French Collection Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: He’ll get a close up look at Cozens, Power and Byram in Prague. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 I'd take Tavares at 50% for a most a 3rd; stick it to the Leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 I doubt Tavares and Marner waive for any move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seer775 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 (edited) Drop Skinner. Sign Chandler Stephenson. Sign Tanev. Sign Monahan. Sign Clutterbuck and Joshua. Sign Samsonov. Promote Dahlin to Captain. Resign: UPL (market rate), 2-way (Krebs, Bryson, Joker, Jost, Robinson). Walk: Girgs, Olofsson, Comrie. Trade: Mule. Edited May 12 by seer775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 14 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: I doubt Tavares and Marner waive for any move. I'd guess something has to happen however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 13 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: I doubt Tavares and Marner waive for any move. Marner moving to another team would allow him to sign an eight year extension, that’s the only way I could see him waiving. Tavares who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 I just thought of something genius. Canes can't score. Jeff Skinner only does scoring, and he does it pretty well. Trade Jeff back to the Canes for future considerations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 10 Author Report Share Posted May 10 On 4/22/2024 at 10:01 PM, dudacek said: I find the "Bring back the same roster" thing usually comes with arbitrary rules around what that means. Knowing what those ground rules helps me understand the conversation. It looks like you want to frame it around how many new players will we add this summer who aren't here today. Which is fine, but it doesn't reflect "bring back the entire failed roster" because that roster included Mittelstadt, Okposo, Johnson, Girgensons, Jost, Olofsson, Robinson and Comrie, who all spent at least half the season on that roster. Byram — who was not a significant part of the failed roster — effectively replaced Johnson, but the rest of them still need to be replaced. Rousek and other prospects may take some of their slots, but there are clearly more spots open to add bodies from outside the organization than your ??? would lead one to believe. By the way, I re-read our discussion and I did some math regarding the possible returning roster. I calculated the numbers based on the players who have already moved on (Johnson, Okposo and Mitts plus all the UFAs) The Sabres are potentially bringing back 75% of the man games played, 79% of the goals scored, 83% of the assists and 81% of the points. They are also bringing back 88% of the starts in goal and 90% of the games plays by a defenseman. The forward turnover is primarily all the bottom of the roster players (KO, Z, Robinson, Jost, Murray, Biro and VO). The only exception is Mitts. Those 7 players accounted for 17% of the games played last season, but only 11% of the teams points. To say they won't be missed is an understatement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Thanks for posting. Seravalli with a lot of the right questions and Adams not really dodging with his answers. Our GM says no more waiting; he plans to be good now. Likes his D and his goalies, wants to get harder to play against, may add to his top 6, will be upgrading his bottom 6. Likes his core, expects to be aggressive rounding the team out. Whatever moves he makes or does not make, he made his intentions and expectations pretty clear and we can hold him accountable for the results, or lack thereof. Edited May 10 by dudacek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) Cozens - TT - Tuch (A) Quinn - Monahan (A) - JJP Benson - Stephenson - Joshua Clutterbuck (A) - Jost - Greenway Dahlin (C) - Byram Power - Tanev Joker - Clifton UPL - Samsonov Edited May 11 by seer775 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 19 minutes ago, seer775 said: JJP - TT - Tuch Quinn - Stephenson - Cozens Benson - Jost - Greenway Clutterbuck - Krebs - Maroon Dahlin - Byram Power - OEL Joker - Clifton UPL - Samsonov Stephenson would be an excellent pick up but I leave Cozens at C and have them compete for 2C. Clutterbuck has some of what they need. Sorry but Jost is 13F on a weak team. Maroon has grit but is slower than Okposo. OEL has none of the Panther grit and is a LHD. Samsonov has the Leafs scent on him. Joshua as a UFA would bump Greenway down to the 4th line. Benson, Cozens and Joshua. He can also play C to help Cozens on draws. Tanev is a veteran RHD that is a UFA. He would provide the toughness in a pairing with Clark Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 20 minutes ago, French Collection said: Stephenson would be an excellent pick up but I leave Cozens at C and have them compete for 2C. Clutterbuck has some of what they need. Sorry but Jost is 13F on a weak team. Maroon has grit but is slower than Okposo. OEL has none of the Panther grit and is a LHD. Samsonov has the Leafs scent on him. Joshua as a UFA would bump Greenway down to the 4th line. Benson, Cozens and Joshua. He can also play C to help Cozens on draws. Tanev is a veteran RHD that is a UFA. He would provide the toughness in a pairing with Clark Kent. Cozens doesn't think like a Centre imo. He likes corners, rushes, and playing the front of the net. Playing wing will allow him to focus on scoring. Samsonov is a highly underrated playoff borne goalie. Leafs waived him, then started him in the playoffs. Joshua and Tanev are solid. I'd take either over Maroon/OEL/Greenway. Jost is an upgrade on Krebs / Girgs. Edited May 11 by seer775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, seer775 