Rumor: Tim Graham “Sources He has are strongly hinting this is the end for Kevyn Adams”

[PASabreFan]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Who is Rutsoleinen?  Do you mean Jarmo Kekäläinen?  

Sorry. RUOTSALAINEN.

[Pimlach]

So, if Adams moves up to POHO, and Jarmo is GM what really changes?

I just cannot see how this will work.  

I hope Terry gives us a presser on Monday and explains it in detail.  

Just now, PASabreFan said:

Sorry. RUOTSALAINEN.

Who is that?  

[PASabreFan]

3 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So, if Adams moves up to POHO, and Jarmo is GM what really changes?

I just cannot see how this will work.  

I hope Terry gives us a presser on Monday and explains it in detail.  

Who is that?  

If Adams is completely excised, what changes? Nothing, without a fundamental change in the owner. Here's the canary in the coal mine for me: not to go all TaroT, but who are the assistants going to be in this post-Doody nirvana?

[Thorny]

13 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

There's logic and then there's logic. Logic should have dictated KA not returning as GM. His return suggested he was getting one more kick at the can. Now logic would suggest he is still kicking, barely. But the team, with a couple more wins, would be approaching the outskirts of a playoff points pace, and since ending the losing streak, the points pace has been where it needs to be. It would be a weird time to pull the trigger.

Be careful what you wish for. Pulling it now suggests a rearranging of the deck chairs. Removing KA as GM is going to feel good for about 36 hours. LGR is right that a lot more has to change.

No i totally disagree. Your POV may be accurate as far as most are concerned but you are speaking with someone who hasn’t watched a game this season and won’t until KA is fired. For me it makes a huge difference 

For me it’s about getting my team back. I’m not watching again until he’s fired - that’s simply the fact of the matter. Maybe I’m on an island, but that doesn’t change the situation as far as I am concerned 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thorny

[Pimlach]

1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:

If Adams is completely excised, what changes? Nothing, without a fundamental change in the owner. Here's the canary in the coal mine for me: not to go all TaroT, but who are the assistants going to be in this post-Doody nirvana?

if Adams is shown the door and is out, and Jarmo takes over, then Jarmo should be free to bring in whatever assistants, advisors, and coaches that he wants.   If he is not then he should not even consider the job.  

If Adams is moved to another position within Hockey Ops, and Jarmo is the GM, then I do not think that very much will change.  

[R_Dudley]

18 hours ago, Doohickie said:

It was Roma's Restaurant in Genesee in Cheetowaga, just west of Union.  Boss didn't charge for broken plates.  I didn't break any most nights but I broke a few.  I could load a tray just about that fast too.

I got the job because a guy, Jeff, I rode the bus to school with worked there and he heard I was looking for a job.  They had an opening and the owner told him to bring me along on Friday and he would show me the ropes.  I got there and the busboy was a no show so they sent Jeff home to change into busboy clothes and fill in for him.  Before he left he showed me how the machine worked.  It was busy, especially for a Friday night and I got slammed.  I couldn't look up until about 9:30.  I saw the boss and asked him if I was hired and he just grinned back.  I worked there two years before leaving for college.  Learned how to make pizzas, salads and sandwiches too.

I made $2.70 an hour to start which I thought was pretty good money- a whole nickel over minimum wage!

Over a decade later I went there with my family to show them where I used to work.  The owner remembered me and comped the whole meal.  That was cool.

Is that the restaurant that is now La Belle Sicilia on Genesee St. in Cheektowaga?

I still go there on a periodic road trip basis as the food is still excellent for the price..

[K-9]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

if Adams is shown the door and is out, and Jarmo takes over, then Jarmo should be free to bring in whatever assistants, advisors, and coaches that he wants.   If he is not then he should not even consider the job.  

If Adams is moved to another position within Hockey Ops, and Jarmo is the GM, then I do not think that very much will change.  

Yep. Just deck chairs on the Titanic.

[Trettioåtta]

I actually think the best outcome would be for Pegula to announce himself as GM. If he is having to approve sending depth D-men for low draft picks, he effectively already is. This way he can balls it up, and has no one else to blame. Maybe then he will realise he needs to let professionals do their job without his armchair input.

[Flashsabre]

Adams is a spineless Yes Man. He will just execute every idea Pegula suggests.

If Adams is fired and Lindy is made President atleast there is someone in place that won’t just be a yes man and Oegula would respect him enough to let him initiate change he wouldn’t let Adams do.

