Brawndo Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 7m7 minutes ago Sabres sign Buffalo native Justin Bailey to three-year, entry-level contract.The 2013 2nd-round pick has 18 points/13 games for Kitchener. Great move Edited November 2, 2014 by BRAWNDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 7m7 minutes ago Sabres sign Buffalo native Justin Bailey to three-year, entry-level contract.The 2013 2nd-round pick has 18 points/13 games for Kitchener. Great move Fax machine jokes aside, don't all prospects who show ANYTHING get signed. The timing does seem weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Justin Bailey @JustinBailey95 5s5 seconds ago Proud to be from Buffalo and one step closer to achieving my dream! Thanks to my family, friends, teammates, and all who have supported me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, someone tell me, what's the point of signing Bailey now as opposed to after the season? We're we in some kind of jeopardy of losing his rights? Or was this just a gesture of goodwill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, someone tell me, what's the point of signing Bailey now as opposed to after the season? We're we in some kind of jeopardy of losing his rights? Or was this just a gesture of goodwill? We were in no jeopardy of losing his rights. You sign him during the season because he plays for a team that probably won't make the playoffs and as thus can be immediately assigned to Rochester in April. It didn't have to get done now but considering how well Bailey played it is something I am glad they did early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) He will be able to play in rochester after the chl season is done edit: see above lol Edited November 3, 2014 by Numark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 We were in no jeopardy of losing his rights. You sign him during the season because he plays for a team that probably won't make the playoffs and as thus can be immediately assigned to Rochester in April. It didn't have to get done now but considering how well Bailey played it is something I am glad they did early. When this contract is up, will he be a restricted free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 When this contract is up, will he be a restricted free agent? His contract will slide if he doesn't play in 10 nhl games, and then after the 3 years he is an RFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 When this contract is up, will he be a restricted free agent? Yes. This contract is the exact same as what Nick Baptiste signed this summer and what Nikita Zadorov has signed as well. So for instance if Bailey played Juniors again next year (he won't) the contract would slide a year. You are a RFA until you are 26 unless you begin play in the NHL at 18. There are some subtleties in there that could effect that but in general that's the rule. His contract will slide if he doesn't play in 10 nhl games, and then after the 3 years he is an RFA Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eleven Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) I think I've said this before, but my folks are really close with his grandparents, and they've been going to his games since he was a 12-year-old. I'm really happy for him. (Also, he spends time once in a while at a group home that I'm on the board of. (bad grammar, I know.) Those kids love him. He really is a good kid.) Edited November 3, 2014 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think I've said this before, but my folks are really close with his grandparents, and they've been going to his games since he was a 12-year-old. I'm really happy for him. (Also, he spends time once in a while at a group home that I'm on the board of. (bad grammar, I know.) Those kids love him. He really is a good kid.) He's one of a few (Fasching also) that are really easy to root for, and I hope (and honestly think) they will make it as NHLers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think I've said this before, but my folks are really close with his grandparents, and they've been going to his games since he was a 12-year-old. I'm really happy for him. (Also, he spends time once in a while at a group home that I'm on the board of. (bad grammar, I know.) Those kids love him. He really is a good kid.) Sounds a lot nicer than Brandon Lemieux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 The size/strength/skill package that Bailey should have when he fills out is top end. His character, by all reports, is top-notch. Lack of instincts and experience made him drop as far as he did in the draft, where he was a real boom or bust type pick. He really seems to have turned a corner this year. Happy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I wonder if Murray's planning on giving him a nine game NHL stint. Theoretically, if his junior team were to be out of playoff contention, he could come here for three weeks before going to Rochester at the conclusion of his junior team's season. I'm not saying that's what's best, but I expect, like last year, we'll see some young call ups near the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Fax machine jokes aside, don't all prospects who show ANYTHING get signed. The timing does seem weird... Not really, when you lose so many times, you want some good news, and signing the local boy is just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Not really, when you lose so many times, you want some good news, and signing the local boy is just that. But there was zero chance he wasn't going to be signed. Maybe this is bigger in Buffalo than Rochester because it's barely news worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 But there was zero chance he wasn't going to be signed. Maybe this is bigger in Buffalo than Rochester because it's barely news worthy. I agree with this, but the days of everybody who has shown anything getting signed won't be as much of a sure thing given all the extra picks we've acquired. Murray has already shown he will manage by signing guys to AHL deals, so it shouldn't be a real problem, but a couple years from now the organization is going to be really crowded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I agree with this, but the days of everybody who has shown anything getting signed won't be as much of a sure thing given all the extra picks we've acquired. Murray has already shown he will manage by signing guys to AHL deals, so it shouldn't be a real problem, but a couple years from now the organization is going to be really crowded. GMTM has already shown the ability and willingness to move picks and prospects (see Gorges and McNabb). I fully expect this offseason to be rife with prospect and pick trades for impact players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 GMTM has already shown the ability and willingness to move picks and prospects (see Gorges and McNabb). I fully expect this offseason to be rife with prospect and pick trades for impact players. This. I expect that those who are tired of hoarding picks will not be disappointed this offseason. Finish the tank and then move on to this next phase of the rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Phase 1 - Liquidate all valuable assets over the age of 25 Phase 2 - Draft high with your stockpiled picks, begin talent development Phase 3 - Switch from focus on drafting to focus on winning Phase 4 - Compete for a playoff spot Phase 5 - Contender Status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 This. I expect that those who are tired of hoarding picks will not be disappointed this offseason. Finish the tank and then move on to this next phase of the rebuild. If they don't screw this up and get McEichel, GMTM should want to fill out the roster with guys that can help immediately. Like Kunitz and Neal (formerly) for Crosby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yep. I think if we can land McEichel the approach to the rebuild changes. We are more likely to trade away some of the very high picks and start becoming very aggressive in trades and FA. We have the cap space to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yep. I think if we can land McEichel the approach to the rebuild changes. We are more likely to trade away some of the very high picks and start becoming very aggressive in trades and FA. We have the cap space to do it. This will start to happen regardless of the McEichel results. It has to. They're quickly approaching the breaking point where they will need to add a significant amount of veteran presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think that's right. I just think they will go more all in for next season if they land one of the top two guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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