IKnowPhysics Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Rolston's hired and Train Kept a Rollin'. He's going to make decisions about assistant coaches in the next week or so: whether to keep some or all of the current staff, and who else to add or serve as replacements. Likely the bolded positions would be most likely to be shifted, but technically everyone's up for grabs: Head Coach---Ron RolstonAssistant Coach---James Patrick Assistant Coach---Kevyn Adams Assistant Coach---Teppo Numminen Strength & Conditioning Coach---Doug McKenney Asst. Strength & Conditioning Coach---J.T. Allaire Goaltender Coach---Jim Corsi Administrative Assistant Coach---Corey Smith Athletic Trainer---Tim Macre Asst. Athletic Trainer---Bob Mowry Equipment Manager---Dave Williams Equipment Manager---Rip Simonick Assistant Equipment Manager---George Babcock Massage Therapist---Chuck Garlow Let's hear your thoughts. My first thought is to spare no $Pegulas and rehire Scotty Arniel as the powerplay coach if he'd be up for that, but he's currently HC of the Chicago Wolves, so he may not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go. Rip Simonick never liked you either. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Kim Pegula for massage therapist..... And Darcy might as well be Administrative Assistant Coach.......he'd be perfect at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in. Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld... But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together). Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin. :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in. Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld... But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together). Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin. :yawn: I was just thinking about Schoney. When they had the big alumni thing last year, was he there? I can't say the last time I remember hearing about him being in Buffalo as part of any alumni event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in. Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld... But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together). Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin. :yawn: Where have Sabre "greats" gotten us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'd like to see new strength and conditioning coaches. This team consistently looks a step behind and the only time we see guys with jump it's because they're call ups. We could also use an assistant with an eye for the power play which has suffered tremendously for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 The man in charge of our pp should be fired. Personally I think all the assistants should go and let Roloston pick his own group. I should add I bet all the coaches stay because we live on the island of sunshine and kittens where no one gets their feelings hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go. I'd keep all of them if i can. I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I think we should have rotating coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I think we should have rotating coaches... Interesting. I sometimes envisioned Lindy on a spit. I'd keep all of them if i can. I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one. Good post. Who's out there who's better than Teppo Numminen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one. That's the spirit. Self defeat! Who's out there who's better than Teppo Numminen? Nobody seems to know, but everyone seems to claim that they MUST be better than who we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Nobody seems to know, but everyone seems to claim that they MUST be better than who we have now. Yep, that's crazy talk on their part. Teppo's coaching resume speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsaberks Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 A friend brought this up question up yesterday....hockey coaches vs football coaches....how important are they to their respective teams? I'm not a huge NFL fan, but I'd guess NFL head coach has a pretty big impact on win/loss. Schemes, strategy, etc. Belichick. NHL coach much less. To me, the NHL coach is much more culture/leader guy than X/O/strategy. Hockey has a smaller field of play and fewer players involved, less variables. That said, as mentioned in the other thread, Teppo and Patrick need to be held accountable for Myers to some degree. Even if Lindy was bullying him, coach him through it. "yeah Lindy's old school, now pull your head out of your ass". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yep, that's crazy talk on their part. Teppo's coaching resume speaks for itself. I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better? Or at least potentially better? Why should they be hired? If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk. Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn. WIth respect to Tyler Myers, does anyone else think that Myers came out of the lockout with subpar conditioning? Tyler Myers thinks that. “I’ll be the first to admit I definitely need to turn things around, get back on that path to improving and working on the things that have made me successful. It’s just a matter of working that much harder this offseason.”... Conditioning and keeping his weight have been regular issues for Myers, who said he will shuttle between Buffalo and British Columbia this summer in an effort to be in better shape for training camp in September. “I don’t want to lose any quickness. Skating is a big part of my game and I don’t want gaining weight to affect that,” he said. “It’s just a matter that I think diet is going to be a really big thing for me.” Maybe there's a case to hire Gary Roberts as a conditioning coach. Or maybe Myers needs to be held accountable for his conditioning. Nobody blamed Doug McKenney for Raffi Torres' fat ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better? Or at least potentially better? Why should they be hired? If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk. Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn. Perhaps they should purchase Scotts 4 step program..............................And fire our defensive coaches. Whoever has been working with Myers should be embarassed. As, I've stated before, the longer he has been away from his junior coaches, the more he has regressed. Plain as day, even with a brown lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I like Adams, Teppo is probably better educator, but motivator not sure. I like adding Gary Roberts idea, Jim Corsi I think is good and should be kept. Would love Schoeny as a motivator. The Rangers seem to like him as an Assistant GM, could he be a viable replacement for Darcy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better? Or at least potentially better? Why should they be hired? If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk. Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn. I can't buy that logic. If someone wants to tell me Jim Kelly is to be preferred as offensive coordinator of the Bills over other candidates, the burden is on them to explain why. I don't have to prove why other candidates are better. It goes without saying. There are a million guys better than Kelly for that job, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I can't buy that logic. If someone wants to tell me Jim Kelly is to be preferred as offensive coordinator of the Bills over other candidates, the burden is on them to explain why. I don't have to prove why other candidates are better. It goes without saying. There are a million guys better than Kelly for that job, for obvious reasons. But that's why this thread exists: Of those millions of guys, name one. Or a couple. Or justify Teppo's continued employment. Or frame the important requirements of an assistant coach, and then pontificate about why the current staff does or does not meet those requirements. Express some thoughts beyond "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better"- that's the easy way out. I like Adams, Teppo is probably better educator, but motivator not sure. I like adding Gary Roberts idea, Jim Corsi I think is good and should be kept. Would love Schoeny as a motivator. The Rangers seem to like him as an Assistant GM, could he be a viable replacement for Darcy? A couple people have said Adams is good. Any reasons why? Decent local kid with a decent NHL career, Cup included. I agree about Teppo. I'm sure he sees the game really well, undoubetedly a product of his long defensive playing career, which is why he was up in the box for games on the headset. Don't know what his other strong points are. Not sure what Patricks strong points are beyond his long career. I get the impression he's a clear communicator and a student of defensive tactics (but maybe not systems). I've never read a bad word about Jim Corsi, I've even read some of his work. I know that goalie coaching is more of a psychologist position than others on the coaching staff. I don't know if you change goalie coaches if you want to maintain a good relationship with your goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 i don't really care who they keep or get rid of. Except Patrick. I want him gone. I hold him responsible for the horrible, lost, clueless play of the defense for the majority of the year. Maybe he is a good communicator or a great teacher but he was the defense coach of a team that looked like they didn't belong on the ice with a bantam team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I would rather jam my grandma's knitting needle up a random entry point than have a conversation with James Patrick. That guy is like the 2nd oboe player in the Des Moines Philharmonic who would look down upon Charlie Parker..... Teppo is a nice fella. I agree with Chz surprisingly....Adams would be the only one I'd think about seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 But that's why this thread exists: Of those millions of guys, name one. Or a couple. Or justify Teppo's continued employment. Or frame the important requirements of an assistant coach, and then pontificate about why the current staff does or does not meet those requirements. Express some thoughts beyond "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better"- that's the easy way out. It's really not that complicated, man. You just want a debate for the sake of a debate. Want to make a bet? Assuming Ron cleans house with the staff (a huge assumption), not one of Adams-Patrick-Numminen is coaching in the NHL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I have this uneasy feeling that all the assistant coaches will be like Ron Rolston, not experience wise, I mean they will look and sound just like Darcy Regier. It's like "Single White GM." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Seriously, why is the outward appearance of the coaching staff even subject to criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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