LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) This conversation is now happening in at least 5 threads. Let's try to keep it more dedicated. Something is clearly up with him. Is he injured? Does he care? Does he dislike Rochester/Buffalo? Is he just very young still and learning to be a professional? Should the Sabres stick it out with him? Will he go back to Europe? My personal feeling is a little of a and b. I think he has some minor nagging injury and I think at times he doesn't care. Edited January 16, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) He is young, some young people easily feel they dont fit eventhough they actually do. I think he has issues with himself, his confidence is hurt and he most likely has huge presure on himself looking up to his big brother and how he is performing. Time will tell ofcourse but it does not look promising looking at Rochester that is litterly on fire this season, one would think he also would be. I honestly believe it is his mind that is set on wrong path atm. Edit: This is exactly what happened with Markus Naslund, former captain of Canucks. Finally he was called up to gm who asked wtf he was doing, and he said "Well, its ok i can go home" Respons was basicly, "No way Markus, stop what ur doing and start playing like you know you can" Boom, voila. Ofc its sounds easier said than done but i strongly believe as stated above, that Alex is trying to play like someone else and not him self and it keeps destroying his confidence without knowing whats really going on. Edited January 16, 2018 by MODO Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have no idea what the issue might be. My uninformed guess: He lacks confidence and, as a result, finds his interest and resolve fading. I've resolved to forget about him, to stop counting on him to be an NHLer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 He is young, some young people easily feel they dont fit eventhough they actually do. I think he has issues with himself, his confidence is hurt and he most likely has huge presure on himself looking up to his big brother and how he is performing. Time will tell ofcourse but it does not look promising looking at Rochester that is litterly on fire this season, one would think he also would be. I honestly believe it is his mind that is set on wrong path atm. Edit: This is exactly what happened with Markus Naslund, former captain of Canucks. Finally he was called up to gm who asked wtf he was doing, and he said "Well, its ok i can go home" Respons was basicly, "No way Markus, stop what ur doing and start playing like you know you can" Boom, voila. Ofc its sounds easier said than done but i strongly believe as stated above, that Alex is trying to play like someone else and not him self and it keeps destroying his confidence without knowing whats really going on. I got destroyed in a soccer game. Kid was carded it was a brutal knee to my thigh. Was out for about 3-4 days maybe. Came back to practice and we were doing corner shot drills. I kept shying away from my guy and I kept challenging very gingerly. After about the 4th time of that, the assistant coached grabbed me, pulled me aside and asked what the hell my problem was and if I was going to play scared to get the hell off the field and the team. That was all it took. My battle level went right back to normal and I finished practice strong, had one of my best games the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Think he just isn't fit for the NHL. Trade him while he's young and some other team thinks he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The Alex Nylander Megathread. That'll teach 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'm trying to pretend Nylander doesn't exist. If he contributes in a few years great. I'm not counting on it. It's picks like that that set this franchise back enormously. Even if he was in Roch all year but playing well the hope/anticipation for next season would be back. Right now I have no hope for next year as Casey lord and savior should spend one more year in either NCAA or Roch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) The Alex Nylander Megathread. That'll teach 'em. Would you prefer. The Rochester Americans thread, Trade Speculation thread, Can this franchise be saved thread, Jbot do something thread, and rando other threads to have this one singular conversation of "What is up with Nylander?" The answer is no. Considering you get all grumpy when we don't create more threads you wouldn't think you would not get grumpy when I try to create a thread to capture a sprawling conversation. Edited January 16, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Think he just isn't fit for the NHL. Trade him while he's young and some other team thinks he is +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have no idea what the issue might be. My uninformed guess: He lacks confidence and, as a result, finds his interest and resolve fading. I've resolved to forget about him, to stop counting on him to be an NHLer. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 seems we have two camps, wait and see trade or bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I got destroyed in a soccer game. Kid was carded it was a brutal knee to my thigh. Was out for about 3-4 days maybe. Came back to practice and we were doing corner shot drills. I kept shying away from my guy and I kept challenging very gingerly. After about the 4th time of that, the assistant coached grabbed me, pulled me aside and asked what the hell my problem was and if I was going to play scared to get the hell off the field and the team. That was all it took. My battle level went right back to normal and I finished practice strong, had one of my best games the next day. Yea, exactly what im talking about. I wish this was the case with Alex, but who knows (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yea, exactly what im talking about. I wish this was the case with Alex, but who knows (?) It depends on the person. I responded to that because of what internally drives me. Whatever internally drive Nylander needs to be tapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think Modo nailed it. Nylander strikes me as very tightly wound. Lack of early success, extreme self-pressure, unfamiliar environment, debilitating injury - all before he turns 20 years old. Kid is trapped inside his own head. The Markus Naslund comparison is a great one - similar skill sets. Naslund would also be a great person to tap as a mentor. Nylander is more talented than any Sabre save Jack and Casey. Transforming that talent into a useful hockey player may be Botterill’s biggest test when he talks about player development - so much potential, so far to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) I just don't think his style of play translates into the NHL. And if he's that tightly wound, he's cream cheese in the oven soft, and he'll never make it. Just trade him and let someone else wonder what will never be Edited January 16, 2018 by Jokertecken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The downturn seems to have been at this summer's development camp. The injury suffered there has affected him. I give him one more year before making a drastic move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The downturn seems to have been at this summer's development camp. The injury suffered there has affected him. I give him one more year before making a drastic move. I don't know. He's played at the same level in the AHL both years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I don't know. He's played at the same level in the AHL both years I just hate trading at a low point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 He's 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 He's 19. Which would be an okay excuse if he had looked dominant at the tournament that is specifically for players in his age group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I just hate trading at a low point. It's only going to get lower He's 19. Which would be an okay excuse if he had looked dominant at the tournament that is specifically for players in his age group. And he didn't even dominate. His 5v5 production was absolute garbage, and we heard the same exact complaints from the national media in that tournament as we do from the local media concerning his Rochester play all the time. Where there's smoke there's fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think that there won’t be time to wait and see. He’s going back home aftet he sees his next contract offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Which would be an okay excuse if he had looked dominant at the tournament that is specifically for players in his age group. He wasn’t as good as he was last year, which is a pretty good indication that there is something mental or physical or both hampering him. He was largely dominant at that tourney last year. I’m not a Nylander fan, but given the sunk cost, if we aren’t getting the equivalent of a mid-first back in a trade, it makes more sense to put our efforts into reclaiming his value instead of discarding him at 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 @Matt_Bove Alex Nylander spent at least 15 minutes alone after #Amerks practice ended. Just a few minutes ago Rochester head coach Chris Taylor said Nylander has been okay, but he'd like to see him be a lot better #Sabres @WKBW Don't care, just trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) @Matt_Bove Alex Nylander spent at least 15 minutes alone after #Amerks practice ended. Just a few minutes ago Rochester head coach Chris Taylor said Nylander has been okay, but he'd like to see him be a lot better #Sabres @WKBW Don't care, just trade him No, we are missing something. Something is going on behind the scenes with this kid. I think we should be patient. Edited January 16, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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