To all who celebrate: Happy Leafs Elimination Day!

[Hawerchuk]

[Demoted]

5 hours ago, Weave said:

As a Sabres fan old enough to well remember the Sabres going 0 for the 80s in the playoffs, this laugh at the Leafs stuff is no class.  I will swap the Leafs failures of the last decade over the Sabres failures of the last decade every time.

Why are people so weird with this stuff?

[inkman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Sweet.  No Sabres on the list.  

[Jorcus]

Well at least we found out that Justin Bieber is in fact still alive, and Drake gambled away another million bucks.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Demoted said:

Why are people so weird with this stuff?

The part about swapping for the Leafs failures is laughable. The Bills are on the verge of a Super Bowl but some fans act like they are utter failures. Anything short of a title is unacceptable. As someone once admitted here, the Sabres making the playoffs would not change a thing. The point is to always be miserable about something.

[HumanSlinky39]

And what a glorious, oh-so-Leafs elimination it was!

[JoeSchmoe]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

What’s a disgrace is that Toronto fans have the ability to fill up the arena because there are so many unsold seats and seats being sold by the hometown ticket holders. That in itself is a freaking disgrace that opposition fans are more willing to attend than hometown fans. 
 

You want to be mad about the situation? Focus your venom on the obtuse owner with the big boat who has crushed this franchise and fanbase with his foolishness. And it should be noted that his absurd ridiculousness has been going on for a generation.

If you don't live amongst Leafs fans and their media, I can respect how you think we observers are just being petty.

But when you're like me- a Sabres fan in Southern Ontario going back to the days when the Islanders were winning cups, you've seen and heard enough that this day is special. 

It's day when Sabres fans, Habs fans, Bruins fans, and anyone else from the area can come together as one... To celebrate another year of that oft talked about Yonge St parade not happening for another year. 🍻🥂

[Pimlach]

5 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Considering his TOI, I hardly ever hear Marner's name in the playoffs. 

[Thorny]

9 hours ago, JohnC said:

I don't know what you are getting out. My point is simply that being gleeful at another team's failures, when their failures are still miles ahead of your own puny successes, is ridiculous. Pathetic losers who derive satisfaction at snickering at people who failed yet are more successful than the biggest losers in the chortling crowd should show some grace and be silent. You may not be aware of it but you are embarrassing yourself when you do that. (Not singling out anyone but stating my comments in general.) It's like a 300 lb. slob telling a person who is a few pounds overweight that they are fat. The lack of self-awareness is stunning. 

I apologize if I'm coming off as a scold. It's not my intention to be judgmental. But being a Sabre fan under the ownership of a fool owner has resulted in skewing how a lot of people view things. 

It’s because you are missing the point: it’s less about celebrating another team’s failures as it is the leafs failures being positioned to suggest the sabres “actually aren’t that bad”. You get that that’s the play, right? 

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The part about swapping for the Leafs failures is laughable. The Bills are on the verge of a Super Bowl but some fans act like they are utter failures. Anything short of a title is unacceptable. As someone once admitted here, the Sabres making the playoffs would not change a thing. The point is to always be miserable about something.

See

[Thorny]

Relax guys; it’s not that bad. Look, we could be the leafs! 

[LGR4GM]

24 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Relax guys; it’s not that bad. Look, we could be the leafs! 

No one here, impo, thinks that. 

I'd take the Leafs last 14yrs over Buffalo's

[mjd1001]

Matthews is not a bad player dragging the team down, but I think he is their biggest issue.

You simply cannot have one of the highest paid guys (Is he THE highest paid right now) in the league that doesn't do much in the playoffs. A guy who scored at close to (or over) a 50 goal rate/pace for most of his career, scores at barely a 30 goal rate in the playoffs, and just doesn't seem to have any 'extra gear' in the playoffs like other superstars do, or if he has it he doesn't care enough to use it.

Great player, but not so in the playoffs. For what he is getting paid, he needs to be more than a regular season wonder-kid.

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

No one here, impo, thinks that. 

I'd take the Leafs last 14yrs over Buffalo's

I literally quoted a post dude 

Not only does he say it he claims it’s how we ALL feel deep down 

[Dr. Who]

27 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I literally quoted a post dude 

Not only does he say it he claims it’s how we ALL feel deep down 

Well, that's incorrect. Dislike of the Leafs predates Pegula. A lot of it has to do with Leafs' fans, and some of it has to do with the NHL Official Review in Toronto, and the partisan rooting by ex-players and sense of entitlement. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Dr. Who

[Taro T]

19 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I literally quoted a post dude 

Not only does he say it he claims it’s how we ALL feel deep down 

You quoted @PromoTheRobot who's takes don't necessarily reflect the attitudes of the board as a whole.  Just sayin'.

