What to do with Moulson?

[LGR4GM]

I am sticking with my prediction of 18 goals. I hope he beats that mark. I really do.

[Samson's Flow]

I am sticking with my prediction of 18 goals. I hope he beats that mark. I really do.

Well he already has 4 goals in 5 games. I'd think he should be able to luck into 14 more goals in the remaining 77 games, but stranger things have happened.

[Randall Flagg]

Well he already has 4 goals in 5 games. I'd think he should be able to luck into 14 more goals in the remaining 77 games, but stranger things have happened.

He had two goals in his first couple games last year, didn't he? And then like 2 in the next 60 or 70 games? It's certainly possible that happens again.

[Samson's Flow]

He had two goals in his first couple games last year, didn't he? And then like 2 in the next 60 or 70 games? It's certainly possible that happens again.

Certainly possible. But my counterpoint is it will be pretty difficult to push him out of a top 6 role given the injuries to our roster and his production thus far. Last year his decline came because we had Eichel, Reinhart, Kane, ROR etc. far more deserving of top 6 minutes than Matty Mo. I don't see guys like Larsson, Girgs or any of the young forwards making a more compelling case than Moulson.

[pi2000]

Let's pretend Moulson manages to maintain his 30-40g scoring pace on a line with O'Reilly and Okposo.  

 

What happens when Eichel and Kane return?     Do you go Reinhart/Eichel/Kane?    But what if Ennis and Reinhart are producing?     Put Kane on the 3rd line?  

 

i really wish we would've moved Kane for defensive help by this point.   

[Samson's Flow]

Let's pretend Moulson manages to maintain his 30-40g scoring pace on a line with O'Reilly and Okposo.  

 

What happens when Eichel and Kane return?     Do you go Reinhart/Eichel/Kane?    But what if Ennis and Reinhart are producing?     Put Kane on the 3rd line?  

 

i really wish we would've moved Kane for defensive help by this point.   

I think quite a few of us around here would love to see Kane on the 3rd line. His tenacious forecheck and "lone wolf" offensive game would be great for the 3rd line since it wouldn't handicap the top two lines.

[Randall Flagg]

Let's pretend Moulson manages to maintain his 30-40g scoring pace on a line with O'Reilly and Okposo.

 

What happens when Eichel and Kane return? Do you go Reinhart/Eichel/Kane? But what if Ennis and Reinhart are producing? Put Kane on the 3rd line?

 

i really wish we would've moved Kane for defensive help by this point.

I go Kane - Larsson - Foligno on the third line, in your scenario.

[Samson's Flow]

I go Kane - Larsson - Foligno on the third line, in your scenario.

Exactamundo.

[Drunkard]

If he scores 30, he's either getting protected, or traded at the deadline.    They won't lose a 30g scorer for nothing.

 

I predicted 30g in the bold prediction thread and got lambasted for it... so you better believe you're all going to hear about it when he's lighting the lamp  :P

 

If Moulson was on an expiring contract I could definitely see a team picking him up at the trade deadline but with 2 more additional years I find it highly unlikely.

[That Aud Smell]

The world is such a funny place.

 

Had I been told weeks ago that Moulson would have 4 goals through 5 games, I'd have been all 'sign me up!'

 

Not so much, turns out.

[pi2000]

If Moulson was on an expiring contract I could definitely see a team picking him up at the trade deadline but with 2 more additional years I find it highly unlikely.

 

Whoever we trade him to can expose him the expansion draft or do whatever they want with him.    I guarantee every single cup contender will be knocking down GMTMs door to get their hands on a 30g scoring version of Matt Moulson, if for nothing else than to bolster their power play for a Cup run.

[That Aud Smell]

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That contract, though.

[Thorny]

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That contract, though.

 

Ya, I mean, the team acquiring him may have a hard time getting rid of him if that's the path they choose to take. It limits the team taking on his contract. 

Edited October 26, 2016 by Thorny

[Randall Flagg]

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That contract, though.

Yeah, no way they do that. Especially not as a deadline addition.

 

Vegas is our best shot, I think. Keep giving Moulson that PP time, DD.

[Sabel79]

The world is such a funny place.

Had I been told weeks ago that Moulson would have 4 goals through 5 games, I'd have been all 'sign me up!'

Not so much, turns out.

Whoever wished for this obviously did so with a monkey's paw.

[Tondas]

What to do with Moulson?  At this point, with our offense, clone him.

[Wyldnwoody44]

Get more power plays!!!

