nucci Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 good signing by Buffalo. Connolly gets the money he deserves while Buffalo gets the luxury of only having to deal with him for 2 years should something go wrong without hurting the cap TOO much. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Good grief, can't get on sportsnet.ca now, did Sabre fans at Connolly signing crash the site or what :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Personally the only way I'm happy with this signing is if he's traded today or the stars align & he stays healthy which is a huge question mark with an awful track record. If it were just the concussions I'd be nervous enough but he has a laundry list of obscure & common injuries - kind of like a chain smoker but a chain injury victim instead - one after another. Not being smart here, but can someone explain to me the benefit of a sign and trade? Why would we do this? And yes, I'm being serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 people people, if hes hurt he DOESNT count against the cap!!!!!!!!!!! why doesnt anyone know this? see danny briere........ As noted below, your post completely misses all of the relevant points. Also, the use of "people, people" is possibly even more annoying in writing than it is in person. We do know this. It's only true if he is on LTIR. He has not been on LTIR this season, but missed almost half a season worth of games. Plus, unless you get the contract insured (hard/expensive with history), you still have to pay the money, which is far more important to the Sabres than the cap (at least next year.) Finally, it prevents you from bringing someone else in this summer. If he gets injured, then we are stuck with Hecht as the #2 center, since they will not go out and get a replacement. well, there's real cash to consider, there's the performance problem of relying on a guy who won't be there for big stretches of time, and there's the likelihood that he won't actually go on IR and give us any cap relief (which, btw, this team does not need because they're well under it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 This is a nightmare. This is far worse than the extension the Bills gave Jauron. Regier is a joke and deserves to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Wow. $9 million? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty16 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 We do know this. It's only true if he is on LTIR. He has not been on LTIR this season, but missed almost half a season worth of games. Plus, unless you get the contract insured (hard/expensive with history), you still have to pay the money, which is far more important to the Sabres than the cap (at least next year.) Finally, it prevents you from bringing someone else in this summer. If he gets injured, then we are stuck with Hecht as the #2 center, since they will not go out and get a replacement. True, the team must be comfortable with these things though. and long term injured reserve is only "10 games and 24 days", not a high hurdle. J Williams was able to have his contract insured even though he blew out his knee. The sabres CAN get insurance, although i would expect it to be expensive esp if they want to insure against a head injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Not being smart here, but can someone explain to me the benefit of a sign and trade? Why would we do this? And yes, I'm being serious! Having the guy under another two years of contract makes him less of a rental and more of a signing for now and the future. For a team that thinks that he's worth the risk, they now wouldn't have to worry about him walking in the summer. So, his trade value goes up. Personally, at $4.5 million per, I think his value may have gone down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 This is a nightmare. from which, i fear, we cannot awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Having the guy under another two years of contract makes him less of a rental and more of a signing for now and the future. For a team that thinks that he's worth the risk, they now wouldn't have to worry about him walking in the summer. So, his trade value goes up. Personally, at $4.5 million per, I think his value may have gone down now. Ah, got it. Thanks! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 This is a nightmare. This is far worse than the extension the Bills gave Jauron. Regier is a joke and deserves to be fired. Sorry -- Jauron's extension is much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 from which, i fear, we cannot awake. Let's see what the team looks like at 4 PM before we jump to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Sorry -- Jauron's extension is much worse. Agreed! One player doesn't make a team. A coach can ruin a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflobarry Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I may be in the minority, but this is great news! The Skill is our most talented playmaker, and I love how creative he is w/ the puck. He is the only guy we have that can compliment Vanek. W/out TC, we'd have no #1 center. I know everyone is pissed at how many games he's missed, but those injuries came ON THE JOB, in service to the Buffalo Sabres. It's not like he fell down crossing the street, or wanted to be missing out on some of the best years of his career. Let's assume for the moment that he CAN stay healthy: We just got a world class hockey player to be our #1 center for the next 2 years. Great work, Darcy! ....Now, pls get rid of Hecht and Kotalik, so that watching our Sabres doesn't continue to be a frustrating exercise in watching these 2 underacheivers give the puck away on every shift. Welcome back to "The Skill"!...