LastPommerFan Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I find that absolutely amazing. Cars have just never been important to me. I didn't own one until I got married and only then because my wife brought one into the marriage. Before that I took the bus to work and lived in an area where I could walk to everything I needed. And I'm not talking Manhattan or DC here, I'm talking mid-sized Midwestern cities. To me, cars are an unfortunate necessity that literally run on money, support for unfriendly people, and environmental destruction. But I also totally understand people who enjoy them. Absolutely wouldn't recommend my way unless you were already predisposed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Yes I'm talking about the car, for those with minds in the gutter *cough chz cough* ;) I recently bought a WRX and its a stick, and I just wanted to get a a feel for those who prefer manual shifting vs auto. Auto is nice for eating while driving and extracurricular activities, however I've got my multi tasking while driving down to a fine art in the subaru. Rant away I would never drive anything but a standard. Love having the ability to control my car like you can in a standard. My commute into DC is a pain in the As@, but wouldn't trade it for the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Every car I've owned since I was in high school has been a manual. Driving an automatic just ruins the fun of driving. There are times I get a rental car while on vacation and within the first 10 minutes of driving it I'll slam my face into the steering wheel by hitting the brake really hard with my left foot while looking for the clutch. Current Cars: 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, 2008 Mini Cooper S. I just pictured that in my head and had to laugh. I bet that happens more often than people think. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Cars have just never been important to me. I didn't own one until I got married and only then because my wife brought one into the marriage. Before that I took the bus to work and lived in an area where I could walk to everything I needed. And I'm not talking Manhattan or DC here, I'm talking mid-sized Midwestern cities. To me, cars are an unfortunate necessity that literally run on money, support for unfriendly people, and environmental destruction. But I also totally understand people who enjoy them. Absolutely wouldn't recommend my way unless you were already predisposed to it. I recommend your old ways. All the non-drivers I know are tough b@stards. It's all the driving that makes 'mericans soft. That said, I've got a Civic Si, with a rally style shifter (manual with the shifter beneath the radio), and I think that all these floor shifters are quite simply barbarians. I say, if you ain't shifting rally style, you may as well be walking (with a limp). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Neither here nor there, but I don't even think you *can* get a WRX with an auto. When I was car shopping three years ago the only option for that can was a 5 speed. Good to see a company tell people how things should be and actually be right about it :lol: You can now, the local Subaru dealership has nothing but Automatic WRXs. Good thing the STI is still only available in a manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Dealerships here in LA almost refuse to stock manuals. There's either no demand or there's a perception that there's no demand, probably because of traffic or something. It's insanity. There's a lot of insanity in the LA automobiling experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I am in the crowd that find manuals fun and if I had a 2nd car it would be one... but I would never want one as my everyday car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Dealerships here in LA almost refuse to stock manuals. There's either no demand or there's a perception that there's no demand, probably because of traffic or something. It's insanity. There's a lot of insanity in the LA automobiling experience. Traffic jams, as stated above, are the bane of clutch pushers. My leg seriously gets tired, which makes the traffic jam that much more unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagBoy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I've never owned an automatic transmission. Standards are a bit annoying in heavy traffic, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I recognize that avatar. Do you know Arden Farms, out your former way, in Billington Heights? They are of Elbert Hubbard stock apparently. Shame about the Lusitania sinking. RIP. Echo your transmission comments, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Cars have just never been important to me. I didn't own one until I got married and only then because my wife brought one into the marriage. Before that I took the bus to work and lived in an area where I could walk to everything I needed. And I'm not talking Manhattan or DC here, I'm talking mid-sized Midwestern cities. To me, cars are an unfortunate necessity that literally run on money, support for unfriendly people, and environmental destruction. But I also totally understand people who enjoy them. Absolutely wouldn't recommend my way unless you were already predisposed to it. I agree that they are huge money suckers, for sure. And my apologies if I sounded judgmental, I was just surprised to see that - hopefully I didn't imply anything unintended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagBoy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I recognize that avatar. Do you know Arden Farms, out your former way, in Billington Heights? They are of Elbert Hubbard stock apparently. Shame about the Lusitania sinking. RIP. Echo your transmission comments, BTW. I was 8 when we left East Aurora. I don’t remember Arden Farms by name, but I remember every fall my family used to go to some place nearby where they made incredible apple cider. We got to watch them squeeze it, and they showed us the whole process of making cider. We always took a few gallons home (non-alcoholic), and that stuff was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well, the old neighborhood is doing well by my estimation, even if it's not making anybody extremely rich, but it would be a good place to come back to and retire, if you ever feel like doing the whole Norman Rockwell thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I agree with those that mentioned rush hour traffic. I'd forgo a manual for that reason alone and take an automatic. My leg used to cramp up something fierce in Vancouver traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Considering this is my ideal form of transport, I know what I want in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'd like a Ranchero that made good mileage, and looked cool. The long hood might be part of that, but some of it could be storage space. The car/truck has always fascinated me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'd like a Ranchero that made good mileage, and looked cool. The long hood might be part of that, but some of it could be storage space. The car/truck has always fascinated me. A Ute? Always wished we'd get Australia's sacred cow here in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I drive an automatic 4-cyl hatchback. My wife's minivan is really fun to drive because, although it's still an auto, and much larger, it's the very first 6-cyl I've ever driven. I feel like Mario Andretti when I roll out onto 5 & 20. How can you feel like that if you don't drive manual ? :D My response as someone from a country where you can't get your licence without learning to drive manual. (exceptions are made for disabled people) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 A Ute? Always wished we'd get Australia's sacred cow here in the US. drool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Considering this is my ideal form of transport, I know what I want in a car. I just sold my '70 Newport. Loved it to pieces, but was a b/tch in the winter. I have a manual Wrangler now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaught Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 A Ute? Always wished we'd get Australia's sacred cow here in the US. Just looks like a modernized El Camino to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 My parents both drove/drive manuals only, so that's what I learned on. Driving an automatic feels like I'm missing some level of control. I've had manual Jeeps, Subarus, etc. Really wish that the European-spec Forester with the six-speed manual and boxer diesel would be offered here in the US. I will say that, if I were to ever have a long stop-and-go commute, I would probably purchase an automatic. I'd hate it the rest of the time, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 As much as I love manuals, there's no arguing that the latest production cars with the 8 speed autos are much quicker in a drag race than the same car with a manual. First, there is the inherent mechanical advantage - with 8 speeds there are more gear ratios to keep optimum power/torque flowing to the drive wheels than with a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission. Plus the current computer controlled auto transmissions shift in mere milliseconds at full throttle - faster than a human can shift. And the shifts are always the same and always consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Auto....all cars, all the time. I bought one manual mitsu Eclipse turbo years ago....falling into the thinking of thinking of "sporty cars are meant to be driven with a manual"....but i didnt get that feeling when i had it, Ease of use, comfort, and with todays tech, I'll take also the added performance and efficiency of the Auto over the manual (most Auto cars now out perform their manual equipped counterparts, espeically with DSG's and 6-8 speed autos). Also, if I had a performance car, I want to just hit the gas and enjoy the feeling of pure acceleration with my mind only on steering or modulating the gas to reduce wheel-spin...I don't need the extra 'sensation' of shifting gears to enjoy the acceleration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I agree that they are huge money suckers, for sure. And my apologies if I sounded judgmental, I was just surprised to see that - hopefully I didn't imply anything unintended. I understand what you're saying. I'm fully aware that my relationship with the automobile is abnormal, bordering on un-American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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