X. Benedict Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Derek Morris signs with Boston. 1 year deal worth $3.3 million. per TSN Solid move and an upgrade in every sense over Aaron Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Solid move and an upgrade in every sense over Aaron Ward. I think it's funny that everyone thought they were moving salary to make room for Kessel, but instead, they just added payroll. It should be interesting to see how that plays out. Really, I think it could come down to ever finding a taker for Marco Sturm. He's the perfect example of teams giving out way too many no trade clauses. Edit: And just out of pure curiousity, I just looked at Morris and Montador's stats. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the teams involved, but they're shockingly similar over the last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I think it's funny that everyone thought they were moving salary to make room for Kessel, but instead, they just added payroll. It should be interesting to see how that plays out. Really, I think it could come down to ever finding a taker for Marco Sturm. He's the perfect example of teams giving out way too many no trade clauses. Edit: And just out of pure curiousity, I just looked at Morris and Montador's stats. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the teams involved, but they're shockingly similar over the last two seasons. I found the Kessel thing interesting too -- seems like they must still be planning on unloading him. As for the Montador comparison -- you're just hoping for a DeLuca explosion, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimiVbaby Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I found the Kessel thing interesting too -- seems like they must still be planning on unloading him. As for the Montador comparison -- you're just hoping for a DeLuca explosion, aren't you? I've read that it might only take 4 million a year to sign Kessel. Man, in 4 years that will be a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I found the Kessel thing interesting too -- seems like they must still be planning on unloading him. As for the Montador comparison -- you're just hoping for a DeLuca explosion, aren't you? It really makes you wonder about the money Morris got. Then again, I'm sure everyone expects him to produce much better now that he's out of the desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I've read that it might only take 4 million a year to sign Kessel. Man, in 4 years that will be a bargain. Very possible. OTOH, it just seems like there's gotta be something going on with him for the Bs want to unload a young guy who can skate, score and generally has plenty of offensive skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 What, no comments on Toronto's big addition of Wayne Primeau? I hear that Eric Rasmussen isn't far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 What, no comments on Toronto's big addition of Wayne Primeau? I hear that Eric Rasmussen isn't far behind. Broken foot Sprained ankle Shoulder injury Hip injury Back spasms Upper body Hip flexor Groin Back inury Left knee surgery Foot injury Ankle injury Solid pick up Mr Burke. Oh, plus the 7 playoff goals he's scored in the NHL since 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Broken foot Sprained ankle Shoulder injury Hip injury Back spasms Upper body Hip flexor Groin Back inury Left knee surgery Foot injury Ankle injury Solid pick up Mr Burke. Oh, plus the 7 goals he's scored in the NHL since 1994. He has 66 career goals since 1994. He's a role player with size. If he can stay healthy he will have some value. With teams like the Sabres and Sens it's safe to say the Northeast isn't the toughest or most physical division in hockey. It's clear what Burke's plan is. Time will tell when if it will result in wins. I do think it will be apparent early on this season that the Leafs are not a team you will want to see on the schedule. Teams will pay a physical price for those two points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 He has 66 career goals since 1994. He's a role player with size. If he can stay healthy he will have some value. With teams like the Sabres and Sens it's safe to say the Northeast isn't the toughest or most physical division in hockey. It's clear what Burke's plan is. Time will tell when if it will result in wins. I do think it will be apparent early on this season that the Leafs are not a team you will want to see on the schedule. Teams will pay a physical price for those two points. perfect example of Burke and his lot making a plan, and sticking to it, even if it appears to be regressive to outsiders.. i have to give him credit for sticking by his guns. i agree with you DeLuca, those two points will be very hard-earned, and if their young 'uns develop into skilled players we have the Broad Street Bullies redux at the ACC. things could get very interesting in a couple of years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 He has 66 career goals since 1994. He's a role player with size. If he can stay healthy he will have some value. With teams like the Sabres and Sens it's safe to say the Northeast isn't the toughest or most physical division in hockey. It's clear what Burke's plan is. Time will tell when if it will result in wins. I do think it will be apparent early on this season that the Leafs are not a team you will want to see on the schedule. Teams will pay a physical price for those two points. I saw that coming when they first said they were bringing him and Wilson East. If he has a solid goalie and compliments it with a few skilled players they will be a competitive team and will reshape the playing style for this division. IMHO one of the big reasons behind the drafting strategy this year for the Sabres choices not just because they already knew they were soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 perfect example of Burke and his lot making a plan, and sticking to it, even if it appears to be regressive to outsiders.. i have to give him credit for sticking by his guns. i agree with you DeLuca, those two points will be very hard-earned, and if their young 'uns develop into skilled players we have the Broad Street Bullies redux at the ACC. things could get very interesting in