That Aud Smell Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Still not seeing how Gilbert's response to an out of town reporter's questions for a travel piece is "courting" or that Brandon had anything to do with it. Well that's just it, innit? Brandon's business plans are proprietary and confidential. Under wraps. How might one get an inkling of what's in the works? Maybe through off the cuff statements like these. Or maybe not. But, anyway - grist for the mill. Put another way: At present, we see those plans indistinctly, as in a mirror. Maybe some day we will see them face to face. At present, we know them only partially. Some day, we will know them more fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 It seems that this is where we have the disconnect ... I don't hate the opposing fans. It's about the "outrage" over the term "We love Leafs fans", attributed to Gilbert in the article and how it would have been preferable for those "outraged" fans for him to use the term, "We hate Leafs fans" as a way for the Sabres to show their "loyalty" to this long suffering fan base. The Sabres have always marketed to Southern Ontario and have always embraced that fan base, regardless of their fan allegiance to the teams they support. It's the right thing to do on EVERY level. Outrage over that is a childish response in my book. I can't fathom how a reasonable adult can hold that position. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Wrapping a turd in a flour tortilla doesn't make it more edible. Wrapping my logic around your argument doesn't magically make it valid. This advances and helps precisely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Wrapping a turd in a flour tortilla doesn't make it more edible. Wrapping my logic around your argument doesn't magically make it valid. So leave the discussion. You clearly have nothing to contribute. I would bet that the people who have created a billion+ dollar industry on a game are glad that many fans have a childish passion for it. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I really don't care what Gilbert said in the article. For me it's not about the article it is what the article represents ... another questionable action taken by the team management and owner that makes me think it is probably not about cup(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Is it interesting? Have you ever been critical of Sabres management? Have you ever been warned? I wonder what percentage of posters here have been critical - even highly critical of the Sabres management in the last 10 years...? If you told me it was close to 100% I would believe it. How many people do you think were warned for doing so? If you told me 2 - I would believe that too. 100,000's posts and I bet that number comes in at 2-3. So, if you find that interesting, well you're an odd duck. What smacks of money making? Do you mean like Pegulaville? I find it interesting that a real opinion, that does no more than provoke thought, is threatened. Call me an odd duck I guess. Id say that response is due to a lack of either desire or ability to critically consider PAs thought. That isnt on PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) I wonder if fans of teams with actual championships discuss this stuff Edited February 2, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I find it interesting that a real opinion, that does no more than provoke thought, is threatened. Call me an odd duck I guess. Id say that response is due to a lack of either desire or ability to critically consider PAs thought. That isnt on PA. I think I just figured out what is really going on here. I wonder if fans of teams with actual championships discuss this stiff I bet the fans of the Canadiens have better stiff(s) ( :P ) to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichunch Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I wonder if fans of teams with actual championships discuss this stiff I just know that if the Carrier Dome started advertising in the Georgetown paper about how much they love Hoyas, riots would break out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I really don't care what Gilbert said in the article. For me it's not about the article it is what the article represents ... another questionable action taken by the team management and owner that makes me think it is probably not about cup(s). Stop being so childish :P I think your concern is valid and reflects PA's. I don't agree with you, but I think you being in a smaller hockey market are probably familiar with the kind of rabid loyalty small teams inspire. I experienced it in college too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I bet the fans of the Canadiens have better stiff(s) ( :P ) to talk about. Wait, I thought we were saying Toronto fans are the ? :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichunch Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think I just figured out what is really going on here. Welcome to the dark side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 So leave the discussion. You clearly have nothing to contribute. I'm done with this merry-go-round anyway. I think SDS makes a valid point about how SS has become the private chat room for a dozen or so posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think you're discounting a lot of what goes into making sports popular. The "purpose" of sports is not a universally defined concept. And it certainly influences how people view fanhood, loyalty, etc. What you see as childish might in fact be childish, but that is based on your definition of the purpose of sports. Give some thought to it. It's important. Give some thought as to where to draw the line, that is what you're really asking. The purpose of sports doesn't have to be clearly delineated and defined in order for the tenets of hospitality and good sportsmanship to apply universally. If "We love Leafs fans" is disloyal, then "We hate Leafs fans" is loyal, right? The idea that there is a segment of the fan base that would actually prefer the Sabres to take that stance is absurd. On every level. And no, sports and being a fan of a team, is not that important in the grand scheme. I'd ask you to give that some thought if I didn't already think you have. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I just know that if the Carrier Dome started advertising in the Georgetown paper about how much they love Hoyas, riots would break out. Honestly, I won't pretend to have read this entire thread, or the article it's even about. All I can say is, yes, it really does bother me when there are a ton of the oppositions fans here. If you're a Sabres fan who lives wherever the hell it is they're talking about, it makes sense to market to that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm done with this merry-go-round anyway. I think SDS makes a valid point about how SS has become the private chat room for a dozen or so posters. Contribute something then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm done with this merry-go-round anyway. I think SDS makes a valid point about how SS has become the private chat room for a dozen or so posters. I guess the question is, who's responsible for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Contribute something then. I was. Quite eloquently, I might add. Honestly, I won't pretend to have read this entire thread, or the article it's even about. All I can say is, yes, it really does bother me when there are a ton of the oppositions fans here. If you're a Sabres fan who lives wherever the hell it is they're talking about, it makes sense to market to that area. So why aren't Sabres fans from wherever filling the building already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 So why aren't Sabres fans from wherever filling the building already? I don't know. Because we suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I just know that if the Carrier Dome started advertising in the Georgetown paper about how much they love Hoyas, riots would break out. Putting aside what kind of pitiful commentary on sports fans that is, nothing about that news article even remotely equates to advertising in an opposing fan base's newspaper. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichunch Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 So why aren't Sabres fans from wherever filling the building already? The product does suck. And now that it isn't improving fast enough, they are looking for butts in seats wherever they can get them. Would you say that's our fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Give some thought as to where to draw the line, that is what you're really asking. The purpose of sports doesn't have to be clearly delineated and defined in order for the tenets of hospitality and good sportsmanship to apply universally. If "We love Leafs fans" is disloyal, then "We hate Leafs fans" is loyal, right? The idea that there is a segment of the fan base that would actually prefer the Sabres to take that stance is absurd. On every level. And no, sports and being a fan of a team, is not that important in the grand scheme. I'd ask you to give that some thought if I didn't already think you have. GO SABRES!!! To the latter, I have given it thought. I think sports is something that should be casual and fun. Others would argue it's their whole lives. That's why I propose we dig deeper. To the first bolded, I'm not sure this is a real thing where sports are concerned. Perhaps we want it to be, but have you been to a Bills game recently? Have you seen parents screaming profanity at a Junior High hockey match? Civility and hospitality are not the norm. To the point that you call absurd, I don't see absurd. I see logic if you take sports fandom and distill it to a tribal level. That's what sports fandom is to many people. Being a sports fan is tribal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichunch Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Putting aside what kind of pitiful commentary on sports fans that is, nothing about that news article even remotely equates to advertising in an opposing fan base's newspaper. GO SABRES!!! Cuse fans would be pissed regardless of where it was written. Just the thought of Georgetown fans being accommodated by the team would make them barf. And was the "pitiful commentary" remark directed towards me or fans in general? If it was me, then how PC can you get? Edited February 2, 2016 by musichunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I wonder if fans of teams with actual championships discuss this stuff oh, man. I think SDS makes a valid point about how SS has become the private chat room for a dozen or so posters. Yikes. Did he say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I was. Quite eloquently, I might add. Your contribution was a dismissal. Hardly eloquent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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