Trettioåtta Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 The league has said you can protect 7F, 3D and 1G or 8 skaters and 1 G. Players who are in their first two years of ELC are not eligible, nor are prospects. Who do you protect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 In Friedman's 30 thoughts, there was a GM quote that implied that since the NHL hates NMCs, they expect them to be required to take up a spot on the teams' lists of protected players. Eichel and Reinhart will be safe, and I think Ullmark will too, so I go: Forwards O'ReillyEnnis Kane Larsson Girgensons Foligno Player acquired between now and then via UFA/trade Defensemen Risto Bogo McCabe/Pysyk(I'd hope for a Bogo trade and a better LHD to take Bogo's spot, then I'd pick whichever of Pysyk/McCabe develop better between now and then for the other spot)Lehner as the protected goalie, obviously. Sam, Jack, Guhle, Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, and 2016 first round pick will all be protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottosmagic13 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Who do you think we could get for Bogo that wouldn't involve giving up someone that you would like to protect? I for one wouldn't mind Ennis in a package for someone, but would that be enough to get someone better than Bogo? Forwards: O'Reilly Girgensons Ennis Deslauriers Foligno Defense: Risto Pysyk Bogo (the rest are meh in my opinion) Goal: Lehner (is there even a chance of loosing Johnson if Lehner protected?) Same disclaimer about the young'uns being automatically protected. Edited March 17, 2016 by Ottosmagic13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Who do you think we could get for Bogo that wouldn't involve giving up someone that you would like to protect? Forwards: O'Reilly Girgensons Ennis (although I wouldn't mind seeing him gone as a part of a blockbuster D trade) Deslauriers Foligno Defense: Risto Pysyk Bogo (the rest are meh in my opinion) Goal: Lehner (is there even a chance of loosing Johnson if Lehner protected?) Same disclaimer about the young'uns being automatically protected. I doubt it when there are tandems of Elliot/Allen, Gibson/Andersen, Bishop/Vasilevskiy etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Come back next Summer on this topic, for its rumoured the league won't touch players with NMC, they won't count against the players you can protect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I doubt it when there are tandems of Elliot/Allen, Gibson/Andersen, Bishop/Vasilevskiy etc If I am an expansion team, Vasilevsky is in my top 3 possible GT options. Would depend on who else TB doesn't protect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 If I am an expansion team, Vasilevsky is in my top 3 possible GT options. Would depend on who else TB doesn't protect. If I'm TB, I protect Vasilevsky, seeing you are already in cap hell, let bishop get claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Come back next Summer on this topic, for its rumoured the league won't touch players with NMC, they won't count against the players you can protect. Are you sure? This is the opposite of what I had read: teams can't expose players with a NMC and they count against the protected cap. If that's true, and a NTC is handled the same as a NMC, we'll not only have to protect Bogosian, but...Gorges. If that's how it works, I will pay a team to take Gorges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Are you sure? This is the opposite of what I had read: teams can't expose players with a NMC and they count against the protected cap. If that's true, and a NTC is handled the same as a NMC, we'll not only have to protect Bogosian, but...Gorges. If that's how it works, I will pay a team to take Gorges. Guess I read that differently then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 GMTM just said on the radio that the Sabres have players with limited no trade clauses, but no one with a NMC off the top of his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 GMTM just said on the radio that the Sabres have players with limited no trade clauses, but no one with a NMC off the top of his head. This belongs in the awesome thread. I want to do cartwheels around the block right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 This belongs in the awesome thread. I want to do cartwheels around the block right now. You're not getting rid of Bogo that easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 You're not getting rid of Bogo that easily I know, but just having the option makes me feel better. Let me have this one thing dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bogo has looked good as of late. Not a true top 2 d-man, but the guy, when playing healthy, does belong in the top 4. Very mobile and can provide a decent shot. Hasn't he been playing w/ some type of lower body injury all season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Who do you think we could get for Bogo that wouldn't involve giving up someone that you would like to protect? I for one wouldn't mind Ennis in a package for someone, but would that be enough to get someone better than Bogo? Forwards: O'Reilly Girgensons Ennis Deslauriers Foligno Defense: Risto Pysyk Bogo (the rest are meh in my opinion) Goal: Lehner (is there even a chance of loosing Johnson if Lehner protected?) Same disclaimer about the young'uns being automatically protected. Skaters: O'Reilly, Eichel, Reinhart, Larsson, Kane, Girgensons, Ristolainen, Pysyk. And Lehner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 isn't that only 2 D men? why not opt for the 7F and 3D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 In all of the discussions about potential expansion draft rules, a couple execs warned the “25 per cent rule” did not get enough play. If you spend to the projected ceiling of $74 million, you’ll have to expose at least $18.5 million of unprotected salary. That’s not going to be easy, especially if players with no-move clauses can’t be exposed. Lol this might suck even more for rebuilding teams like the sabres and the leafs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Can we just give them Moulson and be done with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Can we just give them Moulson and be done with it? Sadly he has a NTC I think. Modified NTC according to generalfanager.com Edited March 23, 2016 by Huckleberry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Lol this might suck even more for rebuilding teams like the sabres and the leafs. Assuming NTCs don't have to be protected (which is currently unclear), Moulson+Gorges+Bogosian puts us at $14 million. The spare parts that get exposed will cover the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Would the 25%/18.5MM be AAV or the player's salary for the specific expansion year? AAV would make sense since we're talking 25% of the cap and AAV=cap hit. However, it wouldn't be the most accurate representation of what the expansion team would really be paying the exposed player, right? But it would still be the accurate representation of the cap hit they'll take on if those contracts transfer 1:1. Take Moulson for example: his 2017-18 salary will be $3MM, but his cap hit is $5MM. Hopefully he'd count $5MM towards our minimum exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Assuming NTCs don't have to be protected (which is currently unclear), Moulson+Gorges+Bogosian puts us at $14 million. The spare parts that get exposed will cover the rest. HahahahahahahahahahBogoHahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Tim Murray smirks at Harrington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 HahahahahahahahahahBogoHahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Tim Murray smirks at Harrington You're really not gonna let me have this one, are you? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Are we sure that the likes of Eichel and Reinhart will be exempt from needing to be protected? If expansion was taking place let's say for the '17-'18 season, those two would be heading into the 3rd year of their ELCs. Aren't the only players exempt those on the first 2 years of said contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Are we sure that the likes of Eichel and Reinhart will be exempt from needing to be protected? If expansion was taking place let's say for the '17-'18 season, those two would be heading into the 3rd year of their ELCs. Aren't the only players exempt those on the first 2 years of said contracts? According to friedman they will be excempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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