Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft

[CTJoe]

38 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

You are assuming. It is not a bad thing. But, think of it this way. Could a defensive tandem of Dahlin and Byram handle a cup final against Florida? Let me help you here..... NOT A CHANCE!! A team's goal is not to just make a playoffs, it is to win the cup. I have zero problem with him staying but you are also losing your biggest chip to bring in a top 6 forward (Not that i think KA is going to do that anyways). If he stays i am good with that. Our defense is definitely better with him i believe. The question is....... is making the goaltending and defense better gets this team to the playoffs? I have no faith in KA making the offensive and PP side better. 

If we're playing Fla it's in conference finals = good problem to have - one step at a time.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

30 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 Who do you think you can get for Byram in trade? I'm just curious because everyone talks about getting that magical top 6 player for him. Maybe, just maybe, no one at that level has been offered yet.

Or wants to come here...LOL DO not get me wrong. I am not saying give him away for nothing and to be honest i think KA covets our cupboard too much. There was people out there to get but KA is very stingy at the wrong times. 

[Archie Lee]

11 hours ago, shrader said:

So are we upset now because he passed on a deal that we wouldn't want to see him make?

Yeah. This is what happens when you are as bad as the Sabres though. Even the things just considered are reason to question Adams’s competence. 

Also, one of the underrated negative consequences of always drafting in the top 10, is that those picks are valued higher than the players who are available in trade. Rust for 25th OA and nobody blinks an eye. Rust for 9th and ooff. 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Or wants to come here...LOL DO not get me wrong. I am not saying give him away for nothing and to be honest i think KA covets our cupboard too much. There was people out there to get but KA is very stingy at the wrong times. 

Really? Who said that after the JJ trade? 

[shrader]

26 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

Yeah. This is what happens when you are as bad as the Sabres though. Even the things just considered are reason to question Adams’s competence. 

Also, one of the underrated negative consequences of always drafting in the top 10, is that those picks are valued higher than the players who are available in trade. Rust for 25th OA and nobody blinks an eye. Rust for 9th and ooff. 

This whole thing is absolutely crazy.  going to be a never ending list of things that were considered but wound up not happening. This is the internet and the 24/7 news cycle driving us to the point of insanity. 

[CallawaySabres]

They CANNOT trade Bryam. Their offense is going to take a step back and they have to rely on defense to try and win games. 

[inkman]

1 minute ago, CallawaySabres said:

They CANNOT trade Bryam. Their offense is going to take a step back and they have to rely on defense to try and win games. 

The thinking is the return fo Bo would be that perceived void of offense.

[CallawaySabres]

55 minutes ago, inkman said:

The thinking is the return fo Bo would be that perceived void of offense.

Yes but I have ZERO faith that we are getting back a LEGITIMATE top 6 guy for Bo

[Thorny]

14 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:

Yes but I have ZERO faith that we are getting back a LEGITIMATE top 6 guy for Bo

Squint and you can see it top 6, most likely 

but I’ll happily be wrong 

[CallawaySabres]

Darren Dreger

@DarrenDreger

Things are percolating around Sabres Dman Bowen Byram. Trade conversations are happening with Calgary, Vegas, LA, St Louis among those interested. Also hearing an offer sheet on Byram is being contemplated.

 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, CallawaySabres said:

They CANNOT trade Bryam. Their offense is going to take a step back and they have to rely on defense to try and win games. 

I'd much rather we trade him than lose him to an offer sheet and stuck with a bunch of useless draft picks. 

[Trettioåtta]

I assume we'll just trade him one-for-one for Rust

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:

Darren Dreger

@DarrenDreger

Things are percolating around Sabres Dman Bowen Byram. Trade conversations are happening with Calgary, Vegas, LA, St Louis among those interested. Also hearing an offer sheet on Byram is being contemplated.

 

 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Sounds like something Calgary would do....cuz could of sworn that did it before...

Edited 6 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Does the new CBA lower the age/experience for UFA status?  If it does, then yes, Byram will be eligible to be a UFA next year.  But if it doesn't, he has 2 years to wait to be a UFA.

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Does the new CBA lower the age/experience for UFA status?  If it does, then yes, Byram will be eligible to be a UFA next year.  But if it doesn't, he has 2 years to wait to be a UFA.

Good question.

[krakensabr56390]

I mean is the offer sheet really that much of a threat? The reality is if the Saber sign him it’s not going to be for more than two years anyways so how does it hurt them? except for not getting anything back for him that’s not a draft pick… But if somebody dumb sign, same like Calgary or Philadelphia then that’s an unprotected pick that could be a lottery pick.

that would be pretty dumb on both of their ends too

[LGR4GM]

Something else to think about, an offer sheet also puts pressure on a team like St Louis who cannot also offer a sheet. It doesn't just pressure Buffalo, it pressures other trade partners. Also Byram might be better off not signing such a sheet. 

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Good question.

Can't find a summary of the changes to the CBA that mentions length of service - neither it staying the same nor getting shortened a year.

They're reducing the maximum length of contracts by 1 year, but no data regarding when players become eligible for FA.

[dudacek]

4 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Does the new CBA lower the age/experience for UFA status?  If it does, then yes, Byram will be eligible to be a UFA next year.  But if it doesn't, he has 2 years to wait to be a UFA.

I’ve seen nothing about this in my readings about the deal.

One would think it would have been a lead item in reporting as a huge win for the union.

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Something else to think about, an offer sheet also puts pressure on a team like St Louis who cannot also offer a sheet. It doesn't just pressure Buffalo, it pressures other trade partners. Also Byram might be better off not signing such a sheet. 

See, now that’s something a smart GM would do.

We don’t have one of those, but maybe Jarmo is earning his money?

[CallawaySabres]

I hope someone does offer sheet him and we match. We just have to pray that goaltending takes a big step in the right direction. It would then be another year of HOPING players get better, instead of getting better players. I guess I did not expect anything else.

[Brawndo]

Byram is two years from UFA

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Can't find a summary of the changes to the CBA that mentions length of service - neither it staying the same nor getting shortened a year.

They're reducing the maximum length of contracts by 1 year, but no data regarding when players become eligible for FA.

And I feel like that would be such a huge change we would have heard it reported. We are talking age 26 or 6 accrued seasons to UFA status which is big for hockey. 

Also Puckpedia still lists his UFA status as 2027. 

[shrader]

5 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Can't find a summary of the changes to the CBA that mentions length of service - neither it staying the same nor getting shortened a year.

They're reducing the maximum length of contracts by 1 year, but no data regarding when players become eligible for FA.

I feel like the cap sites would be on top of that change if it was happening.

[GoPuckYourself]

1 hour ago, CallawaySabres said:

They CANNOT trade Bryam. Their offense is going to take a step back and they have to rely on defense to try and win games. 

Looks at our defense.