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Or where they are dealing a position that is deep - secure for some time on the big club but have potential great to elite prospects in the minors. And this team is in win now mode. And a first round draft pick or multiple absolutely should be in any deal. That criteria will have to expand the list to EC teams because the WC teams you hear mentioned are not close to a Cup and may not want to part with elite young talent at positions they are thin at because as you said you want to add to your core. If the haul is a legit haul I don't care if it's Boston or the Rangers. And I can see this deal including multiple players from our roster that may surprise people - Borgen Casey or Tage for example. Not saying we should or that I would deal those guys I could just see it happening.

"Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood." Most every Tarantino movie fwiw.

Correct! Dang I forgot that and I just Googled it. Defenseman Tyler Myers was selected by the Buffalo Sabres 12th-overall in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. And here's a little side story to how that selection came to be. The Los Angeles Kings had the 12th pick in the draft that year, the Sabres had the 13th. Both were looking for defensemen and the two best-rated defensemen on the board--Colten Teubert and Tyler Myers--were still there when it came to the Kings at No.12. Buffalo GM Darcy Regier proposed a trade to Kings GM Dean Lombardi as he and his scouting staff wanted Myers. Lombardi had his choice in mind as well but in order for him to sign off on the trade so the Sabres wouldn't take his guy, each GM wrote the name of the player they wanted on a napkin at the draft table. If they wrote the same name, no deal. When they turned the napkins over, Regier wrote Myers, Lombardi wrote Teubert and the deal was done. Buffalo traded their pick, No.13 overall, and a 2009 3rd-round pick to Los Angeles to move up a spot and picked Myers. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Michael-Pachla/On-Myers-Antipin-Guhle-Lehner-and-Kane-Winnipeg-at-Buffalo-tonight/209/90202

Maybe I'm reading it wrong. That's just who I think Anaheim would draft if we traded down with them. What was the draft and players involved where Darcy and another GM had names of who they were definitely drafting if there when their pick came when discussing a swap - or did the swap happen? That was the story out of one draft with him right or am I misremembering.

Smoke. Screen. Szn. Translation: "We would like to keep him because we like our D depth....we aren't drafting Power, despite what the owner says about him - if that's who you want we are taking any and all calls for the number 1 overall, Anaheim."

Yep I said this last week. They're waiting for the Finals to be over. I think a deal is actually 100% done but only 5 people or so know it. I expect it to be announced by late next week (July 15 or 16), leading us into the Expansion (July 21) and NHL draft (July 24) week.

I'm good with this.

We need goaltending to continue to play this way especially with a young team. Goalies not named Linus won 5...5 freaking games total. Linus went 9-6-3. Not addressing the goaltending before the season is what has had me questioning KA that got put aside when we got Hall. Both total disasters. Not good Kevin. Not good.

I don't think it happens until the Cup Final ends at the earliest. Which should be by Tuesday. Eichel gets traded by Friday of next week. I think they know what they're going to do it's just a matter of not taking any attention from the Cup.

Agreed another ROR trade just cannot happen. I would not trade him in conference BUT if the package is one you can't pass up yes I'm doing it at this point especially if the WC team is low balling. Zero chance the Rangers give us Fox but if he's in the deal I'm making it happen. Something like that. Young elite talent being offered you have to get the elite talent.

3 to 6 months is best case - if it's a herniated disc and he gets the procedure I've read about on Dr. Google. Which is why I'm not understanding what KA is talking about regarding a surgery never done on an NHL player. Google can tell you this to. Is there some new procedure we don't know about? There are so many variables at work here. So regarding Vogl's tweet and what they mean by coming to a resolution: The team he's traded to - don't they have to agree on a course of treatment for Eichel as well? If Eichel is getting surgery now after being shutdown for almost 4 months I mean it's got to be a serious concern. The team he's traded to - they aren't going to trade for a guy that doesn't want to be there - the Sabres have the window to trade him wherever they can but the team getting him will not come June 2022. He's got to be happy with where he's going, right? Who wants a disgruntled and injured Eichel that completely can dictate where he's traded next....if it came to that. Eichel's camp is going to have a significant say (that's what Vogls tweet tells me and we'd be naive to have ever thought otherwise). I'm sure every team wants him but it's likely been down to 2 or 3 realistically again given all the variables (injury, cost, contract, NMC, and yes, where Jack wants to go). And that limits the return because there is no "bidding war." Why do you need to increase your trade package when there are only 2 or 3 (I'm obviously guessing) serious players in on Jack. I think I'm just preparing myself for a very meh return. I think we're going to get 1 maybe 2 first rounders, a top (not elite) prospect, and a mid level one.

Montreal was a minus 9 this year. A team with a minus 9 or worse has made the SCF 10 times in the last 40 years. 80 teams. 10 have had a minus 9 or worse. I actually thought it was much less then that. Vancouver was a minus 15 in 2010 - 2011. https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/worst-goal-differential-in-a-stanley-cup Oh...and NONE of them won the Cup.

Ahh ok. I did not know that.

If we expose him for the draft?

What if you make a deal with Seattle for the #2 for Eichel a first next year and they agree to draft Skinner in expansion draft? I don't like it but right now as the Sabres are in cost cutting mode as well as a rebuild I can see it happening.

You don't think reporting like this forces teams to do more homework on the player?

Thanks for sinking Sam's value Paul Wow. My mind is blown.

And if those are the offers that come in, you hang up the phone and keep him. Surround him with an entire new cast. I'd look at moving Samson Skinner and Oloffson. I'd consider moving the number 1 if it got me ready now elite prospect in multiple package possibilities. My gut is telling me the return on Eichel will not be sufficient so keep him. My gut also says that the 1st overall is not getting us to the playoffs sooner and is no guarantee. If we keep Eichel and make good move using our picks, a few roster players, and prospects we can properly overhaul the team....led by Eichel/Cozens/Dahlin. The latter 2 aren't untouchable but the players coming back need to be elite. If Jack wants to be here that's what I'm doing.

This is where I'm at. I'm going to actually need to hear him say he wants out at this point because all this health situation has done has decrease his value. Why does Adams continue (the 2x I heard him interviewed since the season ended including the PC) to talk about "surgery that has never been done on an NHL player" as he has done? I'm sure this isn't a secret in front offices across the league. But if the public knows this you can't sell trading your elite prospects for a guy everyone is hearing has this very serious neck issue. Am I missing something about this? I don't want Adams talking about it at all frankly. But I guess since he is that's probably the red flag that he's getting dealt.

That's depressing KA. That's something you say when you're picking in the 7 - 15 range. When you have the first overall pick it should be a slam dunk. I don't know much about a lot of these guys yet, but it feels like 2014 only worse.

That clip of him split second frozen right there in his own end seriously has me questioning the instincts. I mean where was he going with that - down the middle?

Is Carlson a good comp for Power?

Everything about those teams in that division was a mirage. Nice racket tho the league set up guaranteeing at least one Canadian team in the final 4. Everything better be back to normal next season re the divisions because this is a joke.

LoLeafs

Just for fun...what would Edmonton ask for: I think: Eichel Cozens Dahlin Isn't that what you'd ask for?