dudacek Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) The idea of the tank was to acquire enough good young talent to make the team competitive for 5-10 years. When competitive didn't arrive last year, we engaged in a lot of second guessing. The point of this thread is that players generally are in their prime between the ages of 22-29. Most of the proceeds of the tank have yet to hit that. How good do we look when they do? Three years from now a top six could be: Nylander (22) Eichel (23) Middelstadt (21) Reinhart (24) Okposo (32) O'Reilly (29) Possibly complemented by Baptiste (25) Fasching (25) Asplund (22) Girgensons (27), Larsson (28), Kane (29), Bailey (25), Pu (22), Davidson (21). Our blueline: Ristolainen (26), McCabe (26), Guhle (23) Possibly complemented by Scandella (30), Beaulieu (27), Antipin (27), Borgen (23) In goal Lehner (28), Ullmark (26), Luukkonnen (21) Of course there are trades, free agents and players developing unexpectedly to consider, but how does this group project moving forward? Edited July 20, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The potential projection of that lineup is such that my first instinct is wondering what the catch will be. That top 6 could easily be beyond that of even the Edmonton's and Toronto's of the league. If the young players reach their potential, it will be. I'm hoping, for that reason, a young player like Reinhart or Nylander isn't given up on too soon by the man in charge. Botterill seems to be a very patient man, so my concerns in this area are fading. The D is likely still the relative weak point. But I have more faith it'll be up to snuff when I consider the forward depth that'll help tip the scales. If we don't become, not just a playoff team - but a perennial contender - it'll have to be the result of numerous high-talent players falling well short of expectations. Rose-coloured glasses? Potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 And your not even considering Glotov, Asplund and Pu as backup plans should Nylander be less than motivated... still a concern. Glotov and Asplund seem to have fire in their bellies to play in NHL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 We ain't seen nothing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 At least one will be OK https://twitter.com/sabresfanatics/status/887844011196723201 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 You forgot Baptiste. On paper, yes I believe we definitely have the talent to compete with Toronto and Edmonton in 3 years. The biggest question mark for me is finding that highly elusive top-line LHD to pair with Risto. Our best bet is for one of McCabe, Guhle, or Beaulieu to somehow develop into that kind of player. I'd rather not have to address this via trades, and free agency is very unlikely to help. At least JBot will have 2-3 years to figure this problem out while all of the young forwards are developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) At least one will be OK https://twitter.com/sabresfanatics/status/887844011196723201 I'm crushing. :wub: Edited July 20, 2017 by Doohickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) You forgot Baptiste. On paper, yes I believe we definitely have the talent to compete with Toronto and Edmonton in 3 years. The biggest question mark for me is finding that highly elusive top-line LHD to pair with Risto. Our best bet is for one of McCabe, Guhle, or Beaulieu to somehow develop into that kind of player. I'd rather not have to address this via trades, and free agency is very unlikely to help. At least JBot will have 2-3 years to figure this problem out while all of the young forwards are developing. Baptiste added. Thanks.And it will be interesting to see what Housley will do with the three first-rounders, two second-rounders and Antipin at his disposal on the blueline. Edit: three seconds. I hadn't realized Scandella was also a 2nd round pick. There are 19 1st and 2nd rounders in that lineup I posted up top. Edited July 20, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 It's a finally fun to be a Sabres fan again. We couldn't even have this discussion not two seasons ago because the cupboard was empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 You forgot Baptiste. On paper, yes I believe we definitely have the talent to compete with Toronto and Edmonton in 3 years. The biggest question mark for me is finding that highly elusive top-line LHD to pair with Risto. Our best bet is for one of McCabe, Guhle, or Beaulieu to somehow develop into that kind of player. I'd rather not have to address this via trades, and free agency is very unlikely to help. At least JBot will have 2-3 years to figure this problem out while all of the young forwards are developing. You forgot Scandella, I think he has the best shot at that top lhd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 You forgot Scandella, I think he has the best shot at that top lhd Actually, I deliberately left him out of the top LHD conversation because I see him as more of a known quantity at age 27: that of a solid second-line LHD in this league. This year he will probably be the top LHD and probably won't embarrass himself, but long-term I'd like to see a genuine top-50 NHL defenseman to pair with Risto. McCabe, Guhle, and Beaulieu each have the talent to become one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I've probably always been too optimistic about previous Sabres teams. But with a competent coach and fully healthy Jack I think we've got a legit shot at the playoffs this year. In 2-3 years when you're getting Jack in his prime and adding Mittelstadt, Nylander (whom I'm still big on) and hopefully guys like Guhle and Asplund things could get real fun. Everyone was disappointed with last season. Don't worry, the fun is about to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 It is natural for fans to be overly optimistic about their teams. That top 6 group of forwards is capable of competing for the cup, IMO. Risto is very good and will improve, I think. So, the key is, as it is with any cup winner, the pieces put in place to augment the top talent. Steps have been taken to address the D, but there is still work to be done in overall team improvement. The development of all of the younger players that are slated to fill out the roster ... bottom 6 and the D ... will be critical. Even some slated in the top 6 still have development in order to be legit top 6 (Nylander and the #1 pick in the most recent draft). I am very optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 The kids be fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Still hopeful that one or two of the D in the system besides Ghule surprise us in the next few years. Maybe Budik and Fitzgerald... along with Borgen who seems to moving up the depth chart or one of this years draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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