LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think a swap w/ Edmonton will be more about saving face. Still feel McDavid doesn't want to play for Edmonton and the Oilers won't want to deal with that PR nightmare. Murray knows this. Murray has no reason to throw the kitchen sink at Edmonton. Murray has no reason to offer Edmonton anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think a swap w/ Edmonton will be more about saving face. Still feel McDavid doesn't want to play for Edmonton and the Oilers won't want to deal with that PR nightmare. Murray knows this. Murray has no reason to throw the kitchen sink at Edmonton. With that being said, Eichel, Grigs and Hodgson, and a couple 2nd rounders for McDavid and Yakupov isn't chopped liver. I don't think Murray throws in 16 first rounder since it could be a lottery pick. If so, scratch the two 2nd rounders. Eichel Grigs Hodgson 1st in 2016 (possible lottery) for McDavid Yakupov I see that as doable. If you want a starting point for a trade like this, take a look at the Lindros trade. McDavid alone would cost something along the lines of Girgensons, Eichel, Ristolainen, Georges, and maybe a 2nd rounder or lower prospect. If you're gonna pull off one of the biggest trades in the league's history, it's going to hurt. If you really want to know what a trade like this looks, just keep adding pieces until you think "too much, I wouldn't do that trade" and you're almost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think a swap w/ Edmonton will be more about saving face. Still feel McDavid doesn't want to play for Edmonton and the Oilers won't want to deal with that PR nightmare. Murray knows this. Murray has no reason to throw the kitchen sink at Edmonton. With that being said, Eichel, Grigs and Hodgson, and a couple 2nd rounders for McDavid and Yakupov isn't chopped liver. I don't think Murray throws in 16 first rounder since it could be a lottery pick. If so, scratch the two 2nd rounders. Eichel Grigs Hodgson 1st in 2016 (possible lottery) for McDavid Yakupov I see that as doable. Not even remotely close to doable. Murray would get fired for making this phone call. Take WildCard's offer and add 4 first round picks to it as well as Reinhart and they maybe think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 How much better is McDavid than Eichel? Is it Crosby/Malkin? Or more extreme, like Mario Lemieux/Ron Francis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 How much better is McDavid than Eichel? Is it Crosby/Malkin? Or more extreme, like Mario Lemieux/Ron Francis? Eichel is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 How much better is McDavid than Eichel? Is it Crosby/Malkin? Or more extreme, like Mario Lemieux/Ron Francis? I think it's less than Crosby/Malkin. Maybe Stamkos/Crosby? Eichel does have the Stamkos shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 McDavid is Robb Stark Eichel is Jon Snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 McDavid is Robb Stark Eichel is Jon Snow. It might seem safer up north. But winter is coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 McDavid is Robb Stark Eichel is Jon Snow. wait a minute, Eichel is McDavid's Bastard half-brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) wait a minute, Eichel is McDavid's Bastard half-brother? forget it, he's rolling. Edited April 21, 2015 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sidc3000 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Lots of posters claiming the same. Not sure why, Nolan was the one who hated him. and you know this because your tight with Murray???? It was pretty evident that Murray wasn't happy with Grig's either. Edited April 21, 2015 by Sidc3000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 wait a minute, Eichel is McDavid's Bastard half-brother? ...sort of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 and you know this because your tight with Murray???? It was pretty evident that Murray wasn't happy with Grig's either. What evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Back on the topic poll, Grigorenko is the most likely Sabre traded this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm guessing Grigorenko and Zadorov. Most likely in as a package. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Man I would be so pissed if Grigo gets traded. We are finally at a point were we can roll three lines with little drop off and you guys want to trade our third line center. IMO we have our centers for the next decade with 1c Eichel, 2c Reinhart, and 3c being Grigo. The thing I don't get is. We finally get to were we need to be and everybody here wants to start trading our talent away. We are not going to be a playoff team next year. So everybody needs to slow down and have some patience. This year is about development, not trading our future away for guys like Mike Green and RoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Man I would be so pissed if Grigo gets traded. We are finally at a point were we can roll three lines with little drop off and you guys want to trade our third line center. IMO we have our centers for the next decade with 1c Eichel, 2c Reinhart, and 3c being Grigo. The thing I don't get is. We finally get to were we need to be and everybody here wants to start trading our talent away. We are not going to be a playoff team next year. So everybody needs to slow down and have some patience. This year is about development, not trading our future away for guys like Mike Green and RoR. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating we trade anybody. I'm simply answering the question posed by the OP. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Man I would be so pissed if Grigo gets traded. We are finally at a point were we can roll three lines with little drop off and you guys want to trade our third line center. IMO we have our centers for the next decade with 1c Eichel, 2c Reinhart, and 3c being Grigo. The thing I don't get is. We finally get to were we need to be and everybody here wants to start trading our talent away. We are not going to be a playoff team next year. So everybody needs to slow down and have some patience. This year is about development, not trading our future away for guys like Mike Green and RoR. we may not be far from the playoffs next yr. depends on maturity of Rinehart and free agent aquisitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Just to be clear, I'm not advocating we trade anybody. I'm simply answering the question posed by the OP. GO SABRES!!! No worries. Wasn't trying to direct my post at anybody specifically. Well maybe a little bit at the people trying to throw the kitchen sink to get RoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Not a trade, but does Murray Offer Sheet Saad, Toffoli or some other RFA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Not a trade, but does Murray Offer Sheet Saad, Toffoli or some other RFA? Nope. That's for GM's like Holmgren IMO. I don't really see it as a relevant option, though within the rules. It just doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 No worries. Wasn't trying to direct my post at anybody specifically. Well maybe a little bit at the people trying to throw the kitchen sink to get RoR. I think Roy's relationship with Grigorenko naturally fuels that speculation about RoR. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Nope. That's for GM's like Holmgren IMO. I don't really see it as a relevant option, though within the rules. It just doesn't make much sense. I'd be very careful about offer sheets, as the Sabres 2016 picks may still be pretty early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think Roy's relationship with Grigorenko naturally fuels that speculation about RoR. GO SABRES!!! It does. But I could care less! I want Grigo on this team for the foreseeable future. The way I look at it, we already have 3guy's who are pretty much the exact same player in Zemgus, Marcus, and Delaurias(or however you spell his name). Without trading prospects,draft picks, and our future away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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