TrueBlueGED Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Per ESPN, since his return this year, Eichel has as many points as McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 shhhh! DD might hear you and bench him for a giveaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Per ESPN, since his return this year, Eichel has as many points as McDavid. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) I don't understand the how complex the systems are in the NHL, so I have no idea how that can have an impact on a particular players scoring race. So how would Eichel be doing if he were in Matthews place on the Leafs? or in Edmonton? I'm not sure. I do think it is interesting to look at the last 3 NHL drafts (since the Sabres full 'tank' started). They of course finished last in 2 of those 3 years. Look at the Top 2 players taken in those last 3 drafts: Ekblad, Reinhart, McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Laine. Some may make an argument that if you ranked those 6 players in terms of how good they are/how much they have accomplished so far...that the Sabres got the #5 and #6 players of the group. I'm still glad they have them, but I hope Eichel stops being a very good player and becomes a top-5 superstar soon. Your wish is granted! Top scorer in the NHL since 2/4 and per ESPN and TrueBlue, he's tied with McJesus since Jack returned from injury. Edited March 8, 2017 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Per ESPN, since his return this year, Eichel has as many points as McDavid. Still not as good as Matthews http://thehockeywriters.com/buffalo-sabres-underrated-jack-eichel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Still not as good as Matthews http://thehockeywriters.com/buffalo-sabres-underrated-jack-eichel/ Matthews is a wonderful goal scorer and Laine in the next Ovie, but neither is as good at making the players around him better as Jack and McJesus are and long-term I'd rather have the all around star vs Ovie. Also I think Jack is a better goal scorer then McDavid, but McDavid is on another level as a player despite Jack equaling him in scoring since his return. FYI Here are the stats on the big 4 ytd Mattews; 64gms, 31g, 24a, 55pts - .86 pts/gm Eichel; 46gms, 18g, 27a, 45pts -.98pts/gm Laine; 59gms, 32g, 27a, 59pts -1pt/gm McDavid; 65gms, 22g, 52a, 74pts - 1.14pts/gm All 4 are awesome players and worth building a franchise around. Right now I'd rank them 1) McDavid 2) Eichel 3) Laine 4) Matthews One other note: Matthews and Laine are not the typical NHL rookies who jumped from NCAA/CHL to the NHL. Both played in good professional leagues last year, so in many ways, although they are a draft class later then Jack and Connor they aren't really a year behind in their pro development. Laine is actually the youngest of the bunch. He doesn't turn 19 until April. What a monster he is going to be in 3-4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 For Christmas this year, let's all chip in to get yse a new sarcasm detector :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 For Christmas this year, let's all chip in to get yse a new sarcasm detector :P LOL, Sadly some people (toronto media) keep beating that horse. However, it was a Wildcard post, I should have known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Per Mike Kelly Nobody is producing at a higher rate than Jack Eichel, the best transition player in the NHL and perhaps the most valuable to his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 For Christmas this year, let's all chip in to get yse a new sarcasm detector :P Eid is sooner, so I'll just get him a new one then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Per Mike Kelly Nobody is producing at a higher rate than Jack Eichel, the best transition player in the NHL and perhaps the most valuable to his team. Pic/article that went with that: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I pumped the (my) brakes on the talk of Eichel being reminiscent of Mario Lemieux. While I continue to proceed with caution, and KNOW that he will almost certainly never equal the dominance of 66, it's starting to seem like a more plausible comparison to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Nice article. Scott Cullen headlined jack today in his statistically speaking. http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-eichel-is-on-a-tear-1.691055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Points my buddy tried to make, even after reading those stats Best 3 forwards in the league? => Crosby, Ovie, Stamkos Players he'd take over Stamkos? => Crosby, Matthews, McDavid Eichel is years behind Matthews, Laine, and McDavid Eichel is, at best, an All Star Eichel cannot turn this franchise around GMTM had nothing to do with the signing of Kyle Okposo; GM's have little to do with FA ....holy I almost lost my mind :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Is your Buddy a Leafs fan or a member of the Canadian Sports Media? Your friend knows that Stamkos stats have been declining since he broke his arm a few years ago. Does your friend also know that Ovie isn't the best player on his own team? Edited March 8, 2017 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Is your Buddy a Leafs fan? He loves the city of Toronto, but he pretty much gets all of his information and forms his opinions around the national media. :doh: Oh there's more We shouldn't have tanked in 2014. Or if we did, we should have tanked 2014-2016, to get Matthews or Laine, even with the draft lottery changed Reinhart is utter garbage. Players better than him? Pasternak, Larkin, Ehlers Ovie will never hit 50g again Eichel should be a winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I like Pasternak. Wow Reinhart is garbage. Classic. I guess him leading the Canadians to a World Jr title wasn't enough for your friend to earn the kid some love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I like Pasternak. Wow Reinhart is garbage. Classic. I guess him leading the Canadians to a World Jr title wasn't enough for your friend to earn the kid some love. Pretty much. He also thinks Nylander is worthless And here is why +/- needs to die @ByMHarrington 28m28 minutes ago #Sabres Eichel leads NHL in assists (18) and pts (24) since Feb. 1. He's also minus-4, only minus player in top 13 in that time. (1/2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) I bet you friend thinks the French Connection sucked (Movie and line), that Darryl Sittler is the greatest player of all time and it's a conspiracy against the Leafs that they haven't won a Cup since 1967. Edited March 8, 2017 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 We have a new mission for the Sabrespace meetup: find WildCard better friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 No kidding. Leafs Kool-aid must be a dangerous mind altering drug. More dangerous then Beer Goggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 We have a new mission for the Sabrespace meetup: find WildCard better friends. I didn't realize he was friends with Mike Harrington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 We have a new mission for the Sabrespace meetup: find WildCard better friends. I didn't realize he was friends with Mike Harrington I mean, pretty much now that I look back at it :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Mario Lite, I suppose? Which would be AWESOME. Eichel's coach at BU, I think, was the one who talked about the similarity to Mario. And you can see it - Jack gets in the zone, assumes what looks like a wide stance (thanks, perverted Congressman!), sticks his ass out, gets his elbows wide, and no one can touch the puck. It's mesmerizing. Yessir. Reinhart is a good hockey player, who is going to get better. He is not the winger that Jack needs. Reinhart is a centre. Good. But sub-optimal. I agree. But I meant it in reference to the statement that Eichel's numbers would improve with good wingers. As much as Reinhart should be at centre, he's still helping Jack produce, within his current role. More a comment on the help Jack IS getting, rather than about where Sam should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I agree. But I meant it in reference to the statement that Eichel's numbers would improve with good wingers. As much as Reinhart should be at centre, he's still helping Jack produce, within his current role. More a comment on the help Jack IS getting, rather than about where Sam should be. Somewhat related, I continue to be of the mind that part of the reason you want a superduperstar like Eichel at center is so you don't have to invest heavily in the wings. I think the mindset of "we have to get wingers to help Eichel" is a little bit reverse from how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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