Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft

[PromoTheRobot]

25 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

The team that doesn’t spend to cap was dumping salaries because of Bo Byram’s potential offer sheet.  Only Adams.  

If you're going to call our GM dumb, don't make your own dumb suggestions 

Edited 10 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[PromoTheRobot]

20 hours ago, sabremike said:

So the Sabres are in a complete state of paralysis until the situation with Byram is resolved.

What a hilarious shitshow this organization is.

Please explain how the Sabres are paralyzed? Is there a deadline to move Byram? Does the season start next week? Is your Hot Pocket taking too long? Chill.

[Dr. Who]

15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

If you're going to call our GM dumb, don't make your own dumb suggestions 

I don't see a suggestion there. It's an observation. We don't spend to cap, do you disagree? Didn't KA say that they were proactively dumping salary so that offer sheets for Byram could be matched?

[Dr. Who]

14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Please explain how the Sabres are paralyzed? Is there a deadline to move Byram? Does the season start next week? Is your Hot Pocket taking too long? Chill.

Probably they were not paralyzed in the sense that the big ticket FAs likely were not interested. But if you are keeping money in reserve dependent on whether you are going to match an offer sheet or sign Byram to a contract, presumably one isn't using that cap space to go after an Ehlers, for instance. Regardless, at this point, they can wait it out if they want.

Edited 10 hours ago by Dr. Who

[Turbo44]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I don't see a suggestion there. It's an observation. We don't spend to cap, do you disagree? Didn't KA say that they were proactively dumping salary so that offer sheets for Byram could be matched?

A Zucker type can be  signed in the weeks to come after the Byram thing works itself out

[Pimlach]

57 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

If you're going to call our GM dumb, don't make your own dumb suggestions 

where do you see a suggestion?  Did  you watch his latest press conference? 

I didn’t call him dumb but I do think he is a very poor GM, not dumb, just bad at his job and his record reflects that.  

Sorry if that offends you.  
 

[K-9]

53 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

where do you see a suggestion?  Did  you watch his latest press conference? 

I didn’t call him dumb but I do think he is a very poor GM, not dumb, just bad at his job and his record reflects that.  

Sorry if that offends you.  
 

Dumb or not, he has been incompetent to this point as GM of this team and his redundant line of bull$hit every time he gets behind a mic has worn quite thin. 

[Carmel Corn]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

where do you see a suggestion?  Did  you watch his latest press conference? 

I didn’t call him dumb but I do think he is a very poor GM, not dumb, just bad at his job and his record reflects that.  

Sorry if that offends you.  
 

I’ll go ahead and call him “Dumb”.  A skilled and seasoned manager would not insult his team’s geographical area in reference to taxes and palm trees.  It was a dumb statement that will stick to him like flies on $hit.

Edited 8 hours ago by Carmel Corn

[Thorny]

 

2 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

A Zucker type can be  signed in the weeks to come after the Byram thing works itself out

Who do you have in mind 

Looking at remaining available FAs I think the list starts and ends with Roslovic. 

Tbh that does seem to be a sabres fall back option to a T

Edited 7 hours ago by Thorny

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I don't see a suggestion there. It's an observation. We don't spend to cap, do you disagree? Didn't KA say that they were proactively dumping salary so that offer sheets for Byram could be matched?

Maybe I read it wrong but @Pimlach suggested Adams opening cap space was not about that. That it was just about being cheap. And frankly, I think the leftover cap happened because Adams could not land players he was targeting, and failing that, he wasn't going to just spend on any JAG for appearances.

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Probably they were not paralyzed in the sense that the big ticket FAs likely were not interested. But if you are keeping money in reserve dependent on whether you are going to match an offer sheet or sign Byram to a contract, presumably one isn't using that cap space to go after an Ehlers, for instance. Regardless, at this point, they can wait it out if they want.

They need to have cap in case they trade Byram for any player, even ones with large contracts. And the threat of a offer sheet is still there.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

where do you see a suggestion?  Did  you watch his latest press conference? 

I didn’t call him dumb but I do think he is a very poor GM, not dumb, just bad at his job and his record reflects that.  

Sorry if that offends you.  
 

