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The bees are in the what now? Let me rephrase that and tell me if you agree: "Rape is something a seemingly normal person is capable of committing. And something that normal people are capable of being vicitms of" I find nothing normal about a person who commits rape. They invalidate themselves from that definition by virtue of their actions. You can BELIEVE they are a good person as well, but you could also believe in unicorns. Let me say this about porn. The production of legal, violent porn requires complicit males and females. There are those who like violent sex. This is really no different (other than topic) than the link to violence on TV and video games being blamed for violent actions. While I think it's conceivable that rough sex pornography and violent television may blur the lines for some people I think we can agree that it doesn't do it for ALL people. What you try to say, by using these types of arguments, is that rough sex porn is a problem when it really isn't the problem. The problem is the flawed mental capacity of the person who views it and their lack of ability to understand the differences between what is on the screen and what occurs in real life. It's this lack of comprehension that is the problem. The graphic content may be a trigger but eliminating that content on the basis of a small minority of people is wrong. Which brings me to a few other questions for discussion... The lack of moral compass is a significant problem in this world. It's not something that society underscores. It works against freedom which is what so many people believe we have or need. However, this lack of moral compass runs through a few niches of society. The first, as was mentioned, is in impoverished areas. I'm not qualified to speak to the reasons it happens but I think we can all take a fair shake at some of the more obvious ones. I'm good with just accepting the research. The second, we also mentioned, is with money and power. Again, we see, throughout history, that whenever money or power are to be gained or are at risk the line people are willing to cross becomes more blurred. I say this because I think rape is, in some cases, a by product of a niche of societies lack of moral compass. What I mean is, do we see rape being more prevalent than other crimes inside that same group of people or so we see rape being more prevalent in a group of people who wouldn't also be more inclined to commit other crimes. This in no way is meant to lessen the significance of rape but rather to say that focusing on one part of the problem may not actually lead to a solution. I would love to go on but I am late for a meeting.

Not the dog with the squidhead that StuckinFL was using.

You are correct. I did not read it. Thanks for the info! Someone posted a picture that I saw showing the relative line at the Bills game. 20+ in line for One Buffalo, 2 in line for Molson Canadian. If that trend continues it underscores my thoughts on them putting this out. Well done, perfect timing, hello revenue.

27 games short of 1,000 games? bummer. At least he got to play a long time.

I assume any settlement offer included language that basically said, you don't speak of it, you give up all rights for further action, etc. Accepting a settlement does keep her from testifying and the entirety of legal wrangling and such that will go with it. Power to her to see it through.

Yea.. and killer avatar.

She would still have the ability to sue him in a civil suit as well right? No, older games never get newer rosters. However, Eichel cannot be in the game until he plays 1 regular season game in a Sabres uniform. So, given that the Sabres opener is Oct. 8th he will not be in the game until the first roster update after that. It has to do with some NCAA licensing garbage. So the game comes out on Sept. 15. It's likely going to be a month before you can play as Eichel, unless EA has a roster drop overnight on 10/8 :)

The nitro push is what makes the difference. Any beer on nitro will be less fizzy. Small bubbles.. love nitro. And it is a real stout. I'm not sure why anyone thinks it isn't. BJCP Style 13A. Dry Stout - ABV 4-5% It could be an IPA. Some session IPA's will add oats for beef up the body while using less malt. The wheat usually detracts from the body a bit so that's an interesting twist. Who is brewing it?

I like both sweaters. Now onto other interesting news.. The Leafs are the definition of Canadian Old Boys Network and must have a HUGE kitchen, they've added Lemaire to the mix. http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-add-lemaire-to-coaching-staff-1.345495

Was that a planned meet up or by chance? In any event.. COOL.

I get to play as Eichel as soon as he plays one regular season game in a Sabres uniform and they update the roster files. But I'm not sure what that has to do with charging everyone $1 to remove Patrick Kane from the cover. Very true. The chancellor acted out of emotion and not fact. They pointed out that once the chancellor met with the alleged victim everything changed. Sigh.

This definitely was not the motto in college. As for the Reason article being discussed.. my interpretation was that he was not tried. The school expelled him because they adopted guilty until proven innocent. The point is that the school was found to be acting wrongfully in that case forcing the alleged attacker to prove he was innocent which as they pointed out would be damn near impossible.

Hard to justify the $60.99 price point when most games are $59.99 or less. I understand the idea of her accompanying her friend. But let's take thought processes a few steps further. Was her friend hitting on Kane and was she implying that she wanted to have sex with him? If so, let's assume that sex actually occurs. Is she just hanging around in Patrick Kane's house while they have sex? Seems a bit odd to me. Not only that, what is she protecting? In theory, this would have been the anticipated consensual sexual encounter. If not, then we have implied previously that if it was her that was invited she had no reason to expect Patrick Kane would rape her, then why would she have to accompany her friend? Was fer friend at more risk than herself for being raped by Patrick Kane? If that was a thought, why would you even go to his house? So, let's not discuss this with trying to assign any of this to this particular situation and the potential victim here. Let's discuss this as a hypothetical, two girls are in a bar with a sports superstar way.

