Alex Tuch contract talks

[dudacek]

Tuch is re-signing unless Adams insults him or he has an absolutely crazy ask

That’s what usually happens when both sides want it to happen.

The rest is just negotiation.

[Carmel Corn]

3 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

Tuch has been one of the best value players not on their ELC, we've had. I wonder if he's looking to make up for some of that, beyond his current value.

Agree….not to mention maybe keeping an eye on some other players negotiating new deals….like Kaprizov with the Wild.  Depending on where that lands, Alex and his agent could say that $10 million AAV is reasonable.

[bob_sauve28]

 

 

 

 

[dudacek]

Story also says both sides leaning toward long term, sense is that this gets done, but nothing is imminent.

It's basically about the rising cap and what's fair under the re-setting market.

[tom webster]

30 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Story also says both sides leaning toward long term, sense is that this gets done, but nothing is imminent.

It's basically about the rising cap and what's fair under the re-setting market.

People that I would trust with my life tell me this deal was done and than it wasn’t. My feeling, with no collaboration, is that NHLPA, is pushing these guys to reset the market. I think I posted earlier that there is talk of a $150M cap in the not too distant future and players don’t want to be making $9M when players start earning $20M.

[dudacek]

30 minutes ago, tom webster said:

People that I would trust with my life tell me this deal was done and than it wasn’t. My feeling, with no collaboration, is that NHLPA, is pushing these guys to reset the market. I think I posted earlier that there is talk of a $150M cap in the not too distant future and players don’t want to be making $9M when players start earning $20M.

Gonna be a run on contracts that blow peoples minds today and look like bargains in 2 or 3 years.

Might be in Tuch’s best interest to follow Byram’s lead and sign for a year or 2.

Still think Power’s contract has the potential to look like a major steal at the back end.

[dudacek]

Here’s the thing about the NHLPA resetting the market:

The players are getting 50% regardless, every extra dollar McDavid squeezes out of some team is just a dollar less for the Justin Danforth and Conor Timmins of the world.

No skin off Bettmans ass.

[jad1]

9 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Gonna be a run on contracts that blow peoples minds today and look like bargains in 2 or 3 years.

Might be in Tuch’s best interest to follow Byram’s lead and sign for a year or 2.

Still think Power’s contract has the potential to look like a major steal at the back end.

Dahlin's deal is going to look like a major steal in a couple of years.

Don't understand why the Sabres are balking at a double digit AAV for Tuch.  Just give him Dahlin's deal and be done with it.

[Taro T]

13 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Here’s the thing about the NHLPA resetting the market:

The players are getting 50% regardless, every extra dollar McDavid squeezes out of some team is just a dollar less for the Justin Danforth and Conor Timmins of the world.

No skin off Bettmans ass.

Have been saying this for YEARS.  And still to this day can't understand why the rank and file end up going along with leadership when they push hard for guys getting close to max deals and ALSO when the leadership fights so hard to keep guys that injure their brethren from getting punished.

The players get 1/2 of the pie, regardless how big or small the pie is (Covid disruptions to that not withstanding).  It is in their best interest to do everything possible to grow the pie and the best way to do that is to put a tremendously entertaining product on the ice.

And the players don't seem to understand that when they adjust actual salaries to meet the 50% of revenue total, that they do a straight %age boost across the board when revenues come in above projections (and, pulling Covid out of the picture, they almost always end up exceeding projections).  So, if HRR exceeds projections by 10%, then a $1MM player actually gets $1.1MM and a $10MM player gets $11MM.  The divide between the haves and have nots actually increases even more.

Granted, on those rare occassions projections don't get met, the bigger monied players take the bigger hit, but that is the exception, not the rule.

And, rather than wanting to come down on the guys that cross check others in the back eventually helping to contribe to back issues for players that are extremely talented (cough, cough, Dahlin); the leaders of the NHLPA are perfectly fine with that crud.  Well, when the skilled players are out of the game, its a LOT less enteraining.  Not saying they should go to a checking free game; but the PA needs to care about more than simply hits that might lead to concussions.