Time to trade Peterka

[Rasmus_]

5 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

I've mentioned Kesselring on my short list, there's also talk that the Mammoth want to move on from Matias Maccelli too. I wouldn't mind grabbing both for a prospect or 9OA and Byram.  I'd also curious what Mercer cost from the Devils as to me he's a guy I wouldn't mind at 2C if elected to put Norris on the top line.  JJP to me is a hard to lose guy as he's clearly a top end talent and unless we get a 50 game starting goalie for him or package him for a better Forward it makes little sense to move on from him. 

I want nothing to do with Maccelli.  He does more of what we don't need which is be a passive all skill, no defensive player.  We have enough of that.  

[Mr. Allen]

35 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2025/06/nhl-rumors-sabres-islanders-considering.html

“Seravalli suggests that buying out Mattias Samuelsson (yet another left-shot D), with his five more years at $4.285 million, would help free up some cap space (and the logjam on the blueline). He even posits that Buffalo could then go on to "trade one of Power or Dahlin” 

Um.  No thanks on trading Dahlin.  

[The Jokeman]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

“Seravalli suggests that buying out Mattias Samuelsson (yet another left-shot D), with his five more years at $4.285 million, would help free up some cap space (and the logjam on the blueline). He even posits that Buffalo could then go on to "trade one of Power or Dahlin” 

Um.  No thanks on trading Dahlin.  

If Dahlin is traded I'm done holding onto my fan card. He's arguably the best player on the roster with Tage.

[dudacek]

Not sure I trust Seravalli, especially when it comes to JJ Peterka, but he reported this morning that he believes one of the teams with significant interest in Peterka is Chicago, but their overture has stalled.

“They have let Buffalo know they’ve been willing to talk about #3 and it hasn’t really gone anywhere.”

He says the Sabres have told teams they need roster players back; they are looking for current help.

Edited 21 hours ago by dudacek

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2025/06/nhl-rumors-sabres-islanders-considering.html

My big issue with acquiring Dobson is that he is going to get paid around $10 million per year based on having a 70 point season where he played a role he won’t play here. Dahlin is going to play PP1. I can maybe squint hard enough for it to make sense if we traded both Byram and Power. I don’t really see the point of acquiring a R-shot version of Power if we are keeping Power. 

[The Jokeman]

6 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Not sure I trust Seravalli, especially when it comes to JJ Peterka, but he reported this morning that he believes one of the teams with significant interest in Peterka is Chicago, but their overture has stalled.

“They have let Buffalo know they’ve been willing to talk about #3 and it hasn’t really gone anywhere.”

He says the Sabres have told teams they need roster players back; they are looking for current help.

If we move Peterka to Chicago I want Sam Rinzel and Teuvo Teräväinen at the very least. Maybe also a swap of 3OA and 9OA.

 

[inkman]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

Not sure I trust Seravalli, especially when it comes to JJ Peterka, but he reported this morning that he believes one of the teams with significant interest in Peterka is Chicago, but their overture has stalled.

“They have let Buffalo know they’ve been willing to talk about #3 and it hasn’t really gone anywhere.”

He says the Sabres have told teams they need roster players back; they are looking for current help.

[PerreaultForever]

If they offer the 3rd for Peterka you take it and then you flip that 3rd for Dobson or somebody we need. Flip the 3rd and the 9th if needed. Can't see nobody wanting that 3rd pick which could be a Frondell or Misa. 

Or keep the pick and flip Norris. other options. We have so many young assets this can't be that hard. There are only 2 teams at this point who have done absolutely nothing and that's us and the Leafs. It's ridiculous. 

[dudacek]

19 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

If they offer the 3rd for Peterka you take it and then you flip that 3rd for Dobson or somebody we need. Flip the 3rd and the 9th if needed. Can't see nobody wanting that 3rd pick which could be a Frondell or Misa. 

Or keep the pick and flip Norris. other options. We have so many young assets this can't be that hard. There are only 2 teams at this point who have done absolutely nothing and that's us and the Leafs. It's ridiculous. 

Trading Peterka for 3 and 3 for Dobson makes some sense to me. The Isles would get Hagens and Schaefer, which would be a home run for the fan base.

Not sure what you mean by “only 2 teams”.

Philly, Dallas, Anaheim, Rangers, Winnipeg, Seattle…what have I missed?

[elijah]

55 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Philly, Dallas, Anaheim, Rangers, Winnipeg, Seattle

Philly traded for Zegras

Dallas resigned Duchene and traded Marchment 

Anaheim traded Zegras and traded for Kreider

Seattle traded for Marchment

Rangers traded Kreider

[dudacek]

31 minutes ago, elijah said:

Philly traded for Zegras

Dallas resigned Duchene and traded Marchment 

Anaheim traded Zegras and traded for Kreider

Seattle traded for Marchment

Rangers traded Kreider

I know, I was listing the ones I knew about and wondering what the other 20 odd teams had done.