[atoq]

I see Moulson keeping this pace and they'll have to protect him in expansion draft. They can't lose a 30g scorer for nothing. But why stop there? Let's extend him to a 5x5 to lock him up until he's 40 before his value skyrockets leading team canada to gold in Pyeongchang. I only worry he'll lose the motivation to get better with the fat paychecks because of his questionable character. Lets not forget he quit his education after cornell to cash in playing hockey.

[Drunkard]

Whoever we trade him to can expose him the expansion draft or do whatever they want with him.    I guarantee every single cup contender will be knocking down GMTMs door to get their hands on a 30g scoring version of Matt Moulson, if for nothing else than to bolster their power play for a Cup run.

 

You are full of it. You can't guarantee anything and most of the team that are contenders for the cup won't have the space to add a $5 million winger that scores most of his points on the power play who is already on the decline age wise and still has 2 years left on his contract. So not only would the market for him likely be extremely limited, I highly doubt the few GM's that would even be interested would be knocking down the door to try to pry him off our roster. I'm as happy as anyone that he's back to producing but your ballwashing on his behalf is reaching ridiculous levels.

Edited October 27, 2016 by Drunkard

[LGR4GM]

I see Moulson keeping this pace and they'll have to protect him in expansion draft. They can't lose a 30g scorer for nothing. But why stop there? Let's extend him to a 5x5 to lock him up until he's 40 before his value skyrockets leading team canada to gold in Pyeongchang. I only worry he'll lose the motivation to get better with the fat paychecks because of his questionable character. Lets not forget he quit his education after cornell to cash in playing hockey.

Haha, perfect

[pi2000]

You are full of it. You can't guarantee anything and most of the team that are contenders for the cup won't have the space to add a $5 million winger that scores most of his points on the power play who is already on the decline age wise and still has 2 years left on his contract. So not only would the market for him likely be extremely limited, I highly doubt the few GM's that would even be interested would be knocking down the door to try to pry him off our roster. I'm as happy as anyone that he's back to producing but your ballwashing on his behalf is reaching ridiculous levels.

 

So you think every single playoff team this season will be within $5mil of the cap?  Blashpemy!

 

There absolutely will be some playoff out there that has the cap space and needs not only a weapon on the PP,  but a veteran presence in the locker room.    

 

If NSH can give us a 1st for Gaustad, there's no telling what some team might offer for a 30 goal scoring PP specialist.

[Randall Flagg]

The NHL is different now than it was when we got a 1st for goose. That stuff doesn't happen anymore.

 

With Moulson's contract we should be thrilled to get a 7th for him.

[That Aud Smell]

If NSH can give us a 1st for Gaustad, there's no telling what some team might offer for a 30 goal scoring PP specialist.

 

There was a good article on this subject earlier this year during the trade deadline. That market is not what it used to be. The days of getting a 1st for a guy like Gaustad are gone. Jiri Hudler moved this past deadline, and only fetched a 2nd and a 4th (in different years).

[pi2000]

The NHL is different now than it was when we got a 1st for goose. That stuff doesn't happen anymore.

 

With Moulson's contract we should be thrilled to get a 7th for him.

 

There was a good article on this subject earlier this year during the trade deadline. That market is not what it used to be. The days of getting a 1st for a guy like Gaustad are gone. Jiri Hudler moved this past deadline, and only fetched a 2nd and a 4th (in different years).

 

Back then we thought there was no way in hell we would get 1st for Goose.... a 2nd?  Maybe.    However, NSH saw him as a missing piece essential to their Cup run.    That's all it takes is one team to lock in on him as a key piece... and there aren't many guys in the league like him who can bury on the PP, so there will be a market for him.     And I'm not saying we're going to get a first.... my point is that if he's on a 30g pace, near the top of the league in PP goals, there will a team willing to trade something for him, which is much much better than letting him go to Vegas for nothing in the summer.

[Randall Flagg]

Back then we thought there was no way in hell we would get 1st for Goose.... a 2nd? Maybe. However, NSH saw him as a missing piece essential to their Cup run. That's all it takes is one team to lock in on him as a key piece... and there aren't many guys in the league like him who can bury on the PP, so there will be a market for him. And I'm not saying we're going to get a first.... my point is that if he's on a 30g pace, near the top of the league in PP goals, there will a team willing to trade something for him, which is much much better than letting him go to Vegas for nothing in the summer.

I hope you're right, though I would definitely celebrate losing him for nothing to Vegas too :lol: