Buffalo Bills 2025 Thread

[Dr. Who]

The roster construction is not good. Beane has missed a lot, and his FA acquistions generally are misses as well. McDermott's scheme is tired and exposed. The WR room is terrible. Josh Allen is now pressing and getting beat up, because there aren't any easy buttons. We win when we don't turn it over at all and the defense gets timely take aways. It's not Sabres' bad, of course, but in the world of sports, what is?

[SabresBillsFan]

Bills ain’t going anywhere until they get a better offensive line and a #1 receiver.

28 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

The roster construction is not good. Beane has missed a lot, and his FA acquistions generally are misses as well. McDermott's scheme is tired and exposed. The WR room is terrible. Josh Allen is now pressing and getting beat up, because there aren't any easy buttons. We win when we don't turn it over at all and the defense gets timely take aways. It's not Sabres' bad, of course, but in the world of sports, what is?

So agree

[Gatorman0519]

40 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

The roster construction is not good. Beane has missed a lot, and his FA acquistions generally are misses as well. McDermott's scheme is tired and exposed. The WR room is terrible. Josh Allen is now pressing and getting beat up, because there aren't any easy buttons. We win when we don't turn it over at all and the defense gets timely take aways. It's not Sabres' bad, of course, but in the world of sports, what is?

I don't see how anyone can consider this team a contender right now. This defense has no chance to stop anybody, and the offense is not a world beater with no weapons outside of Cook and Shakir. 

[Malazan]

The Bills caught a bad case of the Sabres

[SabresBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, Malazan said:

The Bills caught a bad case of the Sabres

The Bills hit a home run with Josh Allen and if we had any other quarterback they would be like the Raiders. 

[Gatorman0519]

20 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

The Bills hit a home run with Josh Allen and if we had any other quarterback they would be like the Raiders. 

In only 6 weeks Vrabal already took the lead in the division with a young team. Embarrassing. Not a good sign. Allen is starting to look like Rivers career 2.0. It might be time to consider moving off this staff before Allen is past his prime. 

[Scottysabres]

We all knew this year was a coin toss. On defense we replaced both safeties with young subpar performers, our LB’s are smaller weight wise but outside of Milano who’s injured often, we don’t have a consistent pass rush and our run stopping is probably bottom 5 in the league. We have no star impact players on D, no one to lead by example on a regular basis.

 Offensively we need impact receivers with speed. And for god sakes get a fullback with size to help in multiple facets of the O game, not the least of which would be blocking schemes.

[SabresBillsFan]

31 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

We all knew this year was a coin toss. On defense we replaced both safeties with young subpar performers, our LB’s are smaller weight wise but outside of Milano who’s injured often, we don’t have a consistent pass rush and our run stopping is probably bottom 5 in the league. We have no star impact players on D, no one to lead by example on a regular basis.

 Offensively we need impact receivers with speed. And for god sakes get a fullback with size to help in multiple facets of the O game, not the least of which would be blocking schemes.

I’ve been saying this forever, they need a Ray Lewis, Takeo Spikes type of leader on defense who isn’t on the down swing of his career aka Von Miller and Nick Bosa. I’m not impressed with Beane. Take Josh Allen off this team and you’re near the bottom of the league. Mediocre offensive line, mediocre defense, no true #1 receiver. They were lucky to beat Baltimore week 1 otherwise they are 3-3.

36 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

We all knew this year was a coin toss. On defense we replaced both safeties with young subpar performers, our LB’s are smaller weight wise but outside of Milano who’s injured often, we don’t have a consistent pass rush and our run stopping is probably bottom 5 in the league. We have no star impact players on D, no one to lead by example on a regular basis.

 Offensively we need impact receivers with speed. And for god sakes get a fullback with size to help in multiple facets of the O game, not the least of which would be blocking schemes.

^ Agree with all of this

[Gatorman0519]

50 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

We all knew this year was a coin toss. On defense we replaced both safeties with young subpar performers, our LB’s are smaller weight wise but outside of Milano who’s injured often, we don’t have a consistent pass rush and our run stopping is probably bottom 5 in the league. We have no star impact players on D, no one to lead by example on a regular basis.

 Offensively we need impact receivers with speed. And for god sakes get a fullback with size to help in multiple facets of the O game, not the least of which would be blocking schemes.

In other words we need a mini rebuild. 

[mjd1001]

6 hours ago, Gatorman0519 said:

In other words we need a mini rebuild. 

Isn't that what was supposed to happen 2 years ago when they took all the 'cap hits'? Wasn't this year supposed to be the first year they were able to have more flexibility, to build the roster without one hand tied behind their back (with regard to the cap?)

I have a feeling you have a top 5 player in Josh Allen, and the rest of the team is average-to-below average. (meaning they would struggle to be .500 with a middle of the road QB).

-They should have lost to the Ravens (they were outplayed most of the game) and apparently they are the only team that can't tackle Derrick Henry and have holes blown through their D-line by the Ravens

-They blew out a terrible Jets team

-They let a pretty bad Dolphins team stick around way too long at home.

-They were outplayed at times and honestly needed a few breaks to beat a bad Saints team at home.

-Lost to the Pats at home

-Last nights loss to the Falcons.

