Matthew Fairburn Latest Article regarding Terry Pegula and Adams

[Brawndo]

 

Interesting read

[That Aud Smell]

There it is @PASabreFan:

In a behind-the-scenes video of the Sabres’ trade deadline process, Ruff noted that the team’s culture needed to change. In that video, Pegula is on a conference call multiple times throughout the day, weighing in on decisions. That offered a view into the dynamic between Adams and Pegula, a dynamic that other potential general managers might view as a red flag.

"'Any self-respecting GM who takes that job is going to say, "I have to be able to run this for you,"' said one former NHL executive. 'I know it’s your team and I have to talk to you about things, but I have to be able to build a team and make decisions. If I have to run a simple (Henri) Jokiharju for a fourth by you, what are we doing here?'"

Finished the article.

There's actually not much to it.**

** Meaning: This article is not as deep a dive as I thought it'd be.

Edited Monday at 01:36 PM by That Aud Smell

[Pimlach]

Is creating a "free account" really free or are you obligated to close it or get charged?  

[LGR4GM]

“Everything Bills was always more important than everything Sabres,” said one former Pegula employee who worked on the hockey side. “It’s just been helter-skelter for the Sabres ever since he bought the Bills.”

[SwampD]

5 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

There it is @PASabreFan:

In a behind-the-scenes video of the Sabres’ trade deadline process, Ruff noted that the team’s culture needed to change. In that video, Pegula is on a conference call multiple times throughout the day, weighing in on decisions. That offered a view into the dynamic between Adams and Pegula, a dynamic that other potential general managers might view as a red flag.

"'Any self-respecting GM who takes that job is going to say, "I have to be able to run this for you,"' said one former NHL executive. 'I know it’s your team and I have to talk to you about things, but I have to be able to build a team and make decisions. If I have to run a simple (Henri) Jokiharju for a fourth by you, what are we doing here?'"

Finished the article.

There's actually not much to it.

Totally disagree. That second paragraph is completely infuriating. We’re screwed until TP sells the team.

[LGR4GM]

"After having misguided Stanley Cup hopes the previous fall, Adams embarked on Buffalo’s latest rebuild. One source described the situation in 2021 by saying, “There was no plan.”"

[Flashsabre]

8 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

There it is @PASabreFan:

In a behind-the-scenes video of the Sabres’ trade deadline process, Ruff noted that the team’s culture needed to change. In that video, Pegula is on a conference call multiple times throughout the day, weighing in on decisions. That offered a view into the dynamic between Adams and Pegula, a dynamic that other potential general managers might view as a red flag.

"'Any self-respecting GM who takes that job is going to say, "I have to be able to run this for you,"' said one former NHL executive. 'I know it’s your team and I have to talk to you about things, but I have to be able to build a team and make decisions. If I have to run a simple (Henri) Jokiharju for a fourth by you, what are we doing here?'"

Finished the article.

There's actually not much to it.

If you watch the Blue and Gold draft episode with the Kulich draft. Adams is in the phone the whole time talking to Pegula and telling him every single thing they are thinking and trying to do. It’s pretty cringy to watch.

[LGR4GM]

“Any self-respecting GM who takes that job is going to say, ‘I have to be able to run this for you,’” said one former NHL executive. “I know it’s your team and I have to talk to you about things, but I have to be able to build a team and make decisions. If I have to run a simple (Henri) Jokiharju for a fourth by you, what are we doing here?”

[Flashsabre]

I almost think the only hope now is that Pegula has realized he doesn’t know as much as he thinks and bringing Jarmo in is the start of that.  

[Thorny]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

“Everything Bills was always more important than everything Sabres,” said one former Pegula employee who worked on the hockey side. “It’s just been helter-skelter for the Sabres ever since he bought the Bills.”

As suspected. And the most damning bit

[Pimlach]

14 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

“Everything Bills was always more important than everything Sabres,” said one former Pegula employee who worked on the hockey side. “It’s just been helter-skelter for the Sabres ever since he bought the Bills.”

And it wasn't great before he bought the Bills either.

[oddoublee]

Article was mostly meh. Not a lot new came from it. Mostly reinforcing what most of us know; the bills are #1 and the sabres are a distant second....magnified by terrys insistence on being involved from the ivory tower. 

