darksabre Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I know. I know. He's an owner and can do whatever he damn well pleases. Beyond that bit of wisdom, how do we figure this out? The News mentions today that the Sabres will not be commenting further on Norty's role. I think it's a mistake, because now we have this thread and there will be many different takes. If he's going to be an overarching president of both hockey and business operations, say it. If he's just the next Seymour, say it. I think we deserve to know if Scotty is now reporting to a hockey president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I struggle with this as well. We do debate just about everything Sabres, but would this conversation exist to the extent it does if Kim Pegula was not Kim Pegula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I struggle with this as well. We do debate just about everything Sabres, but would this conversation exist to the extent it does if Kim Pegula was not Kim Pegula? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Remember the last time the Bills or Sabres had a president we liked? yeah me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I struggle with this as well. We do debate just about everything Sabres, but would this conversation exist to the extent it does if Kim Pegula was not Kim Pegula? Tom Golisano as president of the Sabres? Absolutely. Meanwhile, let's continue to look for reasons to accuse reasonable people of being sexist. Now, I'll go back to steamrolling Kim Pegula, just for kicks. Also: "giving passes" to women because they're women is sexist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I struggle with this as well. We do debate just about everything Sabres, but would this conversation exist to the extent it does if Kim Pegula was not Kim Pegula? Has this board not excoriated Terry Pegula extensively? If Kim is stepping into a larger role, she'll probably get similar treatment. Provided she has excellent people reporting to her & delegating where appropriate, really have no issue w/ owner Kim Pegula taking the title of Teams President. BUT IF she starts making hockey department decisions other than who will run it; will probably like her as much as Russ Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I struggle with this as well. We do debate just about everything Sabres, but would this conversation exist to the extent it does if Kim Pegula was not Kim Pegula? Unless it was someone who has previously worked in hockey, the substance of the conversation would exist. But the language used would be dramatically different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 Unless it was someone who has previously worked in hockey, the substance of the conversation would exist. But the language used would be dramatically different. As to the language, how so? Is someone saying skirts, boobs and/or go make me a sandwich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 As to the language, how so? Is someone saying skirts, boobs and/or go make me a sandwich? Bucky and Harrington, for starters. I'm not going back through the threads, but there's been some....questionable....stuff here, as well. Men who go into these positions don't face gendered language stereotypes. Former players with zero executive experience get hired for these things all the time. Did anyone tell Joe Sakic to go life another dumb bell upon hiring? Did anyone say Ron Francis should stick to beer league? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 Bucky and Harrington, for starters. I'm not going back through the threads, but there's been some....questionable....stuff here, as well. Men who go into these positions don't face gendered language stereotypes. Former players with zero executive experience get hired for these things all the time. Did anyone tell Joe Sakic to go life another dumb bell upon hiring? Did anyone say Ron Francis should stick to beer league? Nope. Actually, I'm pretty sure we say that all the time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Actually, I'm pretty sure we say that all the time here. Because they've proven to be failures. Nobody said that upon their hiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Unless it was someone who has previously worked in hockey, the substance of the conversation would exist. But the language used would be dramatically different. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Because they've proven to be failures. Nobody said that upon their hiring. I'm not sure this is true. We heard it with Shanahan, Batista and others. We hear it with almost every new unproven hire. I just don't think the differences on who or how we criticize are as dramatic as you think. We're equal opportunity haters here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I'm not sure this is true. We heard it with Shanahan, Batista and others. We hear it with almost every new unproven hire. I just don't think the differences on who or how we criticize are as dramatic as you think. We're equal opportunity haters here. Narrative-hater. Bros before hos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Lol, These threads and you'se guys crack me up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Lol, These threads and you'se guys crack me up... Guys?! Did you say “guys”?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Oh yeah, Norty was a chrome dome, as was Punch (and Roger). No wonder those slow-witted, genetic defects couldn't win it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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