[DarthEbriate]

All futures all the time. Never win now.

Peterka + nothing extra to Chicago for 2025 3OA, RHD Rinzel, and the unprotected 2026 CHI 1st.

Be silly. If they want JJP, they can give him a four-1st offer sheet or they trade only three assets. Sheevyn has never intentionally tanked, but now is his chance. You only get... from 6 to 18 years to be an NHL GM your first time around. Have fun with it.

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

Trading Peterka for 3 and 3 for Dobson makes some sense to me. The Isles would get Hagens and Schaefer, which would be a home run for the fan base.

Not sure what you mean by “only 2 teams”.

Philly, Dallas, Anaheim, Rangers, Winnipeg, Seattle…what have I missed?

I read that on twitter. It included minor moves, signing people and coaches etc. I suppose you could say hiring Jarmo was doing something if you want to get technical. 

[Mr. Allen]

7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

If they offer the 3rd for Peterka you take it and then you flip that 3rd for Dobson or somebody we need. Flip the 3rd and the 9th if needed. Can't see nobody wanting that 3rd pick which could be a Frondell or Misa. 

Or keep the pick and flip Norris. other options. We have so many young assets this can't be that hard. There are only 2 teams at this point who have done absolutely nothing and that's us and the Leafs. It's ridiculous. 

If Misa fell to 3, then you take him and run.  

[Scottysabres]

8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

If they offer the 3rd for Peterka you take it and then you flip that 3rd for Dobson or somebody we need. Flip the 3rd and the 9th if needed. Can't see nobody wanting that 3rd pick which could be a Frondell or Misa. 

Or keep the pick and flip Norris. other options. We have so many young assets this can't be that hard. There are only 2 teams at this point who have done absolutely nothing and that's us and the Leafs. It's ridiculous. 

Adams is moving at his normal pace, why this seems ridiculous is baffling. He will get around to a move sometime in early August, 2027, after his 5 yr extension is well entrenched.

[LGR4GM]

47 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

Adams is moving at his normal pace, why this seems ridiculous is baffling. He will get around to a move sometime in early August, 2027, after his 5 yr extension is well entrenched.

Not to defend Adams but most teams haven't made moves yet and just like the trade deadline, things will ramp up as we close on the draft and then as we close on July 1. Marchment would have been an interesting addition but nothing else has moved that I would want. 

If we make no move before the draft and then nothing before July 1, yea Adams totally failed this offseason.

The next 6 days will tell the tale. 

[steveoath]

FWIW Andrew Peters has claimed his source tells him Peterka doesn’t want to move. He wants to be “the guy”. 

[JP51]

Another not to defend Adams.. but I also think that he probably is actively trying to acquire a player in a Hockey trade to make the team better... I suspect he is encountering situations where NMCs are getting in the way... and those vet players that would help the team are limited because they just wont come here... or the younger vet players are at the end of their contracts and Adams is not convinced he can re-sign them... thus they become rentals... 

I am fine trading anyone as long as we get the best player in the trade... I think that is likely proving to be difficult... So, the only way Adams gets a trade of equal value is if he gets the lesser player in the trade and picks or prospects... I don't think that this strategy that we have been employing for years now is an accident... I think it is a result... a result of the brand being so badly damaged you simply cannot get talent to come here unless it is picks or prospects...  essentially Adams and Pegula's destruction of any reputation and competence is their own personal jail cell to improvement... and Pegula's refusal to acknowledge the need to repair same has thrown away the key... until this changes... nothing changes...  

I suspect their will be trades... I suspect that we will be giving up the best player in the trade and having the compensation equalized with pics and prospects...  or the player we are getting has availability issues, or is hurt etc... which is the same thing we have been seeing year after year because of the above...  we will lose our sh*t and watch the player go on to great success with another team and remember when he played for us...  Sorry to be so down... but I am just not thinking that needle moving help is on the way... 

 

[Carmel Corn]

14 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Another not to defend Adams.. but I also think that he probably is actively trying to acquire a player in a Hockey trade to make the team better... I suspect he is encountering situations where NMCs are getting in the way... and those vet players that would help the team are limited because they just wont come here... or the younger vet players are at the end of their contracts and Adams is not convinced he can re-sign them... thus they become rentals... 

I am fine trading anyone as long as we get the best player in the trade... I think that is likely proving to be difficult... So, the only way Adams gets a trade of equal value is if he gets the lesser player in the trade and picks or prospects... I don't think that this strategy that we have been employing for years now is an accident... I think it is a result... a result of the brand being so badly damaged you simply cannot get talent to come here unless it is picks or prospects...  essentially Adams and Pegula's destruction of any reputation and competence is their own personal jail cell to improvement... and Pegula's refusal to acknowledge the need to repair same has thrown away the key... until this changes... nothing changes...  

