chileanseabass Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hopefully we didn't give up much for Conklin though - low round draft pick at most would be good or prospect who isn't going to make it to the NHL with Buff but might do so with CBJ. a 5th rounder from what i heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogie Oglethorpe Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 talking to Soupy on TSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I am convinced Darcy has something up his sleeve. We just needed the extra 1st rounder and the cap space to do it...Guerin anybody? this ain't over - i agree that we're probably after guerin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Wing Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I know there are people who are going to say that all Darcy got was a draft pick - whether it's a 1st round or a 2nd round pick does not matter. Bottom line is that we got something for Biron when we knew darn well that if we waited, we were going to get nothing given his impending UFA status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 TSN just mentioned Guerin is NOT on the ice in St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Billy Guerin come on down! I wouldn't want him here, but TSN said he's not on the ice this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Guerin's cap hit is $2.4 million. We just freed up $1.603 million with the Marty-for-Conklin swap. Gaustad's cap hit is $713K -- so if his cash is available (which it may not be due to Paille being up), we are at $2.316 million, or $84K short. Does anyone know whether we had $84K to play with? I seem to remember we were close to the cap but just a drop or 2 below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McJeff215 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 does anyone else feel like they have been punched in the gut? A year and a half ago, I don't think anyone had any strong attachments to any of these players, now... especially after last week - I want them all here. Yeah - I feel kinda bad. Marty will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Let's be real, now that Marty's gone we can all admit to ourselves that if Miller gets hurt we're screwed regardless. There's a reason Marty never really won the job in 10 seasons in the organization, he was the guy who played when we were waiting for someone else to get ready or healthy. Give Conklin 10 games down the stretch just in case, keep Ryan rested then hold your breath. I agree with the TSN guys. The Devils never have a big backup goalie behind Brodeur. When your making a run for the cup, you shouldn't be worrying about the What-ifs. If Miller goes down, yes they probably are screwed, but what if (like last year) he spends the entire time on the bench? thats a big chunk of change for an insurance policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 If Darcy ends up landing Geurin for Marty and a 5th rd. pick. he should be bronzed and never spoken of by his Christian name again and referred to as "Da Man" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niagara66 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I wouldn't want him here Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Guerin's cap hit is $2.4 million. We just freed up $1.603 million with the Marty-for-Conklin swap. Gaustad's cap hit is $713K -- so if his cash is available (which it may not be due to Paille being up), we are at $2.316 million, or $84K short. Does anyone know whether we had $84K to play with? I seem to remember we were close to the cap but just a drop or 2 below? Well, Guerin would need a roster spot during the playoffs so I would assume they would deal a pick, and a player with a decent salary for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niagara66 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Well, Guerin would need a roster spot during the playoffs so I would assume they would deal a pick, and a player with a decent salary for him Can't he take Gaustad's spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think they would try to get Guerin for picks/prospects only, and try not to touch the current roster. I also think the numbers I mentioned above are so close that this is probably Darcy's plan. On the other hand, I didn't think they were going make any trades, so it shows what I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think they would try to get Guerin for picks/prospects only, and try not to touch the current roster. I also think the numbers I mentioned above are so close that this is probably Darcy's plan. On the other hand, I didn't think they were going make any trades, so it shows what I know. The problem is, IF Connolly comes back, and no one else is moved from the active roster, Where does Geurin fit in? TSN is saying something is emenent with Guerin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think they would try to get Guerin for picks/prospects only, and try not to touch the current roster. I also think the numbers I mentioned above are so close that this is probably Darcy's plan. On the other hand, I didn't think they were going make any trades, so it shows what I know. If you're going to give up prospects, you're going to give up someone on our current roster considering thats where all of our prospects are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 From the Globe & Mail -- looks like we got the 1st-rounder for Marty. http://www.globesports.com/servlet/story/R...ortsHockey/home Sabres' Biron heads to Philadelphia DAVID SHOALTS Globe and Mail Update TORONTO ? Just before the Buffalo Sabres stepped on the ice for their game-day skate on Tuesday at the Air Canada Centre, a public-relations official went up to goaltender Martin Biron in the dressing room. The trade he was waiting for finally happened, a few hours before the National Hockey League's trading deadline. Biron packed his equipment and left the arena, declining to comment