BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Check it out ESPN story ... "We understand that this is a sensitive issue, but with all due respect to Alexei's family and his memory, he is technically eligible to be drafted again next year.""We are not attempting to capitalize on a tragedy, but there would be no question regarding the Rangers' right to a compensatory pick if Cherepanov had been revived and survived the incident and were on life support," Hope said. "If an unsigned player sustained a massive injury on or off the ice, the drafting team would get a compensatory pick. "We believe that the letter of the law applies in this case, but even if there is a disagreement on that, it's clear that the spirit of the law applies." I suppose this is true but ... I mean ... i just don't know what to think. I might buy it if they had not said "he is technically eligible to be drafted again next year." Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 This is the cold, very cold, business side of this sport... Hard to imagine the Rangers being more callous... That picture makes him look like a 16 yr old kid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Why even let that leak to the press, and if someone outside the organization did leak it, why even comment on it? There's no way to spin that and make yourselves look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Fan Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 what kind of "compensation" are we talking about? Another 1st round pick? Feels very socialistic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 what kind of "compensation" are we talking about? Another 1st round pick? Feels very socialistic to me. Obviously the Rangers are nothing more than Obama Kool-Aid drinkers who believe the NHL should redistribute the wealth and are waiting for their free handout. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Obviously the Rangers are nothing more than Obama Kool-Aid drinkers who believe the NHL should redistribute the wealth and are waiting for their free handout. <_< That's the zeitgeist we're living in right now. Then again, it just goes to show that corporate welfare is alive and well in the UASSR (sorry about the pejorative). Seriously, it is callous of them, to say the least. If that was the Sabres FO doing that, they would have been castigated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 what kind of "compensation" are we talking about? Another 1st round pick? Feels very socialistic to me. If you lose a first round pick to the draft or to free agency after two years, you are awarded compensation of a 2nd round pick at the same slot that the lost pick was. So say team X drafted 5th and is unable to sign that player, they are awarded the 5th pick in the 2nd round the year that they lose the player's rights. Yeah, it looks bad, but what is so wrong with the Rangers wanting compensation? Maybe they could've waited a little longer, but sometimes you have to get the wheels turning on this early. This is nothing more than the cold reality of business. The one interesting thing here is that as the CBA is written, the team needs to make an offer to the player before they can receive that compensation (I forget the exaxt terminology for the contract offer). Obviously they can't make him that offer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm with Shrader on this one. It's a tragedy and he will never be forgotten, but I agree that it falls within the intent of the rule. They can't sign their first-round pic, so they get compensation. It's actually pretty straight-forward except for the wording due to a clarification that imparts an unintended restriction. There's no compassionate way to go about it, but as an organization, they were dealt a major blow to their future and deserve some compensation for the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 what kind of "compensation" are we talking about? Another 1st round pick? Feels very socialistic to me. :wallbash: Obviously the Rangers are nothing more than Obama Kool-Aid drinkers who believe the NHL should redistribute the wealth and are waiting for their free handout. <_< :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Fan Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Obviously the Rangers are nothing more than Obama Kool-Aid drinkers who believe the NHL should redistribute the wealth and are waiting for their free handout. <_< I really wasn't thinking of Obama...just a general statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I really wasn't thinking of Obama...just a general statement. No worries, I wasn't really picking at your post, just capitalizing on the word socialistic and pulling a little of the post-election hysteria from the other thread. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm with Shrader on this one. It's a tragedy and he will never be forgotten, but I agree that it falls within the intent of the rule. They can't sign their first-round pic, so they get compensation. It's actually pretty straight-forward except for the wording due to a clarification that imparts an unintended restriction. There's no compassionate way to go about it, but as an organization, they were dealt a major blow to their future and deserve some compensation for the loss. I'm actually torn now as to whether or not it falls within the intent of the rule. It is written so that if you want to sign the player but can't, you get compensation. At one point I'm sure they did want to sign him, but obviously they don't want to anymore (I hope that doesn't sound too cold). I can see a good argument for both sides on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR HOLLIDAY Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 They deserve nothing, what can be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_Polako Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm with Shrader on this one. It's a tragedy and he will never be forgotten, but I agree that it falls within the intent of the rule. As do I. Also i'm surprised that team in the NHL sign players without any type of medical checkup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 As do I. Also i'm surprised that team in the NHL sign players without any type of medical checkup. You mean a physical? They all have to pass one. They also do vigorous medical checks at the draft. Unfortunately, sometimes things either sneak by or aren't yet at a stage where they can be caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenbaro Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe the Sabres can get back some compensation for David Cooper..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe the Sabres can get back some compensation for David Cooper..LOL I know you're joking, but they did actually sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hope said. "If an unsigned player sustained a massive injury on or off the ice, the drafting team would get a compensatory pick. The rest of his sentence was: ...and there is no more a massive injury possible then death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The one interesting thing here is that as the CBA is written, the team needs to make an offer to the player before they can receive that compensation (I forget the exaxt terminology for the contract offer). Obviously they can't make him that offer now. They can still make the offer - with the assurance that he will not sign it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'm actually torn now as to whether or not it falls within the intent of the rule. It is written so that if you want to sign the player but can't, you get compensation. At one point I'm sure they did want to sign him, but obviously they don't want to anymore (I hope that doesn't sound too cold). I can see a good argument for both sides on this one. But if there really is something about the player sustaining injury, then this clearly applies. Hypothetically, say that a team wants to sign a players, but he is paralyzed in a car accident. Clearly, they don't want to sign a paralyzed player, but the quotes above imply that they get compensation. This would fall under that part of the rule's intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Rangers get their pick... http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=413511&cmpid=rss-News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisky Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I say too bad so sad you made your pick. Looks like the NHL is a bunch of panzy push-overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I say too bad so sad you made your pick. Looks like the NHL is a bunch of panzy push-overs. Yeah, 'cause if you drafted Sidney Crosby and then he died in a train accident, I'm sure you wouldn't want compensation. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Doctors have been cleared. http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/2726...Cherepanov.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Doctors have been cleared. http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/2726...Cherepanov.html Good luck clearing whoever it was that gave the ambulance the clearance to leave early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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