SDS Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Rossi is an interesting piece because it trades uncertainty for uncertainty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 9 hours ago, dudacek said: According to the Athletic, Kaprizov is telling the Wild he wants to see a big move for a centre before he’s willing to commit long term. Will that affect Guerin’s offer? Already making roster construction demands after his rookie season? He must really love it in Minnesota. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Minnesota is a team that is consistently in the mix to just make the playoffs. they have a couple of terrible contracts that are holding them back. I hope kaprizov stays there because he is a big star for them but i dislike the demands thing. I dont see them having room on the cap for a true #1 center salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, SDS said: Rossi is an interesting piece because it trades uncertainty for uncertainty. Uncertainty? Nahhhh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rasmus_ Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Uncertainty? Nahhhh We passed on this for Jack Quinn. 🙄 I'm okay with acquiring him as the center of an Eichel trade, with Khustnutdinov would be huge prospect additions. Aside from other pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, TheCerebral1 said: We passed on this for Jack Quinn. 🙄 I'm okay with acquiring him as the center of an Eichel trade, with Khustnutdinov would be huge prospect additions. Aside from other pieces. Yup we passed on him because he's 5'9" and because Quinn had 52 goals. It's why I am extremely skeptical of the draft room and hope that Karmanos and Ventura have more say. That said as always, Jack Quinn will probably still be an NHL player. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Yup we passed on him because he's 5'9" and because Quinn had 52 goals. It's why I am extremely skeptical of the draft room and hope that Karmanos and Ventura have more say. That said as always, Jack Quinn will probably still be an NHL player. My thoughts exactly, they also demoted Nightengale, who was in charge of amateur scouting last year. So, things are "trending up". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, TheCerebral1 said: My thoughts exactly, they also demoted Nightengale, who was in charge of amateur scouting last year. So, things are "trending up". I don't trust Nightingale in the draft room. He's been here too long and they have made too many head shaking picks for me to either trust he knows what he is doing or trust that he's able to persuade ppl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Are we going to do a Calgary thread or did I miss it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Are we going to do a Calgary thread or did I miss it? Next up, followed by San Jose and the Rangers. Not sure after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: I don't trust Nightingale in the draft room. He's been here too long and they have made too many head shaking picks for me to either trust he knows what he is doing or trust that he's able to persuade ppl. Let me introduce you to Kevin Devine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: Next up, followed by San Jose and the Rangers. Not sure after that. Edited July 7, 2021 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: Let me introduce you to Kevin Devine ... yea... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, TheCerebral1 said: We passed on this for Jack Quinn. 🙄 I'm okay with acquiring him as the center of an Eichel trade, with Khustnutdinov would be huge prospect additions. Aside from other pieces. Can we stop bailing on Jack Quinn because of a guy who has never set foot in NHL ice? I get it. The perception is bad and the Sabres never do the right thing but we have no clue. If Quinn is as good as or better than Rossi everyone who ***** on him better get Jack Quinn face tattoos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Hoss said: Can we stop bailing on Jack Quinn because of a guy who has never set foot in NHL ice? I get it. The perception is bad and the Sabres never do the right thing but we have no clue. If Quinn is as good as or better than Rossi everyone who ***** on him better get Jack Quinn face tattoos. Really all depends on Jack Quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Really all depends on Jack Quinn. Quinn, Rossi, impartial judgement, the ides of March. Fingers crossed the premature outrage is misguided and incorrect. For our sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Quinn, Rossi, impartial judgement, the ides of March. Fingers crossed the premature outrage is misguided and incorrect. For our sake. The most likely outcome is Rossi is what Rossi was always going to be, I really good player and probably top line center. Jack Quinn ends up as a 50pt 2 way 2nd line winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The most likely outcome is Rossi is what Rossi was always going to be, I really good player and probably top line center. Jack Quinn ends up as a 50pt 2 way 2nd line winger. Thankfully prospects and their development are a straight line so we can say things like “Rossi is what Rossi was always going to be.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: Thankfully prospects and their development are a straight line so we can say things like “Rossi is what Rossi was always going to be.” Ahh sarcasm Rossi projected at the time of the draft out to a 90 point first line center. Guess we will find out and then can revisit this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Ahh sarcasm Rossi projected at the time of the draft out to a 90 point first line center. Guess we will find out and then can revisit this. If he projected to be a 90 point first line center he would’ve been the runaway first overall pick. I, too, believe Rossi is, was and will be the better prospect. I would’ve preferred him in the draft but I’m not going to center my outrage on the pick until there’s meaningful evidence (which will take several years) because it’s useless and out of our control now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: If he projected to be a 90 point first line center he would’ve been the runaway first overall pick. I, too, believe Rossi is, was and will be the better prospect. I would’ve preferred him in the draft but I’m not going to center my outrage on the pick until there’s meaningful evidence (which will take several years) because it’s useless and out of our control now. Literally no one is outraged except you. No one. I see no outrage here except you over ppl lamenting Rossi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Hoss said: If he projected to be a 90 point first line center he would’ve been the runaway first overall pick. I, too, believe Rossi is, was and will be the better prospect. I would’ve preferred him in the draft but I’m not going to center my outrage on the pick until there’s meaningful evidence (which will take several years) because it’s useless and out of our control now. I think you know that when Liger says “projected out to” that he literally means projects according to a statical analysis system. You know, all the fancy charts and stuff! Edited July 8, 2021 by Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 I think most of the outrage comes from people who thought Rossi was a top 5 pick and Quinn maybe a 10-12. Nothing has happened since to change their minds, except Rossi not being a top 5 pick and Quinn getting picked at 8. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: I think most of the outrage comes from people who thought Rossi was a top 5 pick and Quinn maybe a 10-12. Nothing has happened since to change their minds, except Rossi not being a top 5 pick and Quinn getting picked at 8. I’m not outraged exactly, but yeah, that’s how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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