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I have not watched him play that much, but nothing about him says he is a top-10. I have to watch some more Tappara. And same goes for the other two Finns, 20-40 range, as you said. The Swedes on the other hand, they might have three players in top 10.

This would be an excellent trade, Garland plays exactly like Benson and Doan and Kozak, in fact he probably is more fiesty then all 3, he is always in front of the net and is an ass to play against. He plays just like Brendan Galagher. I suggested on another site we trade Östlund for Garland, but I would trade Kulich too, either one is fine by me. There isnt room for both of those players moving forward, especially is Thompson is gonna be 1 center and Norris as 2. Vancouver wants centers so either one of these players would interest them. I just dont know if they trade for Kulich when he is injured, so thats why I thought Östlund. This would be very similiar to the Savoie Mcloed deal so we know KA has made a deal like this before. I think an Östlund/Kulich would be a very good deal for Vancouver. Would mean we would likely have to move out some cap to fit this in the future, especially with Tuch hopefully resigned. Might mean UPL needs to go.

This is true. It basically comes down to the injury. Calloused bone is a natural phenomenon. Surgical intervention on soft tissue usually leads to some degree of scar tissue, another natural phenomenon. But, scar tissue is not as strong as the tissue around it. So, it depends on the injury.

It’s probably not as rare as people make it out to be. Even the ROR for Tage trade. It took years for this one to develop. STL’s benefit was immediate and ours was not. And before people say ROR won them a Cup, if Tage was in a competent organization, he would/will probably have a Cup as well. I don’t think we can blame that trade in isolation for our woes. I think it comes down, at the end of the day, who was the better player, ROR or Tage.

He plays a rough game and yet..... in the first quarter of this season he's taken only one penalty.

And yet, calloused bones are stronger than they were prior to breaking.

Is it rare though? I’m thinking that idea is born out of the media’s quick rush to declare a winner before the player has even thrown in the new jersey.

On further consideration, I agree. I can’t see Adams making such a trade.

Disagree on Garland’s long term deal not aging well. Strong analytic guy with good middle 6/borderline 2nd line production. Getting paid $6M through 2031, by 2031 $6M will be the new $3M-$4M. Kulich for Garland straight up is a trade I would take. Garland is a guy that signals to your locker room that you’re taking competing seriously, and even if it doesn’t immediately pay off in playoffs this year it’s still a guy that helps long term. To shape this roster into a more serious NHL team, eventually one of Kulich/Östlund/Rosen will need to go for a veteran guy that helps immediately and Garland is one of those guys. Most importantly, he’s one of those guys and he doesn’t have trade protection. I doubt Adams would do it because he’s a lame duck, but it’d do wonders for this team.

While I wish he provided more offense, Mal is a valuable member of the team. Penalty kill, eating up 4th line minutes, and SMASHING everything he sees wears out an opponent. His game is just fine with me.

If the Sabres are losing as much money as you claim (not challenging you on that issue), then a factor in the supposedly inadequate return is the product that he has provided since he bought the team. You don't think that if the Sabres were a serious team during much of his tenure the revenue flow wouldn't be a lot higher? In any business endeavor, a poor product is usually not going to be as profitable or even profitable. And when you are in the entertainment business, the quality of the production certainly is a factor when the receipts are tabulated.

https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/1350482?referrer_id=3865497 The other link had tons of stuff on team CHL, this one is team USA.

Just put a tarp over Rich, throw up some new Jumbotrons around the stadium, and vu la, you have the largest NHL arena in the league. Innovation!!! 😂

They aren’t losing $300M in actual dollars in any scenario you can lay out.

Garland and Sherwood have no current trade protection. Garland has a long deal that won’t age well though. Forbort (injured at present) might be a good 7th D. Other than those 3, all of their vets have trade protection or injury history (Chytyl). I think Sherwood and Forbort would be good adds (I don’t know if Forbort’s injury is long-term serious).