a couple of years time. I'm glad Burke is doing this. It's the only way to really make the east as a whole, more competitive with the west. It's better for the Sabres if our rivals get stronger, because it will force our hand eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 todays Ek rumors of players Buffalo is persuing include Zubov, Satan, Peca, Jason Williams, and Dominic Moore lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 What? How can this thread completely avoid the signing of Andy Delmore by the Red Wings? I bet it's a two-way contract, or maybe he's this year's Chris Chelios, only about 15 years younger. Disappointed in all of you not noticing this former Sabre getting signed by the Red Wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I'm glad Burke is doing this. It's the only way to really make the east as a whole, more competitive with the west. It's better for the Sabres if our rivals get stronger, because it will force our hand eventually. Not sure how this makes the Leafs stronger? Wayne Primeau is horrible. He was a decent player years ago. However, Anton Stralman was one of the better d-men last season for Toronto. I checked out a Leafs forum after the deal because i was confused why they would deal Stralman, and their fans are very upset. So i went to the Flames forum, and their fans are just as confused. They said TSN said Primeau had "negative trade value" and yet he gets them 2 players, one with real good upside. Flames fans on the forum i read, have NO IDEA how Sutter pulled the deal off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Not sure how this makes the Leafs stronger? Wayne Primeau is horrible. He was a decent player years ago. However, Anton Stralman was one of the better d-men last season for Toronto. I checked out a Leafs forum after the deal because i was confused why they would deal Stralman, and their fans are very upset. So i went to the Flames forum, and their fans are just as confused. They said TSN said Primeau had "negative trade value" and yet he gets them 2 players, one with real good upside. Flames fans on the forum i read, have NO IDEA how Sutter pulled the deal off. I'm not exactly praising the Primeau deal so much as praising what Burke is doing big picture wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Not sure how this makes the Leafs stronger? Wayne Primeau is horrible. He was a decent player years ago. However, Anton Stralman was one of the better d-men last season for Toronto. I checked out a Leafs forum after the deal because i was confused why they would deal Stralman, and their fans are very upset. So i went to the Flames forum, and their fans are just as confused. They said TSN said Primeau had "negative trade value" and yet he gets them 2 players, one with real good upside. Flames fans on the forum i read, have NO IDEA how Sutter pulled the deal off. It's all about getting something in return for giving the Flames a bit of cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I'm not exactly praising the Primeau deal so much as praising what Burke is doing big picture wise. Gotcha. Then in that case, i do agree with you. I do like what Burke is doing. I don't exactly think he's gotten much better so to speak, but they will be very tough to play against night in and night out. I mean, Burke is trying to bring every goon to Toronto. lol Sharder - Flames get the better player AND cap relief. It still makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Sharder - Flames get the better player AND cap relief. It still makes no sense to me. And that 2nd round pick to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 ^^ you do have a point with the 2nd round pick. Although, i still value Stralman over a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Interesting ... the Lightning have bought out Prospal. He had a tough time in Tampa last year and back in 2006-07, but he also had very good seasons with Philly in 2007-08 and even in Tampa in 2005-06. He's capable of playing at left wing and center (mostly wing lately, but he used to play center.) I wonder what his post-buyout price will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Gotcha. Then in that case, i do agree with you. I do like what Burke is doing. I don't exactly think he's gotten much better so to speak, but they will be very tough to play against night in and night out. I mean, Burke is trying to bring every goon to Toronto. lol Sharder - Flames get the better player AND cap relief. It still makes no sense to me. I'm not seeing how Toronto is better. Tougher, yes. But not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Interesting ... the Lightning have bought out Prospal. He had a tough time in Tampa last year and back in 2006-07, but he also had very good seasons with Philly in 2007-08 and even in Tampa in 2005-06. He's capable of playing at left wing and center (mostly wing lately, but he used to play center.) I wonder what his post-buyout price will be. Really? Somewhat surprising. I'm betting they really doubted he could keep up with their centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Interesting ... the Lightning have bought out Prospal. He had a tough time in Tampa last year and back in 2006-07, but he also had very good seasons with Philly in 2007-08 and even in Tampa in 2005-06. He's capable of playing at left wing and center (mostly wing lately, but he used to play center.) I wonder what his post-buyout price will be. I think he'd be a great option for Buffalo on the second line as a left winger with say Connolly and Pominville or Roy and Pominville. I hope the Sabres go after him because he won't cost much because he was bought out. He'll add some scoring punch as well and can play center if necessary. If he were to sign in Buffalo, I could see the lines being: Vanek-Roy-Stafford Prospal-Connolly-Pominville Hecht-Gaustad-Kaleta Paille-MacArthur-Mair-Ellis I think the top 6 improves. If he's cheap and can add scoring to this team, I think the Sabres should try and make a run at him. I think he'd be an upgrade over re-signing Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Looking for opinions on Robert Lang, UFA, 38 yrs old, center, pondering KHL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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