Friedman believes changes are coming to Sabres Front Office; UPL Available?

[HumanSlinky39]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

That hurt my brain.

1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

Pope?

He said imminent not eminence.

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

[JohnC]

22 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Were is the accountability talk this year?  Last year Adams blamed Granato, and he even had players repeating the mantra.  

This year is it  conditioning?  and what else?  better goaltending and/or better defense?  better special teams?  coming together sooner?   

Everything but the truth - the roster is not good enough, the coaching is not good enough, the experience and leadership is not there. 

Missing the playoffs hurts more than just lost revenues.  The team can't learn and grow together when they NEVER make the playoffs. 

Adams' deliberately slow plan, based on saving your payroll (salary cap) to sign only your own drafted players has become self defeating.   

 

It's like the head executioner calling the execution squad to get in a circle and start shooting. How do get out of the circle of futility? Expecting the same incompetent people who placed you in that suicidal shooting formation to properly line up the shooters without wounding themselves is a delusion at a stupefying level. 

It's incomprehensible to think what this bogus owner has done to this franchise. Most new owners learn from their mistakes. This large boat owning owner doubles down after making a mistake. Stupidity at a grand level

[JP51]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

It's like the head executioner calling the execution squad to get in a circle and start shooting. How do get out of the circle of futility? Expecting the same incompetent people who placed you in that suicidal shooting formation to properly line up the shooters without wounding themselves is a delusion at a stupefying level. 

It's incomprehensible to think what this bogus owner has done to this franchise. Most new owners learn from their mistakes. This large boat owning owner doubles down after making a mistake. Stupidity at a grand level

I would not disparage the word stupidity by comparing it to our owner lol ...  stupid isnt a choice it just is... this man is willfully negligent and makes up for it with the brashest level of extreme incompetence and then washes it all down with a big old cold mug of Silence...  I can think of no other situation in modern day sports where the owner has this level of abject lunacy in his decisions.... its literally almost like you actually have to try to be this bad... 

[Taro T]

12 hours ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

 

 

Face it.  We're cursed.

[Brawndo]

 

[Taro T]

14 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Which unfortunately doesn't really tell us anything new other than the meeting between the 2 has already happened.  (And considering NOTHING official has happened yet; expecting no news is bad news...)

[dudacek]

Just now, Taro T said:

Which unfortunately doesn't really tell us anything new other than the meeting between the 2 has already happened.  (And considering NOTHING official has happened yet; expecting no news is bad news...)

Clearly its because new GM Joe Juneau (Terry says he's a rocket scientist, you know) is trying to get Dick Smehlik signed on as zone exit coach before they announce anything.

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

Clearly its because new GM Joe Juneau (Terry says he's a rocket scientist, you know) is trying to get Dick Smehlik signed on as zone exit coach before they announce anything.

At least you didn't throw Housley's name in there uniting the entirely of the most hated triumverate of former Sabres this kid has known.

[dudacek]

Just now, Taro T said:

At least you didn't throw Housley's name in there uniting the entirely of the most hated triumverate of former Sabres this kid has known.

Damn, I was trying my best 😁

[dudacek]

I think our internal shuffle thinking isn't giving Terry enough credit.

How about Marty as head coach? Rob Ray as GM?

 

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

At least you didn't throw Housley's name in there uniting the entirely of the most hated triumverate of former Sabres this kid has known.

Right on... Housley is my least favorite Sabre off all time... when he started berating his team for not going to the difficult places on the ice the abject hypocrisy of his mouth made me ill... Richard Smell Ick was another one...  JJ was bad, but Kenny Sutton has got to be on that list...  maybe Derek Roy as well... 

3 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I think our internal shuffle thinking isn't giving Terry enough credit.

How about Marty as head coach? Rob Ray as GM?

 

They actually might play for Marty just to get him to shut up LOL... Razor would be an interesting person to listen to after games... lol... 

[Flashsabre]

😳

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

😳

Anybody want to translate what Lance is trying to say there?  He expects Adams to stay in his current job as a figurehead?  He expects Adams bumped up to PoHO?  He expects Karmanos and Ventura to leave?  Other?

[Archie Lee]

26 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

😳

It’s just my opinion, but a journalist should give some information that clarifies if he is just speculating. If Ruff is now in charge of the roster and Lysowski has inside information, he should at least add that he has a source who has confirmed this. There is too much reading between the lines. I mean, I thought Ruff was the man behind the 4th line changes last year…until that didn’t work so well, and then it was all on Adams. 

[Flashsabre]

26 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Anybody want to translate what Lance is trying to say there?  He expects Adams to stay in his current job as a figurehead?  He expects Adams bumped up to PoHO?  He expects Karmanos and Ventura to leave?  Other?

As a guess based on the way Terry operates lately, Ruff as GM/Coach, Adams President, not a penny spent on the changes.  Maybe Lindy gets to pick a couple assistant coaches.

[LGR4GM]

41 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

😳

Jfc

33 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Anybody want to translate what Lance is trying to say there?  He expects Adams to stay in his current job as a figurehead?  He expects Adams bumped up to PoHO?  He expects Karmanos and Ventura to leave?  Other?

[GASabresIUFAN]

15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Jfc

So your saying the Sabres are a dumpster fire floating on a river of crap.

[Pimlach]

These cryptic blurbs from social media are irrational to me.  

So far we have Adams and TP met already, and that Lindy is in charge of the roster. 

Knowing TP I will guess that  no one currently on contract is leaving, but there will be title and responsibility changes.  

 

 

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Do I need to start a Pegula do something already thread?

 

[DarthEbriate]

7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Do I need to start a Pegula do something already thread?

I fear that'll quickly become the, "Wait, wait. Stop doing something.... Just stand against the wall."

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

new GM Joe Juneau

I'm pretty sure he's available, at least according to Wiki:  "His involvement with the Nunavik hockey program ended in 2017."  Do you really thing he's interested in the step down from Nunavik youth to the Sabres?

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I think our internal shuffle thinking isn't giving Terry enough credit.

How about Marty as head coach? Rob Ray as GM?

Why not?  They're already on the payroll.

[Doohickie]

33 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Do I need to start a Pegula do something already thread?

Again?

[LGR4GM]

43 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

So your saying the Sabres are a dumpster fire floating on a river of crap.