For those wanting an explanation, you are looking at standard deviations away from the league mean. Doan is just behind JJP in gf/60 but is actually creating far better in xGF/60. This is probably happening because Peterka is a better shooter and does a lot of damage off the rush. Whereas Doan is more of a cycle player and the Sabres like to take shots off that this year. Doan's defensive metrics speak for themselves. He's almost 3 standard deviations away from the league average in CF which again makes sense because he is cycling the puck and they are getting shots.

A normal investment does not have you losing money every year though. From the time he bought the team to 2019 the team lost 300 million. There is not a scenario where the sabres are profitable. Complain about Pegula at your own risk. If he sells it will be to someone looking to move the team.

No doubt about it that the Sabres have to avoid extended losing streaks to become a playoff team. But even without such a streak, if this team can't play better on the road, it will be too much of a challenge to overcome. Buffalo is 8-4-2 at home and 1-5-2 on the road. That home/away disparity is simply not good enough to put this team in a position where it needs to be. Toronto's record is 8-4-3 at home and 1-6-0 on the road. Both of these team are dealing with the same road record problem. We need to get our record around .500 to put us in a position to put us in a realistic position to make the playoffs.

Thanks, the media guide had a ton of info. https://media.chl.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/29133708/2025-CHL-USA-Prospects-Challenge_TeamCHL_PlayerProfiles-v1.0-October-28-2.pdf

I remember that game well because just seconds before that play I said to my wife 'Why the fuk do the Sabres have their slowest player on the ice at 3 on 3??!'. Oops.

Tons of scouts in Calgary for the CHL vs USA prospects game tonight. Game two tomorrow in Lethbridge. https://chl.ca/prospectschallenge/

Agree with Tommy Webs here. And to what MJD is saying, think about Pegula owning this team for 15yrs. He invested 200 million initially (I am using easy math) and it is now worth around 1.4 billion. A normal investment doubles every 7years (roughly) so that would be 2 doubles for that 200 million or 800million, but instead he has an asset worth almost double that. That is great ROI. And back to Websters point, let's say Pegula is losing money, first that would be a big tax write-off but then let's do fun math and say he loses 10million a year on the Sabres which I highly doubt. So to date he has fake lost 150million in real dollars but his asset is still worth almost 3.5times what he paid for it. Pegula even if he were losing actual cash each year on the Sabres (again, I agree with Webster that this is doubtful), he would still be up because the value of the team has gone up. Terry can take out low or no interest loans against the value of that asset for cash when he needs it. On top of that, we know the Bills are making money and will make a ton more money once the new stadium opens. The super wealthy view sports team as an asset, like stock in a company. They are currently a great asset to have because they are almost finite (sure expansion happens now and again but not really) and their value goes up every year with merch sales, price increases, revenue sharing, etc... A roughly 350% increase in 15yrs is pretty damn good. On top of all that, you have a shiny toy that when it wins, you get to brag to your rich buddies about and even when it loses, you are still 1 of 32 owners of this thing. Pegula can lose a few million a year on the Sabres because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter at all to him. I do hope, that once the financial stress from the new stadium is behind him (he knows the final cost and has it paid), he starts opening up for both teams a bit more. Still, the guy is worth around 9 billion dollars with about 3/4 of that worth tied up in the Bills and Sabres. He's got more money than God.

Cooley had 4 goals last night for Utah, 2 were in an empty net. I was surprised to Peterka with 0 points. It appears he was not playing with Cooley and Guenther on the first line right now. He played with McBain and Crouse on the 3rd line, Utah has been looking at other line combos.

And if we lose one or two it doesn't mean the season is over. Just don't fall into a losing streak. Since the COVID shortened season 91 (.555) points was enough to get in twice, 92 (.561) once and 100 (.610) once. With 60 games remaining, Buffalo needs 69 points to reach 91. They need to maintain a .575 pace to achieve that.