Robviously Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 although Murray did sort of make a difference in future league policy regarding the draft, they started implenting to rules to the lottery to try and prevent teams from intentionally throwing away seasons and tanking because of what he has done here to try and get mcdavid I'd put that on Regier. The dude flat out said "Suffering" was the critical part of his plan. And he's the one who enacted the scorched earth policy that Murray saw to completion. If we're changing how the lottery works because we're PO'ed about Edmonton, just don't let the same team draft 1st overall if they've already drafted 1st overall in the previous 2-3 seaons. There, done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I love how tanking is completely okay, even longed for, until it turns out that someone else is better at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I love how tanking is completely okay, even longed for, until it turns out that someone else is better at it. It is not that Edmonton is "better at it" ...it is that they haven't succeeded at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 It is not that Edmonton is "better at it" ...it is that they haven't succeeded at it. We'll see who ends up better first. As much as we all want to get on our high horse, they've had better hockey to watch, have been to a SCF more recently than us, and are further along in their tank than we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 We'll see who ends up better first. As much as we all want to get on our high horse, they've had better hockey to watch, have been to a SCF more recently than us, and are further along in their tank than we are. But we have more Russians so suck it! :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 We'll see who ends up better first. As much as we all want to get on our high horse, they've had better hockey to watch, have been to a SCF more recently than us, and are further along in their tank than we are. Edmonton has finished, what? In the bottom 5, six of the last seven years. I'd say they haven't turned much around since finishing DFL in 2009-10, 2010-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Edmonton has finished, what? In the bottom 5, six of the last seven years. I'd say they haven't turned much around since finishing DFL in 2009-10, 2010-11. There but for the grace of God go the Buffalo Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There but for the grace of God go the Buffalo Sabres. There's significantly more than God's grace separating the Sabres from that fate. But don't let reality get in the way of trotting out a well-worn idiom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Edmonton sucks because they draft soft finesse players year after year after year. They always draft forwards. They never get players of value outside of the 1st round and UFA's have no desire to go to Edmonton because it's freaking Edmonton. If I had to pick a team today between Buffalo and Edmonton, I take Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There's significantly more than God's grace separating the Sabres from that fate. But don't let reality get in the way of trotting out a well-worn idiom. That's what people keep telling me. I really hope it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Edmonton sucks because they draft soft finesse players year after year after year. They always draft forwards. They never get players of value outside of the 1st round and UFA's have no desire to go to Edmonton because it's freaking Edmonton. If I had to pick a team today between Buffalo and Edmonton, I take Buffalo. Careful, little feller. For one, the UFA issue, as the company line goes, is why the Sabres had to tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Careful, little feller. For one, the UFA issue, as the company line goes, is why the Sabres had to tank. No big fella it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 No big fella it isn't. As the company line goes, according to Ted Black, the Sabres couldn't get free agents to come to Buffalo in 2012 and at that point they realized they had to build through the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 As the company line goes, according to Ted Black, the Sabres couldn't get free agents to come to Buffalo in 2012 and at that point they realized they had to build through the draft. lol you think I listen to the company line. Please, do I really appear to follow the herd? We could debate this but meh. Dead horse and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 lol you think I listen to the company line. Please, do I really appear to follow the herd? We could debate this but meh. Dead horse and all. OK. But they did want to buy a team those first two offseasons. By early in the lockout season, I think they realized the folly of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 OK. But they did want to buy a team those first two offseasons. By early in the lockout season, I think they realized the folly of it. Well yea I would agree. The issue is when was the last time since 2005 we saw a #1 center become available? I mean Seguin comes to mind but DR was a little bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well yea I would agree. The issue is when was the last time since 2005 we saw a #1 center become available? I mean Seguin comes to mind but DR was a little bitch. Since 2005? 7/1/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Since 2005? 7/1/7. .... :cry: btw this was the last playoff series we have won to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well yea I would agree. The issue is when was the last time since 2005 we saw a #1 center become available? I mean Seguin comes to mind but DR was a little bitch. Alot more recently, Kyle Turris and Derick Brassard are both #1 C's on playoff teams that have been moved in the past few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Alot more recently, Kyle Turris and Derick Brassard are both #1 C's on playoff teams that have been moved in the past few seasons. Weave, when you think "number one center," is Kyle Turris really what comes to mind?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Weave, when you think "number one center," is Kyle Turris really what comes to mind?! Centering the #1 line on a playoff team. sure, I would want better, but its an honest answer to an honest question. FTR, Had we nabbed Brassard and Turris when they were available IMO this tank wouldn't have been necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Centering the #1 line on a playoff team. sure, I would want better, but its an honest answer to an honest question. FTR, Had we nabbed Brassard and Turris when they were available IMO this tank wouldn't have been necessary. And if my uncle had balls, maybe my family would still talk to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 And if my uncle had balls, maybe my family would still talk to him. Unc is married, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Alot more recently, Kyle Turris and Derick Brassard are both #1 C's on playoff teams that have been moved in the past few seasons. well hmm I guess you do have a valid point. I mean obviously we want better but they do qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Centering the #1 line on a playoff team. sure, I would want better, but its an honest answer to an honest question. FTR, Had we nabbed Brassard and Turris when they were available IMO this tank wouldn't have been necessary. I definitely would have preferred Turris and Brassard to Eichel and Reinhart. They could have been this generation's Plante and Holzinger. Throw in keeping Darcy and Rolston and eighth place here we come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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