Randall Flagg Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Rob ray said in the pre game it's the players They voted on the 1-2-2 dump, chase, 'n grind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Razor knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 They voted on the 1-2-2 dump, chase, 'n grind? The players play the game that the coach dictates. I am convinced that we do not have the right players to play Dan's style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The players play the game that the coach dictates. I am convinced that we do not have the right players to play Dan's style.Then he should change his style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The players play the game that the coach dictates. I am convinced that we do not have the right players to play Dan's style. His style is absolute trash no matter which players play it. It shows every single playoff that possession destroys teams that don't want it. It did nothing with the two best players in the world. And the coach has to change the system to the players he has. It's how it works. I don't want a successful Bylsma system with its prototypical players like Kane and Dustin Brown and Beau Bennett and Dwight King and the like leading the way. It won't ever get us anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinFL Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Didn't Gionta call one or two captain's meetings by this point last year? Has he called one this year? If not, could that be an indicator that Gionta and the rest of the team don't think that anything can fix what the issue is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The players play the game that the coach dictates. I am convinced that we do not have the right players to play Dan's style. No team has the right players to play Dan's style. Dump and chase can work, but it requires two things: 1) the right players (which you are right, we don't have) and 2) an aggressive forecheck, which Dan does not implement more than like 5% of the time. We need to run an aggressive forecheck to retrieve pucks, especially since we don't have the players to do it naturally. Watch LA: yes, they play(ed) suffocating hockey and owned the puck in the offensive zone after dumping it in...but they did it with a heavy, two-man forecheck with strong support to regain and maintain control. The fact that Bylsma is not doing this is a huge knock against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Gonna be like this all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Bylsma is trash and he won't survive the season. I'm starting to think about a new GM too. The roster Tim has put together is garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 This really is just some whiny crybaby sh!t. My team didn't win! Waaaaaah! It's gotta be someone's fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 If Dan is Murray's guy and the GM thinks Dan can get him his cup (not just another cusp) then the roster will be changed and built to be LA east. Last time I checked they have done pretty well that last few years. Dare I say we may end up looking a lot like the Bruins in 2010/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 This really is just some whiny crybaby sh!t. My team didn't win! Waaaaaah! It's gotta be someone's fault! Well, yeah. The team sucks, and someone is responsible If Dan is Murray's guy and the GM thinks Dan can get him his cup (not just another cusp) then the roster will be changed and built to be LA east. Last time I checked they have done pretty well that last few years. Dare I say we may end up looking a lot like the Bruins in 2010/11. I don't think Dan is Murray's guy. I think Dan is Pegula's guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 This really is just some whiny crybaby sh!t. My team didn't win! Waaaaaah! It's gotta be someone's fault! You're so incredibly full of . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 No team has the right players to play Dan's style. Dump and chase can work, but it requires two things: 1) the right players (which you are right, we don't have) and 2) an aggressive forecheck, which Dan does not implement more than like 5% of the time. We need to run an aggressive forecheck to retrieve pucks, especially since we don't have the players to do it naturally. Watch LA: yes, they play(ed) suffocating hockey and owned the puck in the offensive zone after dumping it in...but they did it with a heavy, two-man forecheck with strong support to regain and maintain control. The fact that Bylsma is not doing this is a huge knock against him.Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I don't think Dan is Murray's guy. I think Dan is Pegula's guy If that were true Murray would have bolted a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 This really is just some whiny crybaby sh!t. My team didn't win! Waaaaaah! It's gotta be someone's fault! Great counter. 13 of 35. Dead last even strength by a big margin. Everything's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 If that were true Murray would have bolted a long time ago.Like Whaley did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) You're so incredibly full of ######. Can we please just stop saying that we have all the talent that we need and it's just the coaching? When Boston decided to take over, the could do what ever they wanted and it had nothing to do with coaching. Edited December 30, 2016 by SwampD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Can we please just stop saying that we have all the talent that we need and it's just the coaching? When Boston decided to take over, the could do what e Ed they wanted and it had nothing to do with coaching.I don't think anyone in the league would take Boston's roster over ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Can we please just stop saying that we have all the talent that we need and it's just the coaching? When Boston decided to take over, the could do what ever they wanted and it had nothing to do with coaching. Can we please find a single, solitary post where anybody says this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Can we please find a single, solitary post where anybody says this?this is a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 this is a joke, right? Absolutely not. Find me a post where somebody asserts the roster construction is complete and we're ready to compete for a Cup. Find it, I beg you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Can we please just stop saying that we have all the talent that we need and it's just the coaching? When Boston decided to take over, the could do what ever they wanted and it had nothing to do with coaching. We don't have everything we need. We do have enough players to not be dead-last in scoring when not on the peeper. To not be unable to control the puck against any opponent, good or bad. Either Jack carries, or a defenseman stretches. Boston decides to start playing, and our players are fully aware that they won't get the puck back and when they do, players won't be where they need to be to efficiently move it up the ice with control. We lose it, Boston takes it, moves up the ice as a unit, knows how to actually play hockey, and the game is over like I called before the 3rd even started. Edited December 30, 2016 by Randall Flagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Like Whaley did? Whaley isn't a 'football guy', right? Murray is a 'hockey guy'. No comparison between the two, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Whaley isn't a 'football guy', right? Murray is a 'hockey guy'. No comparison between the two, IMO. Whaley is a football guy? I believe he played football and has been involved in it his whole life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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