He's trying to have his cake and eat it too

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

As suspected. And the most damning bit

So, basically everything the Sunshine and Kitten crew has been getting upset at negative posters about for saying, is actually true.

Jarmo truly feels like our only hope.

 

[That Aud Smell]

14 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Totally disagree. That second paragraph is completely infuriating. We’re screwed until TP sells the team.

Disagree with what? Maybe I was imprecise.

I meant: By the time the article ended, I thought the writer was just getting geared up for a deeper dive.

[Pimlach]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

“Any self-respecting GM who takes that job is going to say, ‘I have to be able to run this for you,’” said one former NHL executive. “I know it’s your team and I have to talk to you about things, but I have to be able to build a team and make decisions. If I have to run a simple (Henri) Jokiharju for a fourth by you, what are we doing here?”

This is the simple truth that we have been saying at SabreSpace.  

I can see the benefit of Jarmo reporting to Adams instead of to Terry.  

[That Aud Smell]

One thing this article reminded me of: Terry used to coach his son Michael in youth hockey.

The guy really does think he knows puck.

[Pimlach]

1 minute ago, SwampD said:

So, basically everything the Sunshine and Kitten crew has been getting upset at negative posters about for saying, is actually true.

Jarmo truly feels like our only hope.

 

Are the "negative posters" really negative posters or are they diehards who are just sick and tired of the buffoonery?  

[JohnC]

6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

I almost think the only hope now is that Pegula has realized he doesn’t know as much as he thinks and bringing Jarmo in is the start of that.  

The lack of self-awareness about the owner's own lack of knowledge is absurd. He might not realize how little he knows but everyone else on the outside (and many in the inside of the company) certainly recognizes it. This is hubris and arrogance at a mountainous level. On the positive side, bringing in an experienced outside person to be involved in the operation is a positive step. Pegula's footprint on this flailing franchise is not only obvious but it is at a level that it has stomped on this franchise into oblivion. 

[Mango]

God I hate Adams more than I did before.

Am I the only one that picked up on the vibe that Adams has been somebody whose been getting in the way of good hockey decisions because of Pegula's stupid flat management structure?

I feel like this is Scooby Doo, it's been Adams the whole time!

[That Aud Smell]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

God I hate Adams more than I did before.

Am I the only one that picked up on the vibe that Adams has been somebody whose been getting in the way of good hockey decisions because of Pegula's stupid flat management structure?

I feel like this is Scooby Doo, it's been Adams the whole time!

Wait - what? Please to explain.

Adams is just a toady for the guy who's the actual problem.

Nah?

[French Collection]

Just now, Pimlach said:

I can see the benefit of Jarmo reporting to Adams instead of to Terry.  

His advice will be superior to anything either of them can up with, the key will be if KA values it and TP blesses it.

The power that KA still has can sink another season and send a potential good GM away. Those clowns better be serious about Jarmo, he is not the messiah but is probably the smartest hockey man in the room.

[Pimlach]

43 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

One thing this article reminded me of: Terry used to coach his son Michael in youth hockey.

The guy really does think he knows puck. 

True.   You would think a degreed engineer from Penn State, one that built a huge business, would know that coaching a few years of Olean Youth Hockey is really not knowing hockey.  

Edited Monday at 02:15 PM by Pimlach

[Mango]

Also, can we talk about the fact that Kevyn Adams got his MBA at the University of Phoenix Online?

Like Terry Pegula has given a bajillion dollars to Penn State and is a focal point in the local community with loads of investments and the very best Adams could muster was The University of Phoenix Online. 

I would expect that like other organizations/companies there was some help from the Sabres in crediting him for this.

What a joke.

[JoeSchmoe]

Without reading the article, I have a hard time separating the fact that the Bills are the #1, but the Sabres are the team he micromanages. 

It's like how my team at work got transferred in to a different department where the manager looks after 3 different teams. My boss honestly has very little knowledge of what me or my team does, and seemingly only pretends to care. His original team though has his daily attention. All of our department meetings are pretty much solely focused on the topics from that group. He goes to industry conferences and wins awards for that team, while my team does everything on our own.

[bob_sauve28]

"...and finishing his master’s degree online through the University of Phoenix." 

🤷‍♀️

So surprised he isn't more successful