Summer 2025: NHL Offseason

[kas23]

On 7/24/2025 at 8:34 PM, Flashsabre said:

I mean how much blowback has Anaheim gotten about hiring Quenville?

Quenville certainly knew about what was happening (and didn’t do anything), but he wasn’t the person accused of the act. This isn’t to say Q is a great guy; I wouldn’t want him to run the Sabres. I just don’t feel comfortable with any of these people, guilty or not. This wasn’t something completely fabricated like the Duke lacrosse players. Something happened that night, legal or not, that many of us wouldn’t take part in. Pass. 

[Drag0nDan]

22 hours ago, kas23 said:

Quenville certainly knew about what was happening (and didn’t do anything), but he wasn’t the person accused of the act. This isn’t to say Q is a great guy; I wouldn’t want him to run the Sabres. I just don’t feel comfortable with any of these people, guilty or not. This wasn’t something completely fabricated like the Duke lacrosse players. Something happened that night, legal or not, that many of us wouldn’t take part in. Pass. 

Kinda how i felt about araiza with the bills tbh.  People feel like getting acquitted means you did nothing wrong, or didn't display poor judgement.  

[JP51]

On 7/27/2025 at 12:06 PM, kas23 said:

Quenville certainly knew about what was happening (and didn’t do anything), but he wasn’t the person accused of the act. This isn’t to say Q is a great guy; I wouldn’t want him to run the Sabres. I just don’t feel comfortable with any of these people, guilty or not. This wasn’t something completely fabricated like the Duke lacrosse players. Something happened that night, legal or not, that many of us wouldn’t take part in. Pass. 

Sometimes the tarnish fair or not makes me want to walk away.... for right or wrong... 

[Ducky]

On 7/23/2025 at 6:12 PM, LGR4GM said:

Where do you play Roslovic?

Rosie needs to learn that there are 2 sides to the red line.

[LGR4GM]

39 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Rosie needs to learn that there are 2 sides to the red line.

Seems to be the antithesis of what the Sabres have been trying to add to the forward group then. 

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Seems to be the antithesis of what the Sabres have been trying to add to the forward group then. 

If you had the choice between Rust and Rosov, which player would you prefer if the cost was equal? 

[Taro T]

18 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you had the choice between Rust and Rosov, which player would you prefer if the cost was equal? 

Darn good Q.  Issue is, the acquisition cost won't be the same.  Roslovic is a UFA and Rust would necessitate something going back to the Pens.

And at current costs, issue really comes down to how one feels about the current leadership in the room.  If you feel strongly the team needs another veteran voice that has been THERE, the choice goes to Rust.  

If you're looking for a guy that could be part of the solution for the longer term, the choice is Roslovic.

[Pimlach]

36 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you had the choice between Rust and Rosov, which player would you prefer if the cost was equal? 

Rust, but it has to be 2 years or less.  

[That Aud Smell]

This USA Today story about how the Dallas Stars control (and apparently profit from?) youth hockey in North Texas is frickin' wild.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2025/08/01/nhl-dallas-stars-texas-youth-hockey-monopoly/84289184007/

[That Aud Smell]

And it's a long read! I didn't get through even half of it, I think.

[SabreFinn]

1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:

This USA Today story about how the Dallas Stars control (and apparently profit from?) youth hockey in North Texas is frickin' wild.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2025/08/01/nhl-dallas-stars-texas-youth-hockey-monopoly/84289184007/

"The model för all non-traditional NHL markets". It really was wild. Interesting read. Thanks.

[Taro T]

8 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

This USA Today story about how the Dallas Stars control (and apparently profit from?) youth hockey in North Texas is frickin' wild.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2025/08/01/nhl-dallas-stars-texas-youth-hockey-monopoly/84289184007/

A lot of the allegations do seem rather unsavory.  But one that they made a huge deal over is essentially a fact of life for youth hockey.  If you want to play in a tournament, you WILL have X% of your team stay in the approved hotels which do kickback to the tournament host organization.  

