Weave Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. Sorry. For me, it's not about the players anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Sorry. For me, it's not about the players anymore. THEN GET OUTTA MY THREAD !!!!!! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I like that list, who would you like for the other goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabres1970 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Vanek, Pommer, Myers, Ennis, Erhoff are the only guys worth anything right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. I agree with the list, although I'd add Miller too because I'm simply not sold on Enroth handling the load and I'm not convinced we're able to find a viable 1b guy. I have as little interest in watching a team that can't stop a puck as I do in a team that can't score. Both suck. That said, the only guy I'd refuse to trade unless I got "the Godfather offer" (to steal from Bill Simmons...if anybody here reads him) is Myers. Everybody else can be had for the right price, but those on your list would absolutely have to be the right price, no way I have a fire sale with them involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. I don't have a reason to keep Kassian, nor do I have a reason to get rid of him. If he brings value in return, I don't see a reason to hang on. Enroth/Miller, pick one; I don't care which. I realize Miller is much better; I also realize the price tag and the potential return in a trade. Similar feelings about MAG/Sekera. I'd keep Vanek, Pominville, Myers, Regehr, Ehrhoff, no matter what. The rest, well, it really depends on the return. It's a little too nebulous to say, "hell, I'd keep Ennis no matter what!" when I don't know what "what" is. Actually, same goes for the whole lot, even those guys above. Were Anaheim to offer Ryan and Getz for Vanek, well, come on. I'd have to say goodbye to 26. Not that it's likely; I'm just pointing out the trouble inherent in this exercise. I do know that there are players whom I like, and whom I like rooting for. I don't want to get into "rooting for laundry." So, with that broader view, I'd prefer that the team keep the above, plus Weber (yeah, I said it, but I see something in him), McNabb, and Miller. Even Gaustad, at the right price. And obviously, you can't get rid of Ellis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't have a reason to keep Kassian, nor do I have a reason to ... blah, blah, blah, blah You are overthinking the thread. Which guys would you like to see on the team next year. The rest, and how it happens is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 You are overthinking the thread. Which guys would you like to see on the team next year. The rest, and how it happens is irrelevant. I guess the rest of my post answers it, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyeddie Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'd like to see Vanek, McNabb, Pominville, Gerbe, Ennis, Kassian, Ehrhoff, Myers, Regehr, Weber, Jhonas and maybe Adam too. Pretty similar to your original list Weave with the exceptions of keeping Weber and Gerbe and losing Leino & Sekera. Weber's a limited player but I like that he'll give you everything he has, however limited. Plus I like Gerbe's fight. I realize he's not a top 6 forward but he can be helpful going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Else? Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 There are players I like on this team, but at this point the loser attitude seemsto be running too deep. So who would I like to see stay NO One. However since this has absolute zero chance of happening, I'd keep Ehrhoff Myers Weber Sekera Pominville Ennis Vanek McNabb Ellis as the 13th forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan2456 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. Very solid, and happy to find another guy who doesn't hate Sekera. Regehr is the only marginal one for me, but with only one year on his contract, I'm okay. I would like to see someone different coaching our young defensemen. I'm not a Patrick fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't know, man. After this crapfest it's hard to form a cohesive, rational thought about this mess. Part of me wants to keep most but kick Roy and Staff to the curb and see if their attitudes are the problem. Another part of me wants to burn this mother to the ground, dance in the flames and piss in the ashes before we rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't know, man. After this crapfest it's hard to form a cohesive, rational thought about this mess. Part of me wants to keep most but kick Roy and Staff to the curb and see if their attitudes are the problem. Another part of me wants to burn this mother to the ground, dance in the flames and piss in the ashes before we rebuild. I certainly understand the sentiment, and in some respects it's hard to think rationally when you get thoroughly embarrassed. But at the same time I attempt to keep my discussions/expectations grounded in some kind of reality. The reality is they're not going to burn it to the ground (and it's probably not even possible in 1 offseason). Something along the lines of 25-40% (5-8 players) I think is pretty realistic to expect. Figure just through attrition of free agency we have a good chance of Hecht, Boyes and Gaustad going (and maybe Gragnani and Kaleta), so that's up to 5 without a single trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. I'd be fine w/ our current D assuming McNabb is swapped into the Gragnani role. I'd prefer to keep Miller over Enroth as I think Enroth's max is Biron (a great backup, an iffy starter). Unless you bring in a faceoff specialist, I'd also like to see Gaustad next year. Though I'd like to see all of those back next year, the only 2 that I have to have a 'knock my socks off' offer for are Vanek and Myers. Kassian, Ennis, Ehrhoff, Regher, and Miller are close to that level. (Poms is almost at that level.) The reason I put Miller there is I truly believe his slump was due to an injury. Having a full offseason w/ no playoff games shortening it, I expect him back to Olympic form next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 The reason I put Miller there is I truly believe his slump was due to an injury. Having a full offseason w/ no playoff games shortening it, I expect him back to Olympic form next year. Ooof! Yeah, those extra 13 games since 2007 can really throw a guy for a loop. Taro? Ooof...