FogBat Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Link BTW, not one team member was selected from the SM-liiga. That has to say something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Link BTW, not one team member was selected from the SM-liiga. That has to say something. Here come the turnovers, with one big time head-scratcher thrown in per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Here come the turnovers, with one big time head-scratcher thrown in per game. I have to wonder if Teppo had a say in this. After all, IIRC, Team Finland hired him as a scout for the upcoming Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body, makes good outlet passes, and is solid on both ends of the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body, makes good outlet passes, and is solid on both ends of the ice. Count me in the other 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Count me in the other 10%. Agreed, I have a renewed appreciation for what he brings to the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body (about twice per game), makes good outlet passes (except the glaring turnovers, and the one assist every ten games), and is solid on both ends of the ice (he shows up the other end of the ice and has about one shot per game, and scores once every 25). Yeah, I think I'm in the 90% that underrate this excellent D-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repster Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Guess who's tied for #2 on the team in +/-? Who would have thought at the end of last year that Tallinder and Lydman would be leading the team in this category about halfway through this year? Probably anyone looking at their contract status... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 He better not get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repster Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Lydman, Tallinder and Paetsch are all UFAs at the end of the year. We have a history of generally not signing our own free agents, so I was looking at who might slot into a spot next year if we fail to sign at least one of those three (since we have 8 on the roster right now). In Portland, Mike Weber is +16 on a marginal Pirates team. The next best +/- player is +6. I remember hearing Paul Hamilton in the pre-season say that he doesn't think Weber is even close to making the team, but maybe he has grown a bit down there this year. I wouldn't mind seeing Tallinder back again next year to pair with Myers. I am wary about the Rivet/Butler pairing. Rivet has looked slow and has struggled at times, but he is still even on +/- while Butler is the worst on the team at -10. Hopefully it's just youth and he can be more of a shutdown guy 5 on 5 moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body, makes good outlet passes, and is solid on both ends of the ice. I am one of the 10% then. I think Lydman has been the best overall defenseman on this team for the last several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Count me in the other 10%. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body, makes good outlet passes, and is solid on both ends of the ice. I agree. I hope we re-sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Lydman, Tallinder and Paetsch are all UFAs at the end of the year. We have a history of generally not signing our own free agents, so I was looking at who might slot into a spot next year if we fail to sign at least one of those three (since we have 8 on the roster right now). In Portland, Mike Weber is +16 on a marginal Pirates team. The next best +/- player is +6. I remember hearing Paul Hamilton in the pre-season say that he doesn't think Weber is even close to making the team, but maybe he has grown a bit down there this year. I wouldn't mind seeing Tallinder back again next year to pair with Myers. I am wary about the Rivet/Butler pairing. Rivet has looked slow and has struggled at times, but he is still even on +/- while Butler is the worst on the team at -10. Hopefully it's just youth and he can be more of a shutdown guy 5 on 5 moving forward. The Sekara/Montadore tandem is the one pairing that leaves me in suspense. They both like rushing the puck and both do lose it but seem to recover. And Sekara needs to get better at covering 2-1 breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah, I think I'm in the 90% that underrate this excellent D-man. Snide comments aside, he's more than a serviceable defenseman. Maybe you fall into the snapshot mentality, because his gaffs are usually of the eye-popping variety, but his overall game is solid. Right now he's at best their 3rd best defenseman. I'd like to see him slotted down a couple of pegs, but that would mean Bulter and Sekera step up their games big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Snide comments aside, he's more than a serviceable defenseman. Maybe you fall into the snapshot mentality, because his gaffs are usually of the eye-popping variety, but his overall game is solid. Right now he's at best their 3rd best defenseman. I'd like to see him slotted down a couple of pegs, but that would mean Bulter and Sekera step up their games big time. Nothing personal Ink, and apologies on the snide comments - reading them the next day just makes them look even worse. I don't know about Lydman honestly - last year really clouded my judgment on how I felt about him. It is easy to forget how well some one plays when the team is doing good. Reading all you veterans' comments about Lydman does make me think that maybe I'm seeing my own things out there. I'll remain in that 90% camp for now, but thanks for the pointers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I think 90% of the posters here underrate Toni. He's not a turnover machine. He plays the body, makes good outlet passes, and is solid on both ends of the ice. That's something that the eternal pessimist in me tends to forget. I think I'll go for one of these right now: :bag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I have no issues with Lydman. He's a solid nhl dman. It is no surprise he made team Finland. I was shocked, however, that Hannu Virta didn't make their squad. :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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