because the trade was not officially announced. As it turned out, Biron was traded to the Philadelphia Flyers for a draft pick, thought to be a first-rounder the Flyers acquired from the Nashville Predators in the Peter Forsberg trade. In a separate deal, the Sabres picked up goaltender Ty Conklin from the Columbus Blue Jackets. It was rather odd Sabres GM Darcy Regier did not get a roster player for Biron as well, since his team has been hit by a rash of injuries. This ends a difficult two seasons for Biron, who signed a contract with the Sabres worth $2.5-million a year and then lost his starting job last season to then-rookie Ryan Miller. Despite this, Biron remained a positive presence in the dressing room while he waited for a trade. "I will miss him a lot but hopefully wherever he goes he'll be happy," Sabres forward Thomas Vanek said before Biron's destination was announced. "He's a great goalie and a great teammate. Whoever gets him is really going to enjoy having him around. We're really going to miss him a lot. "He's done a lot for us and he helped me a lot in the year and a half I've been here." Biron will be a free agent this summer, although he indicated in an interview this morning with TSN that he plans to stay in Philadelphia, which has had goaltending problems all season with Robert Esche and Antero Nittymaki. "I'm very excited about the opportunity," Biron said. "[The Flyers] are one of the teams that made some unbelievable moves in the last week to solidify their future. I definitely want to be part of that future." But Biron did say he has not talked to Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren about a contract. Sabres defenceman Teppo Numminen also wished Biron well. "He's a number-one goalie and can be a starter, so I'm sure this will be good for him," Numminen said. "It's been a tough couple of weeks with everybody getting hurt, so maybe that had something to do with the direction we went. "It was a tough situation for him for two years here. He was the starting goalie and then the backup. The way he handled himself was really classy. He always put the team first." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbert1175 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 fyi - not sure if this was mentioned anywhere - TSN is saying Kevyn Adams agreed to a 1yr deal with Phoenix, so it looks like he's not going anywhere...which makes me happy - if he was all we were getting after all this happening this morning, I think that would have been a let-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisky Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Bill Guerin has been traded to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Guerin's cap hit is $2.4 million. We just freed up $1.603 million with the Marty-for-Conklin swap. Gaustad's cap hit is $713K -- so if his cash is available (which it may not be due to Paille being up), we are at $2.316 million, or $84K short. Does anyone know whether we had $84K to play with? I seem to remember we were close to the cap but just a drop or 2 below? On opening day they had ~$95k to play with. So, assuming all the Amerks that are up on the roster are covered by Timmy's salary, then the Sabres could afford Guerin (barely). As an aside, IF Timmy comes back in the regular season, in that scenario all the call ups would need to be sent back down to the AHL (assuming no one other than Gaustad is on BLTI-IR) until the regular season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 More from the Globe and Mail: Flyers help out those conference rivals Eric Duhatschek, today at 11:22 AM EST The Buffalo Sabres? decision to trade Martin Biron to the Philadelphia Flyers has nothing to do with any dissatisfaction over his performance or contribution. Biron was actually the perfect complement to the Sabres? starting goaltender, Ryan Miller, someone who could provide big-league back-up netminding on a semi-regular basis without acting as a threat to their starter. No, the Biron deal was made mostly out of the Sabres' desperation and their ridiculously long injury list. Biron's contract, worth $2.1 million, ate up far too much room on the team?s salary-cap list. With eight regulars out of the line-up and only Paul Gaustad definitely gone for the season, the Sabres needed to free up salary-cap space in order to bring in reinforcements and/or depth players, up front and on the blue line. By moving Biron and replacing him with Ty Conklin, most recently with the Columbus Blue Jackets, the Sabres freed up enough money to make a bigger splash in the trade market later today. Moreover, Conklin will provide a nice complement to Miller. Buffalo could have gone for a bigger name ? an Ed Belfour or a Curtis Joseph ? but they were both too pricey and, because of their vast experience, in a position to undermine Miller?s sometimes fragile confidence. Philadelphia ultimately projects Biron as their next No. 1, something they desperately need, given how badly Robert Esche, Antero Nittymaki and Michael Leighton have played this season. In acquiring a potential unrestricted free agent for a team that fell out of the playoff race months ago, the Flyers did the Sabres an enormous favor by taking him off their hands today. As for Buffalo, this move is simply a prelude to others that - when all is said and done - will provide them with the reinforcements they need to make a deep run in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Did anyone else just lose the online feed from WGR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Guerin to Sharks. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Guerin to Sharks. Damn. In possibly a 3 way deal as per TSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Wing Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 TSN reporting that Bill Guerin has been traded...waiting for details... http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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