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Vanek Pominville Ennis Gerbe Kassian Kaleta Gaustad Leino (only because there's no way around it...) Regehr Myers Ehrhoff McNabb Leopold Enroth Miller Hope I didn't forget anybody... I suppose it's worth mentioning that although I put Miller, Enroth, Myers, and Leopold on my list of players I'd like to keep for next season, that doesn't mean I wouldn't trade them for the right price. Just means I'm not necessarily trying to move any one on that list for a bag of pucks or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ooof! Yeah, those extra 13 games since 2007 can really throw a guy for a loop. Taro? Ooof...... Again, I believe his issues this year are primarily due to a neck injury suffered around October 23. When he missed time due to the Lucic concussion he played well for about 1-1/2 games until McNabb (?) ran him over. He went back to pretty much playing horribly until he got to rest it again over the All Star break. Though he and the team won't admit it, I'd be shocked if he wasn't injured several days prior to the Lucic hit. Fortunately, I didn't get to watch more than 5 minutes of tonight's game (maybe he was the issue tonight, I didn't see enough to have an opinion) but he wasn't in the Joisey game and he was a big factor in the previous winning streak. My comment about missing the playoffs this year, does not in any way imply that he'd've been stronger this year w/out having played 7 playoff games last year. It was purely directed towards him having a full off-season to get the neck/shoulder healed up and because there is no way they're making the playoffs this year he'll get an extra 14-20 days of recuperation. I'm not often prone to betting, but if you have a wager about how Ryan plays next year, I'm game. Provided he doesn't re-injure the neck/shoulder this year I am quite confident that he'll be very good next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've had this topic in my head for a bit. Was waiting for the right time to bring it out. After a throttling at the hands of the Flyers and the trade deadline within sight I figure now is as good a time as any for the discussion. If it is me making the decision I want these guys on my squad next season... Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Adam, Kassian, Pominville, Myers, Sekera, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Enroth. Yeah, right about now I am good for a 50% turnover in our roster. I stopped reading at "Leino." :doh: Sorry. For me, it's not about the players anymore. Agree 100% As long as Pegula is still in puppy love with Regier & Ruff this team will not turn around. Cheers! Missing the playoffs for a 6th time in 10 years! Yeah Status Quo! :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 The main thing I want is for Darcy and Lindy to be gone. Players I want on the team next season and don't want to lose are, Vanek Pominville Ennis Gerbe Kassian Kaleta Gaustad Regehr Myers Ehrhoff McNabb Leopold Sekera Enroth Bring up Luke Adam and Marcus Foligno, then you have 3 forward spots left for the top draft pick and 2 FA's or trades (3 counting a goalie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 The only guys I'd prefer not to trade are: Myers Vanek Pominville Miller Ennis Regehr Ehrhoff Kassian McNabb Adam I'd probably hold on to Weber, Gerbe, Ellis, McCormick, and Kaleta because I doubt we'd get much for them in any trade scenario and I don't feel like those guys are necessarily the problem. I'd be happy to dump Leino too but that's not happening with his albatross of a contract. I'd keep Enroth unless he was part of a package that definitely upgraded the team. I'm luke warm on Sekera and Leopold so I wouldn't necessarily actively shop them, but I wouldn't be skiddish about moving them either and they'd probably fetch more return than the guys in category 2. Hecht will probably retire and I'd actively try to shop Gragnani, Boyes, Roy, Stafford, and Gaustad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan2456 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Very solid, and happy to find another guy who doesn't hate Sekera. Regehr is the only marginal one for me, but with only one year on his contract, I'm okay. I would like to see someone different coaching our young defensemen. I'm not a Patrick fan. My oversight, I'll add Kaleta. He has more offensive talent than he gets a chance to show and you need his style. Having said that, he needs to find a way to stay healthy. His style of play at his size may preclude that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 in order....Miller, Myers, Pominville, Erhoff, McNabb, Vanek. everyone else is expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 New GM: Rick Dudley New coach: Mike Keenan Vanek - Ennis - Pominville Gerbe - Adam - Kassian Foligno - Szczechura - Kaleta Boychuk - McCormick - Tropp Ellis Myers - Ehrhoff Leopold - Gragnani McNabb - Finley Biega Enroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 New GM: Rick Dudley New coach: Mike Keenan Vanek - Ennis - Pominville Gerbe - Adam - Kassian Foligno - Szczechura - Kaleta Boychuk - McCormick - Tropp Ellis Myers - Ehrhoff Leopold - Gragnani McNabb - Finley Biega Enroth Sarcasm? Or are you hoping for the most ping pong balls in the lottery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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