shrader Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 No. It doesn't change the fact that he was a player that could have made a significantly favorable impact on this team and that he should have been on their radar screen. Nevermind the money. There was no way this team was going to trade for anyone's negotating rights. That was their only shot at Bouwmeester if they were indeed willing to pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Neil is going to FA as per TSN. He turned down 1.7. This is instant "grit". Any opinions? I have said Neil for a while now. There is a thread about it. Neil just isn't a player they can use. He is a player they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 For instance? I'm not sure how the money will settle but I think he would be a good deal around 2.5-3.0 Neil and Laperriere come to mind. John Madden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUeagles2011 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Heatly to the Oliers!!! http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=432360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I have said Neil for a while now. There is a thread about it. Neil just isn't a player they can use. He is a player they need. I will have a difficult time rooting for a team with Chris Neil on the roster. I really, really will. He's dirty, and I don't want him in Buffalo. There are other solid and physical players who I won't mind, but I really don't want that dirty POS here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Im hearing rumors that Hossa has turned down a deal offered by Detroit, most likely due to what's transpiring right now: Heatley is heading to Edmonton for Cogliano, Smid, and Penner. I dont see what Ottawa sees in that trade. But whatever. NYR cleared cap space to acquire Heatley, but Im guessing Murray wasn't too hot at shipping Heatley to someone so close. So, theyre shipping him out to Edmonton. So now NY has cap space, Hossa sees this. He'll most likely try to sign with NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Heatly to the Oliers!!! http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=432360 Whoa. And for $4M Dustin Penner and friends? There must be more to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Neil and Laperriere come to mind. John Madden? Okay.......I see the direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Whoa. And for $4M Dustin Penner and friends? There must be more to this. Apparently Brian Murray, for whatever reason, likes Dustin Penner. I hear he's an underachieving player Edmonton couldn't wait to salary dump. Really, I don't see any upside in this trade for Ottawa. At first glance, this is one of the worst trades I've seen in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Why in the name of the Stanley Cup would Hossa want to go to the Rangers? He wants to win a cup doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Apparently Brian Murray, for whatever reason, likes Dustin Penner. I hear he's an underachieving player Edmonton couldn't wait to salary dump. Really, I don't see any upside in this trade for Ottawa. At first glance, this is one of the worst trades I've seen in a while. Depends on how the Cap dollars work out. If this allows the Sens to hit the free agent market for a top level talent then it can be a great trade. I'm not a Heatly fan, his numbers are good but on the decline. His best days are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Depends on how the Cap dollars work out. If this allows the Sens to hit the free agent market for a top level talent then it can be a great trade. I'm not a Heatly fan, his numbers are good but on the decline. His best days are behind him. Well he won't line up with Alfredson and Spezza anymore......probably the most dominant line of the half decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well he won't line up with Alfredson and Spezza anymore......probably the most dominant line of the half decade. True. Is anyone else concerned bout the huge moves being made within the Division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hold your Heatley horses: Some sources are now reporting Heatley has TURNED DOWN the Oilers trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 True. Is anyone else concerned bout the huge moves being made within the Division? Up to now... Pronger worries me. Gomez to Montreal doesn't yet until Gainey signs a team - he has opted for the total culture change--- Guy Carbonaue couldn't hold that team. So I can't say I blame him Heatly gone, good news. Rangers are still deeply flawed. Carolina is going to lose 2 of their top 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Heatley is not gone. Per TSN, the deal with Edmonton is dead. http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=283382 Being that its now July 1st, Ottawa now owes Heatley a 4 million dollar bonus check. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hold your Heatley horses: Some sources are now reporting Heatley has TURNED DOWN the Oilers trade. Dammit. The Sens had completely screwed up that deal, and I was enjoying the idea of them paying $4M/yr for Dustin Penner. (On the other hand, I'm still enjoying the fact that Lowe is paying $4M/yr for Dustin Penner. Jackass.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 How well does that usually work out for them, though, jag? One Cup in the last 70 years? (And for many of those years, there only were six teams.) Let 'em spend their fans' money on folly. I'll take my team that gets to the final four one third of the time under Ruff. Damn, I love watching Philly and NYR freak out at free agency time. It's like watching two hot, but drunk and dumb, women at a WWE event. I agree it hasn't struck gold but once. By my back of the envelope calculations, that is one more time than Buffalo. I'm not saying I want a yearly upgrade, just a bold chance to improve every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Being that its now July 1st, Ottawa now owes Heatley a 4 million dollar bonus check. i saw something on tsn.ca (see below) about how the sens can still avoid paying that money if they were to unload him today. "It's true that Dany Heatley did not waive his no-movement clause when requested by the Edmonton Oilers on Tuesday night, meaning the Senators are still on the clock in their window to trade Heatley without absorbing the cost of the $4 million signing bonus and will be until 11:59 p.m. eastern time on Wednesday night." http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ i'd prefer that they still have an incentive to move the guy out of our division, conference -- if they do pay that $4MM, seems far less likely that they would move him (and i think their GM has said as much). EDIT: confirmed as much at darren dreger's twitter. this is officially the first twitter account that i will be following -- up to the minute transaction news strikes me as a great use of the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hold your Heatley horses: Some sources are now reporting Heatley has TURNED DOWN the Oilers trade. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283382 He won't waive his no-trade clause to go to Edmonton. Has until 11:59pm tonight to make up his mind, and Ottawa's pocket book for the bonus $. see above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283382He won't waive his no-trade clause to go to Edmonton. Has until 11:59pm tonight to make up his mind, and Ottawa's pocket book for the bonus $. see above Why wouldn't the Sens management know this would happen before they wasted their time? You think they would have asked Heatley which teams he would waive the no trade for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Why wouldn't the Sens management know this would happen before they wasted their time? You think they would have asked Heatley which teams he would waive the no trade for. Yeah, that's interesting. I read somewhere he did make a list. Guess Ottawa just hoping... Also interesting is that after Edmonton throws the offer sheet at Penner they trade him away. Would they have traded Vanek after a few years if they got him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Yeah, that's interesting. I read somewhere he did make a list. Guess Ottawa just hoping... Also interesting is that after Edmonton throws the offer sheet at Penner they trade him away. Would they have traded Vanek after a few years if they got him? I'm a Vanek fan, it does make you wonder what would have happened if the Sabres took the compensation instead of matching. I don't have a good feeling about this off-season. Gomez in Montreal. It is possible that because of Heatley not waiving the no-trade he could end up on the Rangers. I am really concerned about what other mid-level Eastern Conference teams will do especially if the Sabres do their traditional next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'm a Vanek fan, it does make you wonder what would have happened if the Sabres took the compensation instead of matching. I don't have a good feeling about this off-season. Gomez in Montreal. It is possible that because of Heatley not waiving the no-trade he could end up on the Rangers. I am really concerned about what other mid-level Eastern Conference teams will do especially if the Sabres do their traditional next to nothing. With about 10 mill to spend on about 5 guys, one of which gets big money, and that's if they spend to the cap, the Sabres must be looking at trading somebody, somewhere. Or, the players need to step it up to the level darcy thought they would be at right now. Unfortunately, it may be the latter. Quick thought: Komisarek? real hitter on D. prolly about 2 mill.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 With about 10 mill to spend on about 5 guys, one of which gets big money, and that's if they spend to the cap, the Sabres must be looking at trading somebody, somewhere. Or, the players need to step it up to the level darcy thought they would be at right now. Unfortunately, it may be the latter. Darcy probably won't hit the phones until after the first 24 hours are up.....he's a bear market shopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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