Personally, would take the last 14 years of any squad EXCEPT the Yotes and Seattle.  The Yotes because sneaking into the dance through the Covid play-in (that the Sabres would've qualified for had the league shut down 2 days earlier; & likely would've qualified for if it shut down 1 day later) is in no way shape or form worth the annual will we or won't we lose our team with that answer eventually finally ending up last year being "yup, you lose your team" and Seattle because their non-existance for the 1st 10 or so years of the drought and missing the playoffs in all but 1 of the few remaining years is less desireable than having what we've had for the last 14.

Might take the Sabres plight over that of a handful of others; would have to think about it.  But ottomh, the Yotes and Kraker fan bases are the only ones that haven't had an appreciably better 14 years than the Sabres fans have had.

But that doesn't make watching the Biff Tannens of the league get their comeuppance any better or worse.  They are 2 distinct items and some can view them in that light.

To Biffs everywhere, enjoy your carload of digested oats as I get ready to take another run at that football.  Know I'm gonna kick it THIS time.  For sure.  Well, maybe.  Possibly.

[Thorny]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

You quoted @PromoTheRobot who's takes don't necessarily reflect the attitudes of the board as a whole.  Just sayin'.

Personally, would take the last 14 years of any squad EXCEPT the Yotes and Seattle.  The Yotes because sneaking into the dance through the Covid play-in (that the Sabres would've qualified for had the league shut down 2 days earlier; & likely would've qualified for if it shut down 1 day later) is in no way shape or form worth the annual will we or won't we lose our team with that answer eventually finally ending up last year being "yup, you lose your team" and Seattle because their non-existance for the 1st 10 or so years of the drought and missing the playoffs in all but 1 of the few remaining years is less desireable than having what we've had for the last 14.

Might take the Sabres plight over that of a handful of others; would have to think about it.  But ottomh, the Yotes and Kraker fan bases are the only ones that haven't had an appreciably better 14 years than the Sabres fans have had.

But that doesn't make watching the Biff Tannens of the league get their comeuppance any better or worse.  They are 2 distinct items and some can view them in that light.

To Biffs everywhere, enjoy your carload of digested oats as I get ready to take another run at that football.  Know I'm gonna kick it THIS time.  For sure.  Well, maybe.  Possibly.

lol I never said they reflect the board as a whole, liger’s classifier was “no one” 

6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Well, that's incorrect. Dislike of the Leafs predates Pegula. A lot of it has to do with Leafs' fans, and some of it has to do with the NHL Official Review in Toronto, and the partisan rooting by ex-players and sense of entitlement. 

It’s the idea we’d be “no happier” even if we made the playoffs. An absurd hypothesis given we haven’t even been able to test it in 14 years 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said:

If you don't live amongst Leafs fans and their media, I can respect how you think we observers are just being petty.

But when you're like me- a Sabres fan in Southern Ontario going back to the days when the Islanders were winning cups, you've seen and heard enough that this day is special. 

It's day when Sabres fans, Habs fans, Bruins fans, and anyone else from the area can come together as one... To celebrate another year of that oft talked about Yonge St parade not happening for another year. 🍻🥂

I understand the sentiment you are referring to. My response is not so much about being petty as it is a reflection of a mind-set coming from a person who gets teased as if they are an inferior. No one likes being treated in such a demeaning way. But the ugly truth of the matter is that the Sabre franchise is an inferior franchise relative to the rest of the league. We have an owner who has presided over this franchise for a generation of failure. It's a chaotically and amateurishly managed operation competing against organizations that are professionally managed. 

Neither of us enjoy being ridiculed. However, it shouldn't be surprising that this unserious franchise does get mocked. The scorn that this faltering franchise attracts is well deserved. The best way to respond is to become a serious franchise that is a factor in the league other than being a doormat.   

My ire is targeted to the owner who has debased the franchise and its fading fan base and not outside targets. Don't get angry with them when the problem is within our own house. That's my basic point on my commentary on this topic.

[JohnC]

14 minutes ago, Thorny said:

 

It’s the idea we’d be “no happier” even if we made the playoffs. An absurd hypothesis given we haven’t even been able to test it in 14 years 

Qualifying to make the playoffs might be a minimal achievement for most teams but as a Sabre fan I would be ecstatic. You can't have high expectations until you prove that you can meet lower expectations. When going up on a ladder you take one step at a time. 

[JoeSchmoe]

Another important point.

Peak Leaf fan obnoxiousness came in the 90s and early 00s in those few years they made the conference finals. It was so unbelievably bad. It's only by the grace of Matthews' and Marner's ineptitude that we don't have to go through that again. All that far pre-dates Pegula's ownership.

[Taro T]

6 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Another important point.

Peak Leaf fan obnoxiousness came in the 90s and early 00s in those few years they made the conference finals. It was so unbelievably bad. It's only by the grace of Matthews' and Marner's ineptitude that we don't have to go through that again. All that far pre-dates Pegula's ownership.

Still remember seeing Mike Myers leaping around at the end of an SNL broadcast as the Gilmour led Loafs won a game 7 against St. Louis to get to the conference final against LA.  He didn't seem as ecstatic the next time TO played on a Saturday.  😉