said: Cozens doesn't think like a Centre imo. He likes corners, rushes, and playing the front of the net. Playing wing will allow him to focus on scoring. Samsonov is a highly underrated playoff borne goalie. Leafs waived him, then started him in the playoffs. Joshua and Tanev are solid. I'd take either over Maroon/OEL/Greenway. Jost is an upgrade on Krebs / Girgs. Cap is the issue here so its a mute point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Cap is the issue here so it’s a moot point. I think there is cap space this year for a few UFAs like Stephenson, Joshua and a gritty F and D. When Peterka, Quinn and Byram are due a raise, decisions need to be made who stays or goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 30 minutes ago, French Collection said: I think there is cap space this year for a few UFAs like Stephenson, Joshua and a gritty F and D. When Peterka, Quinn and Byram are due a raise, decisions need to be made who stays or goes. For a guy or two sure; he’s magically signed 5, Muel is missing and Skinner somehow ceased to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: For a guy or two sure; he’s magically signed 5, Muel is missing and Skinner somehow ceased to be. Muel can be our Mark Stone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, seer775 said: Cozens doesn't think like a Centre imo. He likes corners, rushes, and playing the front of the net. Playing wing will allow him to focus on scoring. Samsonov is a highly underrated playoff borne goalie. Leafs waived him, then started him in the playoffs. Joshua and Tanev are solid. I'd take either over Maroon/OEL/Greenway. Jost is an upgrade on Krebs / Girgs. I totally agree and have said this all year. I think he's better on the wing and I don't think his ice vision is great at center. He seems to see and favour one side and hence only one of his wingers. I don't know if it's a bad habit or he thinks too slow for the pace or it's just lazy but it's what he does. There is hope Ruff can correct it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, thewookie1 said: For a guy or two sure; he’s magically signed 5, Muel is missing and Skinner somehow ceased to be. Jeff gone for future considerations. Mule on IR or waivers. 11 players signed at $60M. $87M - $60M = $27M remaining. UPL, Monahan, and Stephenson get $4M. Tanev and Joshua get $3M. Joker, Samsonov, and Clutterbuck get $2M. Jost gets $1M. 2 Amerks × $1M reserve. Total = $27M. --- Samsonov, Joker, and Jost get a bridge. Everyone else gets a raise plus term. We have a team. Edited May 12 by seer775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 3 hours ago, seer775 said: Jeff gone for future considerations. Mule on IR or waivers. 11 players signed at $60M. $87M - $60M = $27M remaining. UPL, Monahan, and Stephenson get $4M. Tanev and Joshua get $3M. Joker, Samsonov, and Clutterbuck get $2M. Jost gets $1M. 2 Amerks × $1M reserve. Total = $27M. --- Samsonov, Joker, and Jost get a bridge. Everyone else gets a raise plus term. We have a team. I doubt Skinner has any intention on leaving and Muel isn't just getting waived. Joker will get 4 mil approximately regardless based on his previous contract. Stephenson won't take 4mil year for sure Tanev won't take 3 mil for sure I do apologize for bursting your bubble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 Skinner isn’t going anywhere. If he’s as bad as some make out who’s taking him? Buyout for him is not viable this year. Skinner will start the season as a top 6 forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 4 hours ago, steveoath said: Skinner isn’t going anywhere. If he’s as bad as some make out who’s taking him? Buyout for him is not viable this year. Skinner will start the season as a top 6 forward. Highest paid 3rd liner in history who can't produce. Say goodbye to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 Just now, seer775 said: Highest paid 3rd liner in history who can't produce. Say goodbye to the playoffs. Jeff Skinner is something like 5th in the NHL since 2020 in 5v5 goals. Also, saying we should waive Mattias Samuelsson basically makes you lose all credibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer775 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, thewookie1 said: I doubt Skinner has any intention on leaving and Muel isn't just getting waived. Joker will get 4 mil approximately regardless based on his previous contract. Stephenson won't take 4mil year for sure Tanev won't take 3 mil for sure I do apologize for bursting your bubble. There are teams he would play for. Or, buy out his contract. Mule waiver is a no brainer. Joker gets to walk. Replace with Bryson @ 2M. Bump Stephenson and Tanev a mil and drop Jost and Clutterbuck. Replace with Amerks. The GMs job is to find solutions. 24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Jeff Skinner is something like 5th in the NHL since 2020 in 5v5 goals. Also, saying we should waive Mattias Samuelsson basically makes you lose all credibility. Jeff Skinner is a liability anywhere on the ice except directly in front of the net. Explain why we can't waive Mule. Have you guys lost your balls? Edited May 12 by seer775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 1 minute ago, seer775 said: There are teams he would play for. Or, buy out his contract. Mule waiver is a no brainer. Joker gets to walk. Replace with Bryson @ 2M. Bump Stephenson and Tanev a mil and drop Clutterbuck and Jost. Replace with Amerks. The GMs job is to find solutions. Jeff Skinner is a liability anywhere on the ice except directly in front of the net. Explain why we can't waive Mule. Cuz it's a stupid waste of assets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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