Adams has to be canned and removed. The hierarchy has to change

[Thorny]

18 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

If Adams is completely excised, what changes? Nothing, without a fundamental change in the owner. Here's the canary in the coal mine for me: not to go all TaroT, but who are the assistants going to be in this post-Doody nirvana?

Adams had a fundamental part in the construction, up to and including the philosophy of the strategy, of the roster, and does so as well re: the day to day operations of the team. When the goal is merely playoffs even just a change at GM can make a huge difference 

Just because you personally don’t value a metric doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value for others. I cannot stress this enough: Adams deserves to be fired. The firing in itself carries a lot of weight for me. It angers me that he’s still here and I could never support a team that wins right now because Adams will get credit and I have a personal vendetta against Adams in the GM role and have since he fired a bunch of people to get the job, and came up with the plan that resulted in the trading of my favourite player, Jack Eichel 

maybe you simply aren’t used to people being this candid? I need Adams to be fired. It carries a lot of weight for me in and of itself

 

 

When the team wins it makes me upset because I want Adams to fail. This is because he already has egregiously failed and any success he has now is undeserved and too late 

Also: there cannot BE a fundamental change in the owner unless Adams is fired. People keep saying “unless Terry changes it doesn’t matter”. Not firing Adams is confirmation nothing has changed. If he’s fired it means there’s at least a possibility 

these takes are leaning dangerously close to “well we can’t win the cup so why make the playoffs at all.” 

like, no. Perfect can never be the enemy of good. Some change is better than nothing 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thorny

[Spoonman]

Check out unbiased Sabres analysis from Calgary w Rhett Warner post CGY game. 
We are not alone. 

 

[Thorny]

21 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So, if Adams moves up to POHO, and Jarmo is GM what really changes?

I just cannot see how this will work.  

I hope Terry gives us a presser on Monday and explains it in detail.  

Who is that?  

GM has the most affect on day to day in Buffalo. If we create a fake role for Adams I’d imagine the sway the role has is tantamount to a fake position 

[Pimlach]

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Adams had a fundamental part in the construction, up to and including the philosophy of the strategy, of the roster, and does so as well re: the day to day operations of the team. When the goal is merely playoffs even just a change at GM can make a huge difference 

Just because you personally don’t value a metric doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value for others. I cannot stress this enough: Adams deserves to be fired. The firing in itself carries a lot of weight for me. It angers me that he’s still here and I could never support a team that wins right now because Adams will get credit and I have a personal vendetta against Adams in the GM role and have since he fired a bunch of people to get the job, and came up with the plan that resulted in the trading of my favourite player, Jack Eichel 

maybe you simply aren’t used to people being this candid? I need Adams to be fired. It carries a lot of weight for me in and of itself

 

 

You might be disappointed.   I hope not, but you might be.   

[PASabreFan]

12 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

if Adams is shown the door and is out, and Jarmo takes over, then Jarmo should be free to bring in whatever assistants, advisors, and coaches that he wants.   If he is not then he should not even consider the job.  

If Adams is moved to another position within Hockey Ops, and Jarmo is the GM, then I do not think that very much will change.  

Then that would represent fundamental change, to a point. Would he still be operating under EEE? Brawndo points out how the Sabres haven't taken on salary in a trade in years. Why are ineffective assistants still lurking behind the bench?

[Thorny]

4 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

You might be disappointed.   I hope not, but you might be.   

I promise you I will not be. Where is Promo when you need him? *I want Adams to fail*. I’m not one of those people pretending to enjoy the solitary and few and far between wins when they arrive: I think I’m just the guy who says the quiet part out loud. It’s a vendetta. I don’t like Grima Wormtongue. He’s a slimy, inept professional who I’ve been calling see-through and disingenuous since day one. As long as he’s here as GM it’s not my team. I cannot possibly be disappointed by his firing because it’s the means to my end in and of itself 

[PASabreFan]

9 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Adams had a fundamental part in the construction, up to and including the philosophy of the strategy, of the roster, and does so as well re: the day to day operations of the team. When the goal is merely playoffs even just a change at GM can make a huge difference 

Just because you personally don’t value a metric doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value for others. I cannot stress this enough: Adams deserves to be fired. The firing in itself carries a lot of weight for me. It angers me that he’s still here and I could never support a team that wins right now because Adams will get credit and I have a personal vendetta against Adams in the GM role and have since he fired a bunch of people to get the job, and came up with the plan that resulted in the trading of my favourite player, Jack Eichel 

maybe you simply aren’t used to people being this candid? I need Adams to be fired. It carries a lot of weight for me in and of itself

 

 

When the team wins it makes me upset because I want Adams to fail. This is because he already has egregiously failed and any success he has now is undeserved and too late 

That's a little kooky, tbh. The Eichel tidbit is another piece of the puzzle, I guess.