Correct me if I'm wrong but you said "Only Adams" would dump salary to defend against an offer sheet as if you didn't believe it or didn't take that threat seriously.

[PromoTheRobot]

57 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Dumb or not, he has been incompetent to this point as GM of this team and his redundant line of bull$hit every time he gets behind a mic has worn quite thin. 

I think many take anything Adams says as stupid without actually hearing what he's saying. The Sabres were actually smart for once defending against an offer sheet. And since they can't land any blue chip scoring in free agency, at least they are improving the back end and team grit. 

[Dr. Who]

26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

They need to have cap in case they trade Byram for any player, even ones with large contracts. And the threat of a offer sheet is still there.

Yes, I understand. I was just saying in the context of whether or not the Sabres are "paralyzed," i.e., unable to pursue a big ticket free agent, all those fellas are signed with someone, so there is no urgency of that sort. 

[Pimlach]

51 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but you said "Only Adams" would dump salary to defend against an offer sheet as if you didn't believe it or didn't take that threat seriously.

You pick the offer sheet part of my statement and you conveniently missed the salary cap part. Combine the two situation and you might understand my point - he is a step behind. 

He does not spend to the cap, even though he says its not Terry that is holding him back.  Despite this, he is dumping salary to defend against an offer sheet for his 2nd best defenseman.   Why?  Because he created the situation he was defending against - just look at Power's contract and Samuelsson's contract -  they are the work of a GM that had no business running an NHL team.   

To me he appears to be operating without a plan.  In my opinion he was done a poor job and is over his head.  But since I am married to this team I am willing to follow them and see if Lindy can make something out of this roster.  

 

 

 

 

[jahnyc]

In terms of strategy, shedding salaries and creating cap room for free agency is a nice idea, but the reality for the Sabres is that they had very little chance of attracting the few free agents available that would have been upgrades given the team's reputation and general lack of quality free agents in this cycle.

Creating cap space to defend against an offer sheet makes no sense to me.  The Sabres have known since season end that they were inclined to trade Byram.  He should have been traded before the draft, particularly if one or more draft picks will be part of the return (so we could have made the picks instead of waiting another year).  This also would have informed their approach to free agency instead of having no clue as to how much cap space they have to work with (although, to be fair, it may not have mattered given that the Sabres are not a desired destination for free agents).  The thing I do not understand is why would our front office let another team now make an offer sheet that will take much of the decision making (and trade opportunities) out of their hands?

Just seems like poor planning and execution to me.

[PromoTheRobot]

48 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

You pick the offer sheet part of my statement and you conveniently missed the salary cap part. Combine the two situation and you might understand my point - he is a step behind. 

He does not spend to the cap, even though he says its not Terry that is holding him back.  Despite this, he is dumping salary to defend against an offer sheet for his 2nd best defenseman.   Why?  Because he created the situation he was defending against - just look at Power's contract and Samuelsson's contract -  they are the work of a GM that had no business running an NHL team.   

To me he appears to be operating without a plan.  In my opinion he was done a poor job and is over his head.  But since I am married to this team I am willing to follow them and see if Lindy can make something out of this roster.  

 

 

 

 

Wow, you're contradicting yourself while you think you're proving you point. 😂

Adams doesn't spend enough but he put himself in a bad spot by spending too much? Wow. 🥨🥨🥨🥨 

Meanwhile in the weeks and months leading to July 1, not you, not anyone on this site brought up the Sabres risk exposure to an offer sheet. Yet here's our "poor dumb" GM getting ahead of the issue. Who'd think it? Not you, apparently.

 

[Flashsabre]

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/blues-sharks-among-teams-eyeing-byram
 

IDK what the Sharks would offer

[PromoTheRobot]

22 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

In terms of strategy, shedding salaries and creating cap room for free agency is a nice idea, but the reality for the Sabres is that they had very little chance of attracting the few free agents available that would have been upgrades given the team's reputation and general lack of quality free agents in this cycle.

Creating cap space to defend against an offer sheet makes no sense to me.  The Sabres have known since season end that they were inclined to trade Byram.  He should have been traded before the draft, particularly if one or more draft picks will be part of the return (so we could have made the picks instead of waiting another year).  This also would have informed their approach to free agency instead of having no clue as to how much cap space they have to work with (although, to be fair, it may not have mattered given that the Sabres are not a desired destination for free agents).  The thing I do not understand is why would our front office let another team now make an offer sheet that will take much of the decision making (and trade opportunities) out of their hands?

