Weave Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Yes. Let me elaborate. They've got three good centers, a couple wingers in their top 6 with size, grit, toughness, and skill, a top shelf shutdown defenseman, a couple clutch scorers in their top 6, and a goaltending tandem second to none in the league. We have 1 good center, no wingers in the top 6 that play with any grit, a defense that is a couple years away from showing their true level, no clutch scorers in the playoffs, and a starting goalie that is a half notch behind theirs. They are a bit better in every position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Like The Menace said, we were 4-1-1 against them. They had three more wins. They scored one more goal. We allowed 34 more Our PP was 9th, theirs was 20th Our PK was 13th, theirs was 16th Our goalie won the Vezina last year. Theirs will win it this year. Their leading scorer had 30 goals and 62 points. Ours had 32 goals and 73 points. They had four 20 goal scorers. We had four 20 goal scorers They were one OT goal from being knocked out in the first round. We were one OT goal from winning the first round We need to get better. But cup winners don't have to be great anymore, just good enough at the right time. We are not that far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Let me elaborate. They've got three good centers, a couple wingers in their top 6 with size, grit, toughness, and skill, a top shelf shutdown defenseman, a couple clutch scorers in their top 6, and a goaltending tandem second to none in the league. We have 1 good center, no wingers in the top 6 that play with any grit, a defense that is a couple years away from showing their true level, no clutch scorers in the playoffs, and a starting goalie that is a half notch behind theirs. They are a bit better in every position. One thing - Buffalo is faster. Boston is pretty slow. Boston is a team built for crap ice. Nothing has neutralized Vancouver's speed and passing game like that sludge they are playing on in Beantown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 You honestly think Boston is that much better than us? They are better when it counts. Thats all that matters. I called them to make the finals. I never believed for a minute that Buffalo would make the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 They are better when it counts. Thats all that matters. I called them to make the finals. I never believed for a minute that Buffalo would make the finals. That is why I mentioned clutch scoring as a plus for them and lacking for us. Boston has a number of players that just know how to get it done. We don't. Boston was a favorite in the East of many prognosticators. Noone seriously suggested Buffalo. Like I said, we are about 3 of the right players away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Based on this year's rosters Miller vs Thomas — pick 'em Rask is better than Enroth Chara is better than Myers, for now Kaberle = Leopold Ference Boychuk Siedenberg McQuaid are tougher to play against than Sekera Butler Weber Monty, but it's nothing we can't close with one solid acquisition. Vanek > Lucic Stafford = Horton Pominville > Recchi Kaleta < Marchand Ennis > Ryder Boyes = Peverley Hecht = Kelly Gerbe > Paille Our wingers are better Their centres are clearly better, but it's not like they have a franchise guy. Upgrade Connolly and Monty with guys that have some grit and we are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Upgrade Connolly, Hecht (as a center) and Monty with guys that have some grit and we are there. I'd happily quibble about some of your matchups but it doesn't really matter to the point overall. You can make all kinds of one-on-one matchups with other teams still not playing and make it look like several of them are "real close" when they likely aren't. Our forwards have different attributes than theirs. Ours look real nice in the stat category on March 31. Theirs are getting it done when ours couldn't against backup quality goaltending. Like I said, we are about 3 players away. Pretty significant in my book when we are talking about a top center, a number 2 quality center, and a top 2 defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 No Hockey point....but does anyone else think that Claude Julien looks like Nikita Khruschev. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSkhrushchev.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I'd happily quibble about some of your matchups but it doesn't really matter to the point overall. You can make all kinds of one-on-one matchups with other teams still not playing and make it look like several of them are "real close" when they likely aren't. Our forwards have different attributes than theirs. Ours look real nice in the stat category on March 31. Theirs are getting it done when ours couldn't against backup quality goaltending. Like I said, we are about 3 players away. Pretty significant in my book when we are talking about a top center, a number 2 quality center, and a top 2 defenseman. Can't argue with where they are, or that they have more grit. But if Montreal scores in OT of game seven and your argument gets pretty thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Can't argue with where they are, or that they have more grit. But if Montreal scores in OT of game seven and your argument gets pretty thin. And your argument is *at least* equally thin when you base it on an "if". ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Boston outplayed Vancouver in Game 1, IMO. I didn't see Game 2. Vancouver is in trouble. And we're all in danger of smugness emanating from the general direction of Massachusetts Bay. It's funny how many people are attempting to pass themselves of as longtime hockey fans around here right now. And you know, for all the complaining (speaking of complaining...) I've done over the years about Jack Edwards, I finally get it. He's just giving the fans exactly what they want, the vilification of every single aspect of the opposing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Can't argue with where they are, or that they have more grit. But if Montreal scores in OT of game seven and your argument gets pretty thin. But they didn't. And the Blackhawks couldn't get that 1 additional goal and the 'Nucks staved off the epic collapse. And Butler couldn't keep from grabbing the Phlyer and Filly scored on the pp and again in OT. And, and, and ... Not sure where I'm going w/ this. Just that the Sabres aren't in the Bruins class at present, but 2-4 moves and they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 It's funny how many people are attempting to pass themselves of as longtime hockey fans around here right now. And you know, for all the complaining (speaking of complaining...) I've done over the years about Jack Edwards, I finally get it. He's just giving the fans exactly what they want, the vilification of every single aspect of the opposing team. I hate the Bruins.....he's so over the top that it's embarrassing for anyone in hockey. I'm waiting for him to get replaced by Gorilla Monsoon someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 But they didn't. And the Blackhawks couldn't get that 1 additional goal and the 'Nucks staved off the epic collapse. And Butler couldn't keep from grabbing the Phlyer and Filly scored on the pp and again in OT. And, and, and ... Not sure where I'm going w/ this. Just that the Sabres aren't in the Bruins class at present, but 2-4 moves and they are. Thanks to this one, all I can think now is "if James Patrick hadn't hit that post..." :wallbash: I hate the Bruins.....he's so over the top that it's embarrassing for anyone in hockey. I'm waiting for him to get replaced by Gorilla Monsoon someday. Gorilla and the Brain calling a hockey game would be brilliant. Then again, those two could have entertained why calling a 5 hour paint drying session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 It's funny how many people are attempting to pass themselves of as longtime hockey fans around here right now. And you know, for all the complaining (speaking of complaining...) I've done over the years about Jack Edwards, I finally get it. He's just giving the fans exactly what they want, the vilification of every single aspect of the opposing team. I'd hate to be living there right now. At least in Chicago, they admit to being fair-weather hockey fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I'd hate to be living there right now. At least in Chicago, they admit to being fair-weather hockey fans. WWW really did an excellent job of breaking that fanbase. :( His kid appears to be doing a good job of building it back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I hate the Bruins.....he's so over the top that it's embarrassing for anyone in hockey. I'm waiting for him to get replaced by Gorilla Monsoon someday. He dropped him right on his external occipital protuberance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 It's funny how many people are attempting to pass themselves of as longtime hockey fans around here right now. And you know, for all the complaining (speaking of complaining...) I've done over the years about Jack Edwards, I finally get it. He's just giving the fans exactly what they want, the vilification of every single aspect of the opposing team. I feel for you man, it sucked around here in 2006 with all the caniacs coming out of the woodwork, many never to be heard from again. I really hope you don't have to deal with a cup parade in Boston this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I feel for you man, it sucked around here in 2006 with all the caniacs coming out of the woodwork, many never to be heard from again. I really hope you don't have to deal with a cup parade in Boston this year. I've seen too many parades already. This city's long run of luck started the second I moved out here. It makes me wonder why my magical touch never helped Buffalo at all. Hell, I visited my brother in San Antonio one year and then they promptly won an NBA title. Will it work if I move back to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 He dropped him right on his external occipital protuberance!!! It's time to crush that little weasel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I've seen too many parades already. This city's long run of luck started the second I moved out here. It makes me wonder why my magical touch never helped Buffalo at all. Hell, I visited my brother in San Antonio one year and then they promptly won an NBA title. Will it work if I move back to Buffalo? It's a risk I'm willing for you to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 It's a risk I'm willing for you to take In my 11 years: 3 hockey national championships, 3 superbowls, 2 world series, 1 NBA title I want to put this power towards a good use, not evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 In my 11 years: 3 hockey national championships, 3 superbowls, 2 world series, 1 NBA title I want to put this power towards a good use, not evil. :sick: :sick: Yeah...I might even donate to the cause lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 And yet people have been saying how they don't like the dirty things Vancouver does? Boston is a much dirtier team IMO. They are both dirty but the Canucks tend to be more sneaky dirty while the Bruins are blatant dirty. When the Canucks go blatant we see 4 game suspensions while the Bruins just go humming along doing what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 They are both dirty but the Canucks tend to be more sneaky dirty while the Bruins are blatant dirty. When the Canucks go blatant we see 4 game suspensions while the Bruins just go humming along doing what they want. But if you ask the Bruin fan, every single player on the team is a saint. It's a really strange mentality around here. They still manage to complain about the Yankees spending so much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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