Matthew Fairburn Latest Article regarding Terry Pegula and Adams

[Pimlach]

2 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Without reading the article, I have a hard time separating the fact that the Bills are the #1, but the Sabres are the team he micromanages. 

It's like how my team at work got transferred in to a different department where the manager looks after 3 different teams. My boss honestly has very little knowledge of what me or my team does, and seemingly only pretends to care. His original team though has his daily attention. All of our department meetings are pretty much solely focused on the topics from that group. He goes to industry conferences and wins awards for that team, while my team does everything on our own.

The old "consolidate under one manager who really doesn't want to expand his scope" routine.  

 

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

"...and finishing his master’s degree online through the University of Phoenix." 

🤷‍♀️

So surprised he isn't more successful

The mofo is in NY and doesn't use Empire State, nope University of Phoenix. 

https://sunyempire.edu/graduate-studies/business-programs/mba-business-management/

 

Edited Monday at 01:52 PM by LGR4GM

[Pimlach]

9 minutes ago, Mango said:

Also, can we talk about the fact that Kevyn Adams got his MBA at the University of Phoenix Online?

Like Terry Pegula has given a bajillion dollars to Penn State and is a focal point in the local community with loads of investments and the very best Adams could muster was The University of Phoenix Online. 

I would expect that like other organizations/companies there was some help from the Sabres in crediting him for this.

What a joke.

From what I read Adams bought his on-line MBA in 2008, way before his Buffalo Sabres  tenure.   He wanted to be a player agent at the time. 

An MBA is not needed to run Hockey Operations.  

[Doohickie]

21 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Jarmo truly feels like our only hope.

[Mango]

9 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Wait - what? Please to explain.

Adams is just a toady for the guy who's the actual problem.

Nah?

A little bit of hypebole and tongue in cheek. Terry is the owner of the team, it is his fault.  But it does sound a little like Fairburn is trying to imply that Adams has had Pegula's ear since very early in both their tenures with the Sabres. 
 

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That’s when Kevyn Adams, then working in player development, first met the new owner and laid the foundation for a relationship that eventually helped him rise to his role as Sabres general manager. He’s held that title for five years. Only nine current NHL general managers have been in their job longer, but the Sabres’ win percentage during his tenure is 25th in the NHL. And Adams doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.

 

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Adams was in that role when Pegula bought the Sabres. Pegula has always had a passion for the development of athletes, and so he and Adams talked in depth about Buffalo’s younger players. Adams’ Stanley Cup ring gave him added cachet with Pegula, and when Adams transitioned to an assistant coach role, he got even more time with Pegula in planes, hotels and rinks on the road.

“It was just a lot of time connecting,” Adams said. “Terry and I always had a good back and forth.”

 

Then when he got fired when they cleared house under Ruff, Terry kept him on at the Harbor Center. 

Remember when we used to hear about Terry's secret meetings early in the drought. That might have actually been Kevyn Adams. Which is forking insane to think about. That Adams has had Pegula's ear for almost all of the the duration of the draught. 

[LGR4GM]

The Sabres fanbase is borderline feral at this point. 

[inkman]

14 minutes ago, Mango said:

Also, can we talk about the fact that Kevyn Adams got his MBA at the University of Phoenix Online?

Like Terry Pegula has given a bajillion dollars to Penn State and is a focal point in the local community with loads of investments and the very best Adams could muster was The University of Phoenix Online. 

I would expect that like other organizations/companies there was some help from the Sabres in crediting him for this.

What a joke.

 

7 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

"...and finishing his master’s degree online through the University of Phoenix." 

🤷‍♀️

So surprised he isn't more successful

A masters degree is not a prerequisite to being an NHL GM. 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

 

A masters degree is not a prerequisite to being an NHL GM. 

That's true. Any degree doesn't mean you're good at the thing you got a degree in. Lots of dumb PhDs and MBAs in the world. 

[Doohickie]

14 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

while my team does everything on our own.

A boss who lets you do your job is what you want.

[Mango]

2 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

A masters degree is not a prerequisite to being an NHL GM. 

 

I don't think anybody thinks it is. Having one from a program that used to advertise at 2am between girls gone wild segments isn't an accomplishment for somebody in the upper levels of a major sports franchise either. 

[inkman]

41 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

“Everything Bills was always more important than everything Sabres,” said one former Pegula employee who worked on the hockey side. “It’s just been helter-skelter for the Sabres ever since he bought the Bills.”

 

29 minutes ago, Thorny said:

As suspected. And the most damning bit

You can’t be shocked that the near Trillion dollar business (the NFL) is prioritized over the fledgling league that is the NHL.  

A business owner has to prioritize. Like most other business owners, he’s going to focus more on the one actually making money. 
 

The Sabres, at best, are a break even team.  The Bills are a multi-billion dollar money printing machine. 

[inkman]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

 

I don't think anybody thinks it is. Having one from a program that used to advertise at 2am between girls gone wild segments isn't an accomplishment for somebody in the upper levels of a major sports franchise either. 

