Alex Tuch contract talks

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

10m AAV?  😱 The question isn’t how much the cap goes up, instead, what is Pegula’s internal cap going to be if the cap limit does explode?

I don’t care short term or long term, I would be very leary about giving Tuch that kind of money.  

Just like Sasquatch, everyone believes it exists.

[Taro T]

2 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

They have disabled deferments as of the new CBA but when did they state the cap hit will reflect the true AAV with deferments? 

They've ALWAYS had the deferments reflect the particular year the money is earned's NPV during the Salary Cap era.

Which is why when a player actually made use of that benefit this past year it was silly that people were going nuts about there being cap circumvention.  There was no such thing happening.

[MDFan]

It just seems to me that in many ways the Tuch negotiations are a crucial test of the seriousness of this organization.  I know many would argue that question is already answered and I would not dispute that sentiment, but to the extent hope remains then this negotiation is critical.
 

I do not see any way the Sabres can let Tuch walk and have any prayer of fielding a competitive team with this current regime or player set.  Quite simply, he embodies what they have been preaching they want in their players, in every respect.  I care little about league comparison of value based on advanced stats or any other measure when discussing Tuch.  He is critical to THIS team.  Signing him provides a window for this team to right this particular ship and move forward.  Failure to sign him is admission of failure, and whether they would admit it or not, a restart on the rebuild yet again.  

[DarthEbriate]

On 9/25/2025 at 3:53 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

Just like Sasquatch, everyone believes it exists.

The owner of the team announced EEE, and proceeded to have the following in cap space by season $8.8M, $15.5M, $17.2M, $10.6M, and $8.5M and are going into the season with $5.19 after a massive cap bump and trading an extendable player (JJP) for two economic and cost-controlled assets. The owner has not made a public statement since. The ownership believes it exists until they prove otherwise.

[bob_sauve28]

22 minutes ago, MDFan said:

It just seems to me that in many ways the Tuch negotiations are a crucial test of the seriousness of this organization.  I know many would argue that question is already answered and I would not dispute that sentiment, but to the extent hope remains then this negotiation is critical.
 

I do not see any way the Sabres can let Tuch walk and have any prayer of fielding a competitive team with this current regime or player set.  Quite simply, he embodies what they have been preaching they want in their players, in every respect.  I care little about league comparison of value based on advanced stats or any other measure when discussing Tuch.  He is critical to THIS team.  Signing him provides a window for this team to right this particular ship and move forward.  Failure to sign him is admission of failure, and whether they would admit it or not, a restart on the rebuild yet again.  

Tuch probably knows this and is using it for leverage 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

The owner of the team announced EEE, and proceeded to have the following in cap space by season $8.8M, $15.5M, $17.2M, $10.6M, and $8.5M and are going into the season with $5.19 after a massive cap bump and trading an extendable player (JJP) for two economic and cost-controlled assets. The owner has not made a public statement since. The ownership believes it exists until they prove otherwise.

And every offseason his GM went after big-dollar free agents, though he failed to sign them. Why even bother if this internal cap exists?

[Mango]

3 hours ago, MDFan said:

It just seems to me that in many ways the Tuch negotiations are a crucial test of the seriousness of this organization.  I know many would argue that question is already answered and I would not dispute that sentiment, but to the extent hope remains then this negotiation is critical.
 

I do not see any way the Sabres can let Tuch walk and have any prayer of fielding a competitive team with this current regime or player set.  Quite simply, he embodies what they have been preaching they want in their players, in every respect.  I care little about league comparison of value based on advanced stats or any other measure when discussing Tuch.  He is critical to THIS team.  Signing him provides a window for this team to right this particular ship and move forward.  Failure to sign him is admission of failure, and whether they would admit it or not, a restart on the rebuild yet again.  

If Tuch walks or is traded at the deadline and I'm fairly confident that Thompson requests a trade with Dahlin following suit within a season, maybe 2 tops.

Tuch walks and we are right back to square one.

[7+6=13]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

If Tuch walks or is traded at the deadline and I'm fairly confident that Thompson requests a trade with Dahlin following suit within a season, maybe 2 tops.

Tuch walks and we are right back to square one.

What if Tuch signs for 8 years/88 mil and then Tage asks for a trade mid season, then Benson's agent leaks that he won't sign an extension under any circumstances?