tulax Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 The way I see it either one of these guys can call the other and bury the hatchet just by talking about how much they hate that prick Kevin Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I see Burke as someone who has no trouble getting GM's to deal with him, so I'm thinking they have no problems doing business with him. Most of us have voiced frustration over Darcy's apparent inability to make a deal at the right time. I think I can justify my current opinion that other GM's don't like the way Darcy works. That's fine. I'll just judge Darcy for myself. I don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 One thing I did hear is that Burke and Bob Murray are "good friends" and that could possibly affect the Sabres dealings with the Ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Found it. November 30, 2011 I don't read much into it. 10:15 in. http://youtu.be/-6PkF8_jiDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabres1970 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who cares? The team we're targeting to trade with is not Toronto, it's Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 "There are probably 10 GM's I've never made a deal with. Darcy Regier and I have made one deal, we're great friends and he is a good guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I would take Burke/Wilson over Regier/Ruff in: 1) Bar fight 2) Poker Game 3) Drinking Contest 4) To Order my Food 5) Run Hockey Team Of course, this quote is from before Burke gave Connolly more money than Regier ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Of course, this quote is from before Burke gave Connolly more money than Regier ever did. :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Of course, this quote is from before Burke gave Connolly more money than Regier ever did. Good point. Still would take him over Darcy all-day, every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Good point. Still would take him over Darcy all-day, every day. Would you have made the Kesler trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 "There are probably 10 GM's I've never made a deal with. Darcy Regier and I have made one deal, we're great friends and he is a good guy." Sure, like I said, I have a good friend that offers me crap trades and I told him to leave me alone. We laugh at it, but it is a waste of time. I think he's a good guy, he just doesn't want to risk losing in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Would you have made the Kesler trade? What Kesler trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Would you have made the Kesler trade? Kessel? I am always in favor of dealing draft choices for proven franchise type players. A bird in the hand.... How about Phaneuff? The point being, if something isn't working.....he is proactive. He traded prospects and picks for two difference making players. It doesn't always work, but if you take big enough chances...you will win the Cup in time. You may also be out of a job in short order, but when you value your own skills....that's a chance you are willing to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, Kessel. You mean like dealing Byron and Butler for Regher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, Kessel. You mean like dealing Byron and Butler for Regher? Yes....if you look, I actually targeted Regehr as the 1 guy I wanted here on defense months before it happened. That doesn't make up for the last 6 years of Dumont, Grier, Briere, Pyatt, Drury, McKee.......Vanek sheet.....Kotalik, Afinogenov, Hecht, Gaustad, Kalinin, Pominville contracts.......Boyes, Torres, Moore trades......yada yada yada.... PS....nice talking civil with you again. I'd hug you but I don't want the police involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yes....if you look, I actually targeted Regehr as the 1 guy I wanted here on defense months before it happened. That doesn't make up for the last 6 years of Dumont, Grier, Briere, Pyatt, Drury, McKee.......Vanek sheet.....Kotalik, Afinogenov, Hecht, Gaustad, Kalinin, Pominville contracts.......Boyes, Torres, Moore trades......yada yada yada.... PS....nice talking civil with you again. I'd hug you but I don't want the police involved. Regier didn't have to trade 4 prospects to get Regehr though did he. I'm not saying he's done everything right and I'm not attached at the hip to him, but he's doing what he can to make the team better now and for the foreseable future (not that I don't want something done now. Just not blowing up the team to win a championship, then suck for 5 years.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Regier didn't have to trade 4 prospects to get Regehr though did he. I'm not saying he's done everything right and I'm not attached at the hip to him, but he's doing what he can to make the team better now and for the foreseable future (not that I don't want something done now. Just not blowing up the team to win a championship, then suck for 5 years.). He didn't have to trade 4 because Regehr wasn't 24, averaging 50 points, and 1 year removed from 37 powerplay points and 182 penalty minutes. Now he wears the C. Maybe Regehr should be as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Seems to me like Burke is currently thinking more highly of his players than everyone else, as well. His team currently sits just one spot above Darcy's,.. out of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Seems to me like Burke is currently thinking more highly of his players than everyone else, as well. His team currently sits just one spot above Darcy's,.. out of the playoffs. Might want to check the standings in say....oh....45 minutes. Ottawa about to go to 5th And the whole point came up because it looks like Toronto is making aplay with Anahiem to trump Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Might want to check the standings in say....oh....45 minutes. Ottawa about to go to 5th And the whole point came up because it looks like Toronto is making aplay with Anahiem to trump Buffalo It wasn't bad enough that my battery died right after I posted that, but to wake up and see your spot on post accompanied by that avitar is just too much. I'm going back to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I see Burke as someone who has no trouble getting GM's to deal with him, so I'm thinking they have no problems doing business with him. Most of us have voiced frustration over Darcy's apparent inability to make a deal at the right time. I think I can justify my current opinion that other GM's don't like the way Darcy works. Take a look at the 18 years it took to finally get Kaberle to Boston. Burke definitely has his troubles from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Take a look at the 18 years it took to finally get Kaberle to Boston. Burke definitely has his troubles from time to time. If I am not mistaken Burke hasn't been around long enough for him to be blamed here. He didn't create the Kaberle contract and he was able to get rid of him not soon thereafter. I would give him a bit more credit on that one. All I would say is that when Pegula was looking to buy the team he was interviewing other teams. I am sure that if there were problems with the Regier he would have heard something that bothered him enough to make a change. We know he heard about Ruff. We are not privy to the backroom workings of the NHL and speculation can be very dangerous. Having Burke say something about Regier could be pure gamesmanship. The only thing I am going to judge Regier on is his ability to put together a quality team that can compete. I'm not going to worry if he's not making trades, etc. if being a GM were so easy we'd all be doing it and we're not. In fact, as far as I am aware, none of us are even in the hockey talent evaluation business. Do I want a trade? You betcha. But you have to find someone else who is willing to trade and a mid-season trade is difficult to pull off since people are their most level headed at that time and the on-ice product is clear to see. At trade deadline and in the offseason things become less clear and you have the chance to offload people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Regier didn't have to trade 4 prospects to get Regehr though did he. I'm not saying he's done everything right and I'm not attached at the hip to him, but he's doing what he can to make the team better now and for the foreseable future (not that I don't want something done now. Just not blowing up the team to win a championship, then suck for 5 years.). He didn't have to trade 4 because Regehr wasn't 24, averaging 50 points, and 1 year removed from 37 powerplay points and 182 penalty minutes. Now he wears the C. Maybe Regehr should be as well. Well, I think Burke is a bit overrated as a GM. He seems like a good guy, but also a bit of a blowhard and he clearly enjoys media attention. He won in Anaheim after Pronger fell out of the sky and into his lap. He certainly fleeced Calgary on the Phaneuf deal, but I would ascribe that more to incredible incompetence in Calgary than to brilliant dealmaking by Burke. (I would have loved to see the Sabres make a play there but I don't think Calgary shopped him around much and in any case I don't think TG/LQ would've paid the $$ required.) The Kessel deal is a push at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 It wasn't bad enough that my battery died right after I posted that, but to wake up and see your spot on post accompanied by that avitar is just too much. I'm going back to bed. Chad sleeps for nobody..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Chad sleeps for nobody..... Yea.. but it would be nice if he did... my brain can't even begin to quantify how wrong that picture is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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