Thorny Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM 3 minutes ago, pi2000 said: what a mess Quote
Pimlach Posted Tuesday at 03:56 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:56 PM (edited) 33 minutes ago, Archie Lee said: He has not been good enough and has flipped between average and downright bad. You can almost always find a mistake that led to the chance that led to a goal. But a goalie can also make a save. Too often, UPL has not made the save that gives the team a chance That said, there is a pall that has set over the team that goes well beyond an underachieving goalie. It is reminiscent of how the team played prior to Krueger getting fired. I recall Granato telling the team when he took over, that being on a last place NHL team is not the worst thing that will happen in your life. Then he backed that up by setting a new path for how to play. The Sabres have needed that for some time now. There were moments this year where a change in coaching might have given new life and made a difference. Pegula and Adams are intent on punting this season though. There is a pall. There is a black cloud overhead, the stink of a bad tank that won't go away. Brought in by a careless and clueless owner at the helm. UPL is the least likely of the three goalies to make the big save, but I do agree that there is something hanging over this team. They score a goal to get back in it, and then they give one up in the next minute. I do not know if they work as hard as other teams in practice. As a group they seem to expect to lose. The lose just about every challenge as well. This thread is about goalies - Levi toils in Rochester because he has not progressed this year. They bring him up right now he will fail. Levi and Kulich are the compensation for Reinhart. Tuch, Krebs, Greenway and Östlund are the compensation for Eichel. It has been years and none of this worked. Levi may never make it. Tuch appears to be expiring in Buffalo. Krebs and Greenway should be moved on from. Terry cannot turn another rebuild over to Adams and Ruff is not teaching them or helping. They are both spent. Edited Tuesday at 03:57 PM by Pimlach Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Tuesday at 04:25 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:25 PM Which team/GM finally slays the dreaded Sabres hydra? Quote
pi2000 Posted Tuesday at 04:51 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 04:51 PM Maybe they leave UPL in Edmonton. 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted Tuesday at 05:36 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:36 PM There is no reason to keep 3 goalies. UPL has not been good. Ellis has not been good. Pick one and move on. Also start Lyon, the season went to hell when Ruff or Adams or whomever decided that UPL and Ellis needed 9 out of every 10 starts. 1 Quote
darksabre Posted Tuesday at 06:06 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:06 PM Interesting chart from Micah McCurdy today. UPL and Ellis solidly bottom left. As in, facing fewer expected goals but giving up more goals on high danger chances anyway. Lyon in the middle. More expected goals faced but allowing fewer goals on high danger chances. Anyway, there's not much going on in the Sabres goalie pool that is any good. So I don't know why they're bothering to keep three at this point. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Was it a mistake to trade Jonas Johansson? Why couldn't Devin Cooley make his transformation to NHL backup 2 years ago? Can Georgiev come back? What's Cal Petersen up to these days? Quote
pi2000 Posted Tuesday at 09:03 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 09:03 PM 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: Was it a mistake to trade Jonas Johansson? Why couldn't Devin Cooley make his transformation to NHL backup 2 years ago? Can Georgiev come back? What's Cal Petersen up to these days? You have to give Levi a shot at some point? He can't be any worse. They've drafted a goalie each of the last 3 drafts, but none are remotely close to being ready yet. Quote
mjd1001 Posted Tuesday at 09:36 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 09:36 PM 31 minutes ago, pi2000 said: You have to give Levi a shot at some point? He can't be any worse. They've drafted a goalie each of the last 3 drafts, but none are remotely close to being ready yet. 1.) Trade UPL for the best offer. If someone is stupid and gives you a 2nd take it. Middle round pick? Take it. A practically useless 6 rounder? Take it. 2.) Play Lyon and Ellis, if one gets hot, play the heck out of them. If they both are bad and its apparent nothing is coming from them, bring up Levi and give him 6 or 7 in a row. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted yesterday at 03:21 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:21 AM 6 hours ago, pi2000 said: You have to give Levi a shot at some point? He can't be any worse. They've drafted a goalie each of the last 3 drafts, but none are remotely close to being ready yet. Once Levi warms back up in the AHL... maybe. But given the early moves (Georgiev, Ellis) it seems like this year they're just dead set to make Levi spend the season in Rochester. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM Maybe Ellis ends up on IR for a while. Quote
Taro T Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Maybe Ellis ends up on IR for a while. Hope not. Means he suffered a pretty bad concussion if he is. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted yesterday at 05:12 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:12 AM 12 minutes ago, Taro T said: Hope not. Means he suffered a pretty bad concussion if he is. We can pretend 1 Quote
rickshaw Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM On 12/9/2025 at 7:28 AM, Weave said: He may never be? I’ve posted this before but I know a NHL scout who was Florida at the time and I was speaking to him on Levi and how excited I was about him. He quickly, and I mean quickly, told me to not get my hopes up on him. He clearly wasn’t on board with that pick. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM (edited) 8 hours ago, rickshaw said: I’ve posted this before but I know a NHL scout who was Florida at the time and I was speaking to him on Levi and how excited I was about him. He quickly, and I mean quickly, told me to not get my hopes up on him. He clearly wasn’t on board with that pick. I along with a few other here pay for FloHockey to watch all the Amerks games. Honestly Levi has not been impressive this year. (.897 3.04 9-4-2 16 games) Why is this happening? Bad coaching? Is Levi butthurt over the Sabres claiming Ellis? Are teams figuring out how to beat a smallish goalie? Who knows? Head coach Mike Leone had to call Levi out recently after some less-than-stellar performances. Edited 22 hours ago by PromoTheRobot Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted yesterday at 08:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:07 PM (edited) https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/nova-scotia/article/cape-bretons-colten-ellis-surprises-young-cancer-patient-with-goalie-stick/ Was this not reported in the Buffalo media? Edited yesterday at 08:07 PM by PromoTheRobot Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 3 headed monster resolved. Ellis to IR. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted 14 minutes ago Report Posted 14 minutes ago 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: 3 headed monster resolved. Ellis to IR. That's not a resolution. That's a respite. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 7 minutes ago Report Posted 7 minutes ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Taro T said: That's not a resolution. That's a respite. Buys them some time IF they are trying to trade a goalie. Edited 7 minutes ago by PromoTheRobot Quote
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