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Agreed! One player doesn't make a team. A coach can ruin a team. Correction; a coach RUINED a team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 True, the team must be comfortable with these things though. and long term injured reserve is only "10 games and 24 days", not a high hurdle. J Williams was able to have his contract insured even though he blew out his knee. The sabres CAN get insurance, although i would expect it to be expensive esp if they want to insure against a head injury. Really, though, the big problem is what we've seen over the past two seasons, they have no real third option (and now can't really afford one) for scoring line center. I would say that last year and possibly this year (depending on how the end goes), just having a slightly less skilled (playmaking-wise; would probably be better on faceoffs, though) center who played most games would have been enough to push us into the playoffs. Tim Kennedy better progress quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I get the feeling that there is going to be some sort of salary dump later in the day or in the offseason. And we're not talking about a Kotalik or Afinogenov. They'll probably dump some future salary (Tallinder seems like a good one now). Free up space for more of the cheap youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty16 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Really, though, the big problem is what we've seen over the past two seasons, they have no real third option (and now can't really afford one) for scoring line center. I would say that last year and possibly this year (depending on how the end goes), just having a slightly less skilled (playmaking-wise; would probably be better on faceoffs, though) center who played most games would have been enough to push us into the playoffs. Tim Kennedy better progress quickly. I agree, the lack of secondary scoring (not vanek, connolly) is really holding them back, pommers hecht etc shitting the bed this year is killing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Sorry -- Jauron's extension is much worse. Jauron's extension doesn't cripple the team financially as Connolly's does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm not sure what makes this deal better: the fact that it ticks DeLuca off so much or that it makes Bucky Gleason look stupid again. Seriously, though, I like this deal. Everyone familiar with the situation knew the outcome would be divisive. If you're optimistic about his injury plague being over, it's obvious he's a great player at a reasonable price. If you're pessimistic about his injury history, then he's too big a risk at almost any price and should've been traded. Personally, I like the deal. I hope it signals a commitment to making a big push for the playoffs this year and beyond. That means more additions by the end of the afternoon today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheReaper Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I like it. Connolly has world class talent. It's worth the risk. Hopefully he won't get over $4 million per season and i hope it's 3 or less years. But i have no problem giving this guy that kind of money. He's a star when healthy. I also would like to point out that 2 years is almost a perfect deal for Connolly. It allows the Sabs to keep a player that helps them now. It also gives them a chance to see how he would perform throughout an entire season. 2 seasons for 9 mil sounds about right,and i have a hunch TC just turned down alot of money in the off season to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 the bigger point here is that there are a lot of fans, myself included, who see connolly as a siren's song of player personnel -- absolutely beautiful to behold, but you follow it to your demise. sorry to go high-brow here (wait, no i'm not): so, that's odysseus (LQ and darcy) lashed to the mast, and those are the lervely sirens (connolly) singing their irresistible come-hither song. difference being, the lashing effort worked in homer's epic, not so much here. p.s. plus, boobies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm not sure what makes this deal better: the fact that it ticks DeLuca off so much or that it makes Bucky Gleason look stupid again. Seriously, though, I like this deal. Everyone familiar with the situation knew the outcome would be divisive. If you're optimistic about his injury plague being over, it's obvious he's a great player at a reasonable price. If you're pessimistic about his injury history, then he's too big a risk at almost any price and should've been traded. Personally, I like the deal. I hope it signals a commitment to making a big push for the playoffs this year and beyond. That means more additions by the end of the afternoon today. Add Connolly's contract to the next two years salary totals and where does the money come from to improve the team. Connolly will be sitting home and the won't spend to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Connolly is a selfish little dink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Add Connolly's contract to the next two years salary totals and where does the money come from to improve the team. Connolly will be sitting home and the won't spend to replace him. Especially with the cap going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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