WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) This team is in need of a come to hockey God makeover. Here is my list of players that need to go immediately: Jost - Ahl player only Girgs- sorry guy, you bring nothing to the table Olofsson - should have been gone last year. Power - pipe dream I know but he is an embarrassment to the man card. His end of season chat need to start with "Grow a pair" Skinner - time for him to move on. Slow, lazy, defensive liability. Comrie - just not needed, nor good Krebs - not good as 3rd liner just not enough talent. Not to mention we need a good flush of players. What do you think?? Edited March 31 by WhenWillItEnd66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crusader1969 Posted March 31 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 31 My first thought is that anyone who writes off a 20 year old dman hasn't leant the lesson that history keeps teaching over and over and over again. My second thought is you are probably right about Skinner but it's virtually impossible . girgensons does bring something to this team and you need a couple of more guys like him to fill out your 4th line Krebs is a young centre trying to find his way, if he is part of a trade , I won't have any issue with this 9 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: My first thought is that anyone who writes off a 20 year old dman hasn't leant the lesson that history keeps teaching over and over and over again. My second thought is you are probably right about Skinner but it's virtually impossible . girgensons does bring something to this team and you need a couple of more guys like him to fill out your 4th line Krebs is a young centre trying to find his way, if he is part of a trade , I won't have any issue with this Agree with power, but this team needs a kick your ass serious physical defenseman. Someone has to go. Others are better and do not shy from physicality. Like I said, pipe dream and can get a lot better, but you have to give to get. In my eyes that would be power. I even like Joki better then him Edited March 31 by WhenWillItEnd66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 18 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: This team is in need of a come to hockey God makeover. Here is my list of players that need to go immediately: Jost - Ahl player only Girgs- sorry guy, you bring nothing to the table Olofsson - should have been gone last year. Power - pipe dream I know but he is an embarrassment to the man card. His end of season chat need to start with "Grow a pair" Skinner - time for him to move on. Slow, lazy, defensive liability. Comrie - just not needed, nor good Krebs - not good as 3rd liner just not enough talent. Not to mention we need a good flush of players. What do you think?? Everyone but Power can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 To your point: Robinson replaced Jost as the 13th forward and I’m fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Here I think is what we have going into next year XXX. Tage Tuch JJP. Cozens. Quinn Greenway. XXX. Benson Girgs. Krebs. XXX Skinner Robinson ----- 3 positions to be filled , either by trade or UFA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: This team is in need of a come to hockey God makeover. Here is my list of players that need to go immediately: Jost - Ahl player only Girgs- sorry guy, you bring nothing to the table Olofsson - should have been gone last year. Power - pipe dream I know but he is an embarrassment to the man card. His end of season chat need to start with "Grow a pair" Skinner - time for him to move on. Slow, lazy, defensive liability. Comrie - just not needed, nor good Krebs - not good as 3rd liner just not enough talent. Not to mention we need a good flush of players. What do you think?? Picking the 6 worst players on the team saying they don’t need to be here isn’t exactly breaking news. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 7 minutes ago, inkman said: Picking the 6 worst players on the team saying they don’t need to be here isn’t exactly breaking news. Agree. Not saying they are the worst... just those that can be cleared to bring in what can fix this team. Also, must not be too much common sense, they are all still here!!! Edited March 31 by WhenWillItEnd66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Just now, WhenWillItEnd66 said: Agree. Not saying they are the worst... just those that can be cleared to bring in what can fix this team They need to move on from some big names. Power would be a start. Any or all of Dahlin, Thompson and Cozens should be available to anyone asking. I’d trade Skinner to wherever he wants. I don’t care if you have to give away 4 1sts to make it happen. Get that loser off this team. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, inkman said: They need to move on from some big names. Power would be a start. Any or all of Dahlin, Thompson and Cozens should be available to anyone asking. I’d trade Skinner to wherever he wants. I don’t care if you have to give away 4 1sts to make it happen. Get that loser off this team. You know, I am with you here. This team needs a gutting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, inkman said: They need to move on from some big names. Power would be a start. Any or all of Dahlin, Thompson and Cozens should be available to anyone asking. I’d trade Skinner to wherever he wants. I don’t care if you have to give away 4 1sts to make it happen. Get that loser off this team. Before you start with major surgery, wouldn't you want to see what a real coach can do? Yes, changes need to be made- Need more physicality among the bottom but when you start to analyze the issues of this team, it really comes down to poor starts (coaching) and poor PP (again with the talent on the roster I blame coaching ) 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Skinner. You think he’s going to get you into the playoffs ? Golf is this cats middle name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowerYou Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 We need to get rid of the dead weight. We started with Okposo and Johnson. Next is all of the above mentioned except Power. If you’re not scoring or hitting, get off the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 48 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Here I think is what we have going into next year XXX. Tage Tuch JJP. Cozens. Quinn Greenway. XXX. Benson Girgs. Krebs. XXX Skinner Robinson ----- 3 positions to be filled , either by trade or UFA I’m sure we’d see fresh, new kids in those roster spots if they become available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Dahlin has played 41% of even strength minutes and is a -7, a team worst -11.53 trpm. Power has played 35% of even strength minutes and is a +3, -0.85 trpm. Power is not the problem. Cozens, Thompson and Dahlin are bottom 3 in trpm. The fact those 3 get outscored at even strength and are part of an anemic power play is the problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 "Should" is the key word here.....Unfortunately players that "will" be on the team will be a different story. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Dahlin has played 41% of even strength minutes and is a -7, a team worst -11.53 trpm. Dahlin is seriously overplayed. He looks gassed by the second period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 56 minutes ago, Weave said: I’m sure we’d see fresh, new kids in those roster spots if they become available. Of course they will become available, there is no competition for them. Given everything Adams has said and done we could be younger next year. 55 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Dahlin has played 41% of even strength minutes and is a -7, a team worst -11.53 trpm. Power has played 35% of even strength minutes and is a +3, -0.85 trpm. Power is not the problem. Cozens, Thompson and Dahlin are bottom 3 in trpm. The fact those 3 get outscored at even strength and are part of an anemic power play is the problem. Dahlin is overplayed. Tage and Cozens have struggled this year and that has to change next season is this team is going anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Weave said: I’m sure we’d see fresh, new kids in those roster spots if they become available. That does worry me but I just have to believe that at least 2 if not all 3 holes are plugged by vets. They just cannot afford to get younger another year in AHL for Kulich and Savoie is probably best for everyone. Though both could be used as injury callups and hopefully ready to fill in at and play at a high level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I'd be curious to know Dahlin's +/- with the Sabres goalie pulled this season. Despite a career high in goals scored, he's not having the dynamic season he had last year. However, he's got a higher Corsi 5-on-5 than last season, and more blocked shots and hits. An average powerplay would have him closer to 70 points. He probably still tries to do too much and occasionally blows an assignment like every other defender. But overall, having the forwards do their jobs and finding a legitimate 2nd D pairing will be the things that make Dahlin a Norris contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranky old man Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Power needs work there is no doubt, but unless he is a trade piece( rather move Sammuelsson) it is too soon to give up on him. Jost, Comrie, Olofsson are on expiring contracts I believe——their time is done. I’m not against Girgs coming back though his spot could use an upgrade. Kulich, Rosen, R Johnson, Weissbach, Novikov, Murray; bring up the youngbloods! Trade Dylan C for a talented veteran and get some sand paper. Goal is set with UPL(new 3yr contract) and Levi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: Before you start with major surgery, wouldn't you want to see what a real coach can do? Yes, changes need to be made- Need more physicality among the bottom but when you start to analyze the issues of this team, it really comes down to poor starts (coaching) and poor PP (again with the talent on the roster I blame coaching ) They need more physicality from the top players. And the bottom players. And the prospects. And the draft picks. There is nooooone in any of those guys. Getting rid of Granato may help but it won’t fix this team’s fundamental flaws. They play like they aren’t allowed to touch anyone. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 22 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: I'd be curious to know Dahlin's +/- with the Sabres goalie pulled this season. Despite a career high in goals scored, he's not having the dynamic season he had last year. However, he's got a higher Corsi 5-on-5 than last season, and more blocked shots and hits. An average powerplay would have him closer to 70 points. He probably still tries to do too much and occasionally blows an assignment like every other defender. But overall, having the forwards do their jobs and finding a legitimate 2nd D pairing will be the things that make Dahlin a Norris contender. I’m also curious how often Dahlin puts the puck directly on the opponents stick in prime scoring areas. We know he’s good for at least one goal to go off some part of him and them directly into the net several times a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I just want Skinner gone. That's it. Jost, Girgs, Olofsson who cares, not relevant, should be upgraded, should be waived, they are all non entities to me with no value. Robinson, Krebs, Bryson, who cares? Pretty much the same marginal value. Just get rid of Skinner, upgrade the bottom end, and then all of these mutts become irrelevant. Now who is this Comrie guy? Never heard of him. Does he play for them? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, OverPowerYou said: We need to get rid of the dead weight. We started with Okposo and Johnson. Next is all of the above mentioned except Power. If you’re not scoring or hitting, get off the team Or if you get scored on more than you score, get off the team. 2 hours ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: Dahlin is seriously overplayed. He looks gassed by the second period. 1 hour ago, Pimlach said: Of course they will become available, there is no competition for them. Given everything Adams has said and done we could be younger next year. Dahlin is overplayed. Tage and Cozens have struggled this year and that has to change next season is this team is going anywhere. If your $11 million dollar player is on the ice “too much” maybe he’s the wrong player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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