Not saying it's right.  Just sayin' it is what it is and it goes on in rink rich regions like WNY/CNY as just as much as it does in central Texas.

While it may not seem right, it does bring significant money into many organizations that are 501(c)7's (or is it 501(c)6's?) and really does help keep costs down for those organizations.  USA Today makes it seem that the Stars do not use those monies to help defray costs for their participants and maybe they are correct about that.  And if that's the case, that is wrong.  But all the local organizations in upstate NY run their own tourneys and everybody knows that part of their organization's funding comes from those hotel arrangements.  (And you have to play in your own organization's tourney to get more teams involved (even though obviously there is no travel / hotel stays involved in that) and everybody knows you'll stay in the hotels that are tied in with the host organizations for other tourneys when you choose to play in them.)

[Flashsabre]

Don’t tell Kevyn this😛

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

Don’t tell Kevyn this😛

I just don't think that KA has the ability to be bold enough and strategic enough to make the necessary moves to change the dynamic in this fluttering franchise. The irony is that the GM (maybe forced to) brought on Jarmo as a senior advisor who is better suited to make the necessary changes. 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

I just don't think that KA has the ability to be bold enough and strategic enough to make the necessary moves to change the dynamic in this fluttering franchise. The irony is that the GM (maybe forced to) brought on Jarmo as a senior advisor who is better suited to make the necessary changes. 

Well ya, Adams moment to begin changing the franchise was when he started and he tore it down by trading the big 3 away. Problem is he started a rebuild basically following the same methods and plans. Why? Well, because I think Pegula is our actual GM and KA just does the grunt work, but in terms of all the big hockey decisions and the direction, that's all Terry. and Terry can't admit his ideas are just plain wrong. 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Well ya, Adams moment to begin changing the franchise was when he started and he tore it down by trading the big 3 away. Problem is he started a rebuild basically following the same methods and plans. Why? Well, because I think Pegula is our actual GM and KA just does the grunt work, but in terms of all the big hockey decisions and the direction, that's all Terry. and Terry can't admit his ideas are just plain wrong. 

I’ve said this for a long time that the owner is the primary source of the degrading of this franchise. The organization is structured the way he wants it to be structured and he has also made the major staffing hires. In addition, he has established the financial parameters/restrictions that the staff has to work within.

As you point out, even after making debilitating blunders during his ownership tenure he has had more than enough time and opportunities to get this lost franchise back on track. 
 

He’s a stubborn rich fellow who doesn’t have the self-awareness to know what he doesn’t know. I haven’t been an advocate of making blockbuster deals that strip away a lot of our young talent this offseason. However, a little more activity by our GM this would have been beneficial.
 

The lack of urgency is troubling. When you are in a race and are ambling along while your competitors are running hard, you will continue to be a back of the pack competitor.

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[PerreaultForever]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

I’ve said this for a long time that the owner is the primary source of the degrading of this franchise. The organization is structured the way he wants it to be structured and he has also made the major staffing hires. In addition, he has established the financial parameters/restrictions that the staff has to work within.

As you point out, even after making debilitating blunders during his ownership tenure he has had more than enough time and opportunities to get this lost franchise back on track. 
 

He’s a stubborn rich fellow who doesn’t have the self-awareness to know what he doesn’t know. I haven’t been an advocate of making blockbuster deals that strip away a lot of our young talent this offseason. However, a little more activity by our GM this would have been beneficial.
 

The lack of urgency is troubling. When you are in a race and are ambling along while your competitors are running hard, you will continue to be a back of the pack competitor.

Biggest problem I have with their plan and the pace they operate on is that they forever get caught in a cycle of people wanting out as they reach their limit with the most recent plateau. I firmly believe Dahlin is at his breaking point and if this season goes badly (which it most likely will with what they did and didn't do) he's the next one who will want out. and so it will repeat yet again.