Just seems like poor planning and execution to me.

You think that trades are like light switches that you turn on and off.  

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Wow, you're contradicting yourself while you think you're proving you point. 😂

Adams doesn't spend enough but he put himself in a bad spot by spending too much? Wow. 🥨🥨🥨🥨 

Meanwhile in the weeks and months leading to July 1, not you, not anyone on this site brought up the Sabres risk exposure to an offer sheet. Yet here's our "poor dumb" GM getting ahead of the issue. Who'd think it? Not you, apparently.

 

Not contradictory 

when you are willingly spending less, spending what you do have the allotment for mistakenly is an even more egregious error

[shrader]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

You pick the offer sheet part of my statement and you conveniently missed the salary cap part. Combine the two situation and you might understand my point - he is a step behind. 

He does not spend to the cap, even though he says its not Terry that is holding him back.  Despite this, he is dumping salary to defend against an offer sheet for his 2nd best defenseman.   Why?  Because he created the situation he was defending against - just look at Power's contract and Samuelsson's contract -  they are the work of a GM that had no business running an NHL team.   

To me he appears to be operating without a plan.  In my opinion he was done a poor job and is over his head.  But since I am married to this team I am willing to follow them and see if Lindy can make something out of this roster.  

 

 

 

 

And you believe that? Adams himself is a cost-saving hire. 

[PromoTheRobot]

10 minutes ago, shrader said:

And you believe that? Adams himself is a cost-saving hire. 

Adams salary is not public knowledge, yet you know what it is. Impressive.

[The Jokeman]

5 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

A Zucker type can be  signed in the weeks to come after the Byram thing works itself out

Same thing with a guy like Quinn as not sure why we made him a priority signing this offseason. He should have been the last one we'd have to re-sign or IF somebody did give him offer sheet I'd let him walk pending level of compensation.

Edited 4 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Taro T]

14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Adams salary is not public knowledge, yet you know what it is. Impressive.

If Kevyn Adams isn't one of the 5 lowest paid GMs in the NHL, would be surprised.  If he isn't one of the 10 lowest paid GMs in the NHL would be shocked.  He's a 1st time GM with literally his greatest success in 5 seasons as the GM being having finished 9 points above NHL 0.500 once.  Every other season his teams have finished below 0.500.

[Pimlach]

41 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Wow, you're contradicting yourself while you think you're proving you point. 😂

Adams doesn't spend enough but he put himself in a bad spot by spending too much? Wow. 🥨🥨🥨🥨 

Meanwhile in the weeks and months leading to July 1, not you, not anyone on this site brought up the Sabres risk exposure to an offer sheet. Yet here's our "poor dumb" GM getting ahead of the issue. Who'd think it? Not you, apparently.

 

No, I am not contradicting a thing.  You simply refuse to acknowledge that I made a valid point that was, and apparently still is, over your head.   Others here chimed in that they get it.  You don't.  Your sentence in bold shows that either you don't get it or you just want to argue and twist things.  

You act like the RFA risk exposure is something new.  The rules have been in place for a long time. Adams did not do anything brilliant, he did what every GM would do.   He was reacting to the situation that he created.   He expected to unload Byram in the first days and he failed to do it, so he had to make the moves he did.   You can call it smart, I see it as more of the same - his inability to get the job done.   

You seem to forget that it is not my job, or any other posters job, to manage this team.  I do not have to think of every contingency Adams faces and then post them, and that would be impossible without more details.   You are being absurd to even suggest it.  You are grasping and it is not a good look.  Your defense of Kevyn Adams as an NHL GM would be laughable if it wasn't so tiring and sad.  

Just so you know, I hope he does fix things.  I don't enjoy seeing this team on the bottom.  I love the team, I try not to be overly negative but I  can't defend the way it is being managed.  

 

[jahnyc]

48 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You think that trades are like light switches that you turn on and off.  

Trades are made based on timing considerations all of the time and it has been clear that the Sabres wanted to trade Byram.  Certainly discussed in the media for months.