Will you be rooting for the Sabres to get swept in the first round?

What metric don't I value? It's all about playoffs for me. It's not for Terry. It never has been. It's about building something that will be dynastic. That's why we're (still) suffering. Darcy mouthpieced it early on... It's not about making the playoffs... It's not about JUST making the playoffs." It was the original sin before the original sin.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Did they take back your watch?  

No they didn’t give me a watch. However, they did give me the 🩸 bloody knife that they frequently used to stab me in the back.😎

[SabresBillsFan]

Adams, the entire front office, the entire scouting staff, and even strength and conditioning coaches need to be fired. And Jarmo better not be GM. We’ve seen his work in Columbus and it isn’t good.

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

That's a little kooky, tbh. The Eichel tidbit is another piece of the puzzle, I guess.

Will you be rooting for the Sabres to get swept in the first round?

What metric don't I value? It's all about playoffs for me. It's not for Terry. It never has been. It's about building something that will be dynastic. That's why we're (still) suffering. Darcy mouthpieced it early on... It's not about making the playoffs... It's not about JUST making the playoffs." It was the original sin before the original sin.

The metric of whether or not Adams is general manager 

Is measurable with a yes or no: it’s not dependant on other factors 

[PASabreFan]

Just now, SabresBillsFan said:

Adams, the entire front office, the entire scouting staff, and even strength and conditioning coaches need to be fired. And Jarmo better not be GM. We’ve seen his work in Columbus and it isn’t good.

That's a good start. Then, if we don't get a new owner in name, we need a new owner in practice. He has to be smart enough to realize it. Please, dear Hockey Gods.

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Adams, the entire front office, the entire scouting staff, and even strength and conditioning coaches need to be fired. And Jarmo better not be GM. We’ve seen his work in Columbus and it isn’t good.

And if we can’t get all that we should just do nothing, agree

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Thorny said:

The fear is a win over Seattle gives Terry cold feet 

It’s futile to predict what this unreachable owner will do. My opinion/ suspicion is that there will be a change sometime soon. It seems to me that having Jarmo hovering in the system makes it possible if not probable. Just my guess?????

[Thorny]

13 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

That's a little kooky, tbh. The Eichel tidbit is another piece of the puzzle, I guess.

Will you be rooting for the Sabres to get swept in the first round?

What metric don't I value? It's all about playoffs for me. It's not for Terry. It never has been. It's about building something that will be dynastic. That's why we're (still) suffering. Darcy mouthpieced it early on... It's not about making the playoffs... It's not about JUST making the playoffs." It was the original sin before the original sin.

As is the bit where I mentioned how Adams came upon the job - by firing a bunch of people even Botterill would rather *quit a rare and valued GM job for* than axe. It’s actually possible to have standards and gather the measure of a man. Or at least my opinion of such. Adams is a slime ball. The way he took the job was offensive. The way he conducts business is offensive. The way he speaks to the fans is condescending and belittling. He’s a fraud. “Yes man”? Try: enabler. Purely interested in promoting the strategy that levies him the most job security personally. Fostered THE worst environment player wise we’ve ever seen, as evidenced by the stick salute fiasco that was proof of the willing disenfranchisement of fans. He’s crafted a roster I despise due to his infecting presence. 

his presence alone tarnishes the crest to the point of it being unrecognizable to me. Swept in the first round? Who - Adams? Who cares. The sabres existed before him and will exist after. He’s not the Sabres. It’s time for him to say goodbye. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thorny

[Pimlach]

9 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

That's a good start. Then, if we don't get a new owner in name, we need a new owner in practice. He has to be smart enough to realize it. Please, dear Hockey Gods.

Have you watched the Podcast with Rhett Warrener?  

They think Rob Ray would make a great POHO a person who can set culture, hire good GM, hire good coaches.  

[Mustache of God]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Have you watched the Podcast with Rhett Warrener?  

They think Rob Ray would make a great POHO a person who can set culture, hire good GM, hire good coaches.  

Rob Ray, Sabre's brain trust.