Agreed.  Seems a little foolish to go that route.  Maybe this is more insight into his decision making than his education level.  He could have easily went to a Buffalo school or maybe get hooked up with Penn State though Pegula.  Curious to say the least. 

[Thorny]

8 minutes ago, Mango said:

A little bit of hypebole and tongue in cheek. Terry is the owner of the team, it is his fault.  But it does sound a little like Fairburn is trying to imply that Adams has had Pegula's ear since very early in both their tenures with the Sabres. 
 

 

Then when he got fired when they cleared house under Ruff, Terry kept him on at the Harbor Center. 

Remember when we used to hear about Terry's secret meetings early in the drought. That might have actually been Kevyn Adams. Which is forking insane to think about. That Adams has had Pegula's ear for almost all of the the duration of the draught. 

He is exactly grima wormtongue lol 

[Thorny]

10 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

A masters degree is not a prerequisite to being an NHL GM. 

Neither is an aptitude for being an nhl GM, apparently 

[Pimlach]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

That's true. Any degree doesn't mean you're good at the thing you got a degree in. Lots of dumb PhDs and MBAs in the world. 

I would prefer to say ineffective, but you are not wrong.  

[Thorny]

6 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

You can’t be shocked that the near Trillion dollar business (the NFL) is prioritized over the fledgling league that is the NHL.  

A business owner has to prioritize. Like most other business owners, he’s going to focus more on the one actually making money. 
 

The Sabres, at best, are a break even team.  The Bills are a multi-billion dollar money printing machine. 

I literally said “as suspected”. 

it doesn’t make it right - I’ve been saying it for a year: Terry is absentee. If the calculation that the bills are more important results in the sabres being neglected, which is the case, he shouldn’t be the owner of the Buffalo f*cking sabres 

[Pimlach]

14 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

You can’t be shocked that the near Trillion dollar business (the NFL) is prioritized over the fledgling league that is the NHL.  

A business owner has to prioritize. Like most other business owners, he’s going to focus more on the one actually making money. 
 

The Sabres, at best, are a break even team.  The Bills are a multi-billion dollar money printing machine. 

No doubt playing in NFL circles is much more prestigious, but as the owner another way to look at it is that McD and Beane have everything under control, now go out and find similar talent to run the hockey team.  

Kevin Adams is not close to Brandon Beane (in sports management talent).  Yet Terry has been listening to him for a long time and cant see it.   

Edited Monday at 02:13 PM by Pimlach

[That Aud Smell]

28 minutes ago, Mango said:

Also, can we talk about the fact that Kevyn Adams got his MBA at the University of Phoenix Online?

I legit chortled when I read that.

[Prime Lindy voice]: THAT'S A JOKE.

5 minutes ago, Thorny said:

He is exactly grima wormtongue lol 

I've pushed that trope quite a bit.

Where it founders: Pegula is not some noble king under a spell. And Jarmo isn't Gandalf - coming in to release Pegula from the hex.

[LGR4GM]

Look his MBA isn't important. The fact Pegula decided to promote him with no support and Adams proceeded to build nothing for 5yrs is. It's just an easily avoidable self own because Terry thinks he's the smartest in the room and 14yrs of being wrong hasn't changed his mind. 

[Weave]

Just now, That Aud Smell said:

I legit chortled when I read that.

[Prime Lindy voice]: THAT'S A JOKE.

I've pushed that trope quite a bit.

Where it founders: Pegula is not some noble king under a spell. And Jarmo isn't Gandalf - coming in to release Pegula from the hex.

Being a patsy might be more damaging than being under a spell.

[triumph_communes]

He only gets promoted because he has no spine and lets Terry secretly run the show. We all know that’s what Terry wants.  It ain’t changing til Terry truly steps away. 
 

he can still own the team, but that requires the billionaire to swallow his pride. The bills works because his wife ran that show, by only micromanaging the business side 

Edited Monday at 02:15 PM by triumph_communes

[Pimlach]

2 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

He only gets promoted because he has no spine and lets Terry secretly run the show. We all know that’s what Terry wants.  It ain’t changing til Terry truly steps away. 
 

he can still own the team, but that requires the billionaire to swallow his pride. The bills works because his wife ran that show, by only micromanaging the business side 

Kim has nothing to do with the Bills success.  The Bills are good because they found McDermott through NHL channels and McDermott brought in Beane.  Both of these men are very good at what they do.  That is why the Bills are good.  

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Pimlach said:

Kim has nothing to do with the Bills success.  The Bills are good because they found McDermott through NHL channels and McDermott brought in Beane.  Both of these men are very good at what they do.  That is why the Bills are good.  

The Bills are good because Josh Allen. 

[thewookie1]

Pegula puts his money into the Bills because it prints more money; he personally involves himself in the Sabres because he believes himself to be an asset

[Flashsabre]

I still laugh when I think of Terry flying into Montreal to give his “answer is in the room” speech and Kevyn stands in front of the media and says “Let me tell you what Terry said in the meeting was impressive.”   Just peak cowardly yes man ass kissing.😁