I suspect their will be trades... I suspect that we will be giving up the best player in the trade and having the compensation equalized with pics and prospects...  or the player we are getting has availability issues, or is hurt etc... which is the same thing we have been seeing year after year because of the above...  we will lose our sh*t and watch the player go on to great success with another team and remember when he played for us...  Sorry to be so down... but I am just not thinking that needle moving help is on the way... 

 

Perhaps, but my thing is not necessarily getting the “Best” player in a trade, but rather the “Right” player.  IMHO - this team still needs different types of players (ex. Stay at home defender, tougher forwards who have some offensive skill who will have teammates backs, etc.). These aren’t necessarily “Best” players from a talent standpoint, but could fill important needs and not have NMC’s.

[Mr. Allen]

29 minutes ago, steveoath said:

FWIW Andrew Peters has claimed his source tells him Peterka doesn’t want to move. He wants to be “the guy”. 

I don’t want to trade him unless a team heavily overpays. 

[thewookie1]

https://puckgm.puckpedia.com/rosters/706244

 

The one scenario I'd go with involving drafting a guy with an acquired pick

[Archie Lee]

38 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Another not to defend Adams.. but I also think that he probably is actively trying to acquire a player in a Hockey trade to make the team better... I suspect he is encountering situations where NMCs are getting in the way... and those vet players that would help the team are limited because they just wont come here... or the younger vet players are at the end of their contracts and Adams is not convinced he can re-sign them... thus they become rentals... 

I am fine trading anyone as long as we get the best player in the trade... I think that is likely proving to be difficult... So, the only way Adams gets a trade of equal value is if he gets the lesser player in the trade and picks or prospects... I don't think that this strategy that we have been employing for years now is an accident... I think it is a result... a result of the brand being so badly damaged you simply cannot get talent to come here unless it is picks or prospects...  essentially Adams and Pegula's destruction of any reputation and competence is their own personal jail cell to improvement... and Pegula's refusal to acknowledge the need to repair same has thrown away the key... until this changes... nothing changes...  

I suspect their will be trades... I suspect that we will be giving up the best player in the trade and having the compensation equalized with pics and prospects...  or the player we are getting has availability issues, or is hurt etc... which is the same thing we have been seeing year after year because of the above...  we will lose our sh*t and watch the player go on to great success with another team and remember when he played for us...  Sorry to be so down... but I am just not thinking that needle moving help is on the way... 

 

I think you are right and it is unlikely we get "the best player in the deal". I mean, Byram and Peterka are near the top of pretty much any published "trade board".  There is one player whose name has frequently come up as possibly available, who I would say is better than Peterka or Byram, and that's Jason Robertson.  Some people would put Dobson in there, and I wouldn't strenuously argue against it, but I'm not fully convinced on that one. How can we get the better player in a deal, when we are the team that is apparently trading two potential star players, aged 24 and 23, that 1/2 of the league covets? Peterka and Byram are almost certainly going to be "the better player in the deal".

I recognize that some folks may be sick of rants about how bad of a GM Kevyn Adams is. But, it really is impossible to overstate how ridiculous of a situation the Sabres are in. 14 years out of the playoffs and 4.5 years into a rebuild being run by a 1st time GM. Back to back years of regression during this rebuild with mountains of unused cap space. The GM's stated primary reasons for not using the cap space is that he did not want to pay the high draft/prospect cost of acquisition, and he did not want to create a scenario where he could not extend his up and coming players due to not having sufficient future cap space. And, here we are, with a 24 year old and a 23 year old who much of the rest of the league wants, and who may want out of Buffalo, and whose projected salaries at the higher end would put us right at or possibly over the cap, and we never had the benefit of winning before we had to make tough roster/cap decisions. It's incredible...in the worst way.  

[Rasmus_]

11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

If they offer the 3rd for Peterka you take it and then you flip that 3rd for Dobson or somebody we need. Flip the 3rd and the 9th if needed. Can't see nobody wanting that 3rd pick which could be a Frondell or Misa. 

Or keep the pick and flip Norris. other options. We have so many young assets this can't be that hard. There are only 2 teams at this point who have done absolutely nothing and that's us and the Leafs. It's ridiculous. 

If we stay at three after acquiring the pick, you draft Brady Martin.  

[Mr. Allen]

4 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

If we stay at three after acquiring the pick, you draft Brady Martin.  

You’re nuts

[SabreFinn]

10 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

If we stay at three after acquiring the pick, you draft Brady Martin.  

Desnoyers