And that answers one of the questions I had. Smart move. I think, regardless of whether he is actually charged, there is more here for EA to base their decision on. If am sitting at EA I am looking at my eagerly anticipated new game that atones for the sins of it's predecessor (I played the NHL16 EASHL beta.. it's nice). I have chosen the slogan "Play together. Win Together." I have locked up arguably one of the best franchise pairs for the cover. They have won 3 cups together, they embody my entire marketing campaign. I get this news. Patrick Kane investigated for rape. It involves a female that is not his girlfriend. Initial thought: Somehow, having Kane on the front cover with the slogan "Play together. Win together." will certainly set off the wrong kind of internet memes. Next thought, I am about to put this guy out as a face of my game. Regardless of guilt, he clearly has no regard for his girlfriend and will clearly have a womanizer tag attributed to him.. at best. At worst, he's charged and he's guilty. Next thought: Can I get the artwork changed in time and get him out of the game? His status as a young adult with a tendency to party but otherwise seemingly upstanding just went through the floor. He might recover in time (depending on the severity of the event) but he's toxic right now. I wouldn't be surprised if EA postponed the physical media release if they were unable to recall and change all packaging in time. Any disc that was printed with that logo on the front has to be changed. All inserts, all manuals, not to mention changing the software graphics. They can fix the digital aspects quickly and release downloadable versions of the game but it would take longer to fix the physical materials.

You know.. my filter worked pretty well. I am getting good at ignoring stupid media sensationalism crap like that. I didn't even pay attention to the photo and went straight to the words. Bad choice on the photo, no doubt.

The lack of knowledge and voice not contributing to a discussion isn't important. Hell, some of the 10k plus posters still do it all the time!!!! :) But in all honesty, chime in when you can. Ask questions.. learn.. enjoy.

Just some information that I came across today that pertains to the topic but not necessarily the specific situation. I have not read it in full... http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/11/campus-rape-expert-who-misrepresented-hi The link should work, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change it soon to represent the full title.

There are a lot of very bad "craft beers" out there. Craft does not mean good. Not by any means. Jack's Abby makes an IPL you might find tasty. There are others who make IPLs as well, but I'm going to keep being a JA fanboy! Look for Hoponius Union. IPL = India Pale Lager

Love the Sabres... that's actually pretty damn fantastic.. never even thought of that one. Intriguingly, the LTS was sort of the natural evolution of handle and life. At one point, in the BBS days.. (pre-Internet, you know). I commonly used the name LIfetaker. That was commonly abbreviated into LT. Later in life I started a business and since I was so used to the LT I basically played off that and called it Lightning Technology Solutions.. aka - LTS. And now? it's just LTS... but I suppose I could be Love the Sabres here. :)

And that's how it should be... it happened earlier in the thread (I forget who). The statement basically was. "Wait.. I want to make sure I am understanding what you said, this is how I read that... is that correct?" It's seeking to understand and it's far more productive than what normally happens.

Then again... if people ignored the trolling... The entire reason they are doing it is to gain attention and people routinely give it to them. Calling them out is not going to reduce the instance of trolling, it adds to it. It feeds their fire. Even if they are banned. The best bet is to treat them like they don't exist. Either they elevate their trolling to the point where the mods ban that alias or they quit and go home. They aren't worth the effort. It also eliminates any chance of falsely accusing a new poster of being someone else. In addition, if that new poster has trolling tendencies and they realize no one is responding to them they will either examine their approach and alter it or they will leave. We know all this and yet people get sucked in.

I do love some of the pilot stuff I have had. As for the other stuff? Not my thing. But the smell of wort? Hello!

Let's see if I can get this right so it stays coherent. You bolded my original statement: "What is wrong to assign to her some level of expectation to be raped as a result of making that decision." The way that phrase should read is.... "It is absolutely wrong to assign her some level of expectation to be raped as a result of making that decision". Wow.. I know what I meant when I typed the original statement but in reading back your quote of it I was wondering why you altered what I wrote and then realized... no, I just phrased that very poorly. Granted, I would have used a question mark if I were asking the question, but that aside. I am glad I had a moment to restate what I was getting at there. I don't think anyone would have realistically believed he would be investigated for rape. That's my point. Why should this woman expect it, if no one expected it up to this point?

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I disagree on it being a strange statement. It is absolutely 100% true that if she does not make the decision to go back to his house that she would not have been raped there. It's not about expectation or who's to blame or common sense per se. It's about the inability of an act to occur when the preceding events do not take place to create the scenario for that act to occur. She is responsible for making a decision. It's a decision that each of us can ask ourselves "Would we do that?". I don't know that I would consider that decision to be something mundane however. What is wrong to assign to her some level of expectation to be raped as a result of making that decision. Everyone should take a moment and answer this simple question. Until this story broke, what was the probability that you expected to see Patrick Kane being investigated for a rape charge? Answer that, then go back and be the woman making a split second decision about going to his house.