Pimlach Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 There is a positive to this rumor. If true, Pegula is adding a layer that will put more insulation between him and the GM and the Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 41 minutes ago, Pimlach said: There is a positive to this rumor. If true, Pegula is adding a layer that will put more insulation between him and the GM and the Coach. Pretty sure we get that in 2 years, when either Adams or Ruff get named PoHO. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 8 hours ago, Taro T said: Pretty sure we get that in 2 years, when either Adams or Ruff get named PoHO. 😉 You think Ruff will leap frog Adams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 On 5/26/2024 at 7:48 AM, Pimlach said: You think Ruff will leap frog Adams? I'm not @Taro T, but sometimes I play one on TV ... my answer is YES !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 And ... who ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 Pretty much done deal on Waddell to Columbus. Im just intrigued if Buffalo really looked at him because that tells me they are serious about bringing some senior hockey minds into the organization. my number one choice is Dudley but I’ll be interested to hear if they are talking to anyone about a senior advisor role. Maybe they have figured out that when you hire a GM with no experience it would probably help to have a solid vet hockey man to help guide him a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Pretty much done deal on Waddell to Columbus. Im just intrigued if Buffalo really looked at him because that tells me they are serious about bringing some senior hockey minds into the organization. my number one choice is Dudley but I’ll be interested to hear if they are talking to anyone about a senior advisor role. Maybe they have figured out that when you hire a GM with no experience it would probably help to have a solid vet hockey man to help guide him a bit. I love Rick Dudley but he’s 75 years old. Also, not to be a Debbie downer, but there is a real possibility that Sabres’ “interest” in Waddell was leaked in order to expedite and sweeten Columbus’ offer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 (edited) On 5/26/2024 at 6:48 AM, Pimlach said: You think Ruff will leap frog Adams? IF the team does well the next 2 years, expect that Adams becomes the PoHO, one of his 2 primary AGM's moves up (probably Nightengale Karmanos), and Ruff moves into an advisory role to Adams if he's ready to stop coaching. And if Ruff wants to continue coaching for a year or 2, that advisory role remains open waiting for him to fill when he's ready. (Personally expect he'll be ready to move out of the grind in 2 years, but who knows, while Lindy tends to be adaptable to circumstances he also can have a stubborn streak.) IF the team does poorly / treads water the next 2 years, expect that Adams is out, there's a new GM that Ruff has input in choosing if not outright choosing, and Ruff becomes the PoHO. Edited May 27 by Taro T D'oh! Brain fart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 On 5/26/2024 at 6:48 AM, Pimlach said: You think Ruff will leap frog Adams? One could only hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 2 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Pretty much done deal on Waddell to Columbus. Im just intrigued if Buffalo really looked at him because that tells me they are serious about bringing some senior hockey minds into the organization. my number one choice is Dudley but I’ll be interested to hear if they are talking to anyone about a senior advisor role. Maybe they have figured out that when you hire a GM with no experience it would probably help to have a solid vet hockey man to help guide him a bit. Let's have all ex Sabres running this for us... What could go wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, GoPuckYourself said: Let's have all ex Sabres running this for us... What could go wrong? Who is your suggestion for them to bring in who is a better hockey mind than Dudley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said: Let's have all ex Sabres running this for us... What could go wrong? Or players who grew up here. 49 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Who is your suggestion for them to bring in who is a better hockey mind than Dudley? How involved in hockey has Dudley been recently? If he's retired he might not be much help Edited May 27 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Or players who grew up here. How involved in hockey has Dudley been recently? If he's retired he might be much help He was a senior advisor in Carolina and right now he is a senior advisor for Florida. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: He was a senior advisor in Carolina and right now he is a senior advisor for Florida. What a shock that Florida plays exactly like Dudley did. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranky old man Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 Sounds like a rumour spread by Mr. Waddell’s agent. This move makes no sense based on Ownership decisions the last four years. Pegs is keeping it all in the family these days. Others have talked about Lindy moving up in a couple years. That seems much more likely. Pegs has been burned too often and he is going to go with the man who follows his every instruction and brings it in under budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 27 Author Report Share Posted May 27 6 hours ago, Taro T said: IF the team does well the next 2 years, expect that Adams becomes the PoHO, one of his 2 primary AGM's moves up (probably Nightengale), and Ruff moves into an advisory role to Adams if he's ready to stop coaching. And if Ruff wants to continue coaching for a year or 2, that advisory role remains open waiting for him to fill when he's ready. (Personally expect he'll be ready to move out of the grind in 2 years, but who knows, while Lindy tends to be adaptable to circumstances he also can have a stubborn streak.) IF the team does poorly / treads water the next 2 years, expect that Adams is out, there's a new GM that Ruff has input in choosing if not outright choosing, and Ruff becomes the PoHO. Jason Nightengale shouldn’t get any type of promotion, if anything he should be removed from the front office entirely. He and Jerry Forton are two of the least impressive members of the front office and have their positions because of Pegula Nepotism. Giving credit for the Sabres improved drafting over the past few seasons to Forton is the equivalent of giving all the credit for a group project to the person who did the least amount of work. Luca Del Bel Belluz was the Sabres Front Office consensus pick for Pick 41 in 2022, when all of a sudden Topias Leinonen was the name announced. The true sign of a person’s value to a front office is other organizations requesting interviews for open positions, both Jason Karmanos and Sam Ventura have interviewed wit( other teams. Nightengale and Forton have not. A restructured front office should look like POHO-Adams/Ruff or Ruff as Senior Advisor GM Jason Karmanos Associate GM Sam Ventura 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 4 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Who is your suggestion for them to bring in who is a better hockey mind than Dudley? Whoever it is they would need to not be pissing in their depends. Dude is 75 years old, he’s a sr advisor, making him the president is quite a role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 28 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said: Whoever it is they would need to not be pissing in their depends. Dude is 75 years old, he’s a sr advisor, making him the president is quite a role. No one said president. Senior advisor would be the role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Jason Nightengale shouldn’t get any type of promotion, if anything he should be removed from the front office entirely. He and Jerry Forton are two of the least impressive members of the front office and have their positions because of Pegula Nepotism. Giving credit for the Sabres improved drafting over the past few seasons to Forton is the equivalent of giving all the credit for a group project to the person who did the least amount of work. Luca Del Bel Belluz was the Sabres Front Office consensus pick for Pick 41 in 2022, when all of a sudden Topias Leinonen was the name announced. The true sign of a person’s value to a front office is other organizations requesting interviews for open positions, both Jason Karmanos and Sam Ventura have interviewed wit( other teams. Nightengale and Forton have not. A restructured front office should look like POHO-Adams/Ruff or Ruff as Senior Advisor GM Jason Karmanos Associate GM Sam Ventura Apologies. Meant Karmanos. Nightengale didn't "sound" right, but was drawing a complete blank on Karmanos and Ventura. (Been a long weekend crawling around in the attic trying to fix some crud that shouldn't need fixing. And yesterday it was friggin' HOT up there. (Nearly passed out on the ladder getting out of there. That ended THAT job for yesterday.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 17 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: No one said president. Senior advisor would be the role. My bad I misunderstood, yeah for that role I’d love it but highly doubt he’d come over to us when he has a pretty solid gig in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said: My bad I misunderstood, yeah for that role I’d love it but highly doubt he’d come over to us when he has a pretty solid gig in Florida. He does still live in the Buffalo area so who knows. Edited May 27 by Flashsabre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 27 Author Report Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Apologies. Meant Karmanos. Nightengale didn't "sound" right, but was drawing a complete blank on Karmanos and Ventura. (Been a long weekend crawling around in the attic trying to fix some crud that shouldn't need fixing. And yesterday it was friggin' HOT up there. (Nearly passed out on the ladder getting out of there. That ended THAT job for yesterday.) No worries-Mrs Brawndo has me doing a year’s worth of projects during mine severance time. I have to start my new job to relax. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Confirmed from NHL, hired by BJ as President/GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 Waddell will be allowed to sit at the Columbus Draft Table in Vegas as he had little input in the Carolina Draft process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 10 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Waddell will be allowed to sit at the Columbus Draft Table in Vegas as he had little input in the Carolina Draft process. I read an article that said Tulsky basically ran things but didn’t have the people skills to deal with the GM personalities around the league. Waddell was the guy to talk to the other GMs. I would imagine that setup will continue and an old school figurehead will be named Carolina GM and fill the same role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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