They are not a good team. Even with Josh Allen, they have a 'good' record but don't look all that great.

They need to look at some coaching stuff and make some changes in the bye week, and hope some of the injured guys returning and guys coming off of suspension are real difference makers.

[mjd1001]

7 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Bills ain’t going anywhere until they get a better offensive line and a #1 receiver.

So agree

For the last few years I have thought their O-line is overrated.  We hear from many places it is one of the best in the league. I haven't seen it. 

The analytics say they are good at pass blocking, but what I see is a QB who isn't as mobile as Josh would be sacked at least 2 times per game more than him.  I also see the OL in the run game sometimes open some holes vs bad run defenses who are tired AND playing guys off the line to defend against the pass...but I don't see them doing much at all against any run defense that is above average or is actually trying to stop the run.

[Demoted]

I wish I could see the other years where they lost these games and what people said.

[inkman]

8 hours ago, Gatorman0519 said:

In only 6 weeks Vrabal already took the lead in the division with a young team. Embarrassing. Not a good sign. Allen is starting to look like Rivers career 2.0. It might be time to consider moving off this staff before Allen is past his prime. 

I’ve never seen anyone so eager to anoint someone.  Mike Vrabel is a dolt.  I’ve never seen anyone with a dumber face.  Maye has been ok but they haven’t played anyone challenging defensively.   They’ll come back to Earth. Give em time. 

[Mango]

TBD starting to turn on Pegula. 

If Ter-Bear can't get the Bills across the finish line, his time in Buffalo will get very very ugly. 

[Sabres Fan in NS]

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[Rhyno716]

If Josh Allen doesn't play like Superman and the bend but don't break defense doesn't get timely turnovers the Bills are in real trouble. Its been 5+ years of the same philosophy and they don't ever change anything except for a couple of bodies here and there. Its why the Chiefs always beat them in the playoffs. 

Chris Simms nailed it last season when he said the Bills defense is totally scheme based and they have no game wreckers to take over a game and when a team is ready for them they're in trouble. Example last year's Rams game and any of the Chiefs playoff games. 

Also they have no speed on offense. Why have that when you have a qb who can chuck it 70 yards easily. 

And the lack of a #1 receiver problem that they keep ignoring...

[SabresBillsFan]

46 minutes ago, Rhyno716 said:

If Josh Allen doesn't play like Superman and the bend but don't break defense doesn't get timely turnovers the Bills are in real trouble. Its been 5+ years of the same philosophy and they don't ever change anything except for a couple of bodies here and there. Its why the Chiefs always beat them in the playoffs. 

Chris Simms nailed it last season when he said the Bills defense is totally scheme based and they have no game wreckers to take over a game and when a team is ready for them they're in trouble. Example last year's Rams game and any of the Chiefs playoff games. 

Also they have no speed on offense. Why have that when you have a qb who can chuck it 70 yards easily. 

And the lack of a #1 receiver problem that they keep ignoring...

Yep, I agree

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Rhyno716 said:

If Josh Allen doesn't play like Superman and the bend but don't break defense doesn't get timely turnovers the Bills are in real trouble. Its been 5+ years of the same philosophy and they don't ever change anything except for a couple of bodies here and there. Its why the Chiefs always beat them in the playoffs. 

Chris Simms nailed it last season when he said the Bills defense is totally scheme based and they have no game wreckers to take over a game and when a team is ready for them they're in trouble. Example last year's Rams game and any of the Chiefs playoff games. 

Also they have no speed on offense. Why have that when you have a qb who can chuck it 70 yards easily. 

And the lack of a #1 receiver problem that they keep ignoring...

Remember when Beane went on wgr this very offseason and melted down over a previous segment wondering how they value wr? Entire groups were all like good for Beane! Yea! 

 

[Gatorman0519]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Remember when Beane went on wgr this very offseason and melted down over a previous segment wondering how they value wr? Entire groups were all like good for Beane! Yea! 

 

Right. Beane's drafting has been subpar. Terrible in the early rounds. It is criminal we have no #1 WR. I originally wanted to keep our pick and draft Justin Jefferson for instance. The chiefs have built out their roster partly because of Beane. . 

[LabattBlue]

Here is the issue and I believe I mentioned this before. Anyone wondering if McD or BB should be let go, can forget it.  IMO Pegula has made such a mess of the Sabres that even if he thinks he should fire one or the other, paralysis would set in, and he will do nothing.  
 

Reality…Josh Allen is saving McD & BB year after year, and on occasion when he is not superman, all of a sudden McD & BB don’t look as good. 

[JujuFish]

17 hours ago, SwampD said:

We didn't lose this game because of the defense. 

Our receivers suck. Full stop.

They cannot get open.

The offensive line was also getting dominated for much of the game.

 

And then Cook started cooking in the 3rd quarter, so of course we abandoned him in the 4th.

[JujuFish]

7 hours ago, inkman said:

I’ve never seen anyone so eager to anoint someone.  Mike Vrabel is a dolt.  I’ve never seen anyone with a dumber face.  Maye has been ok but they haven’t played anyone challenging defensively.   They’ll come back to Earth. Give em time. 

Vrabel made his name with a prime Derrick Henry. He's overrated. An average coach who is hyped up as one of the best.

Maye, unfortunately, looks legit.