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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-probe-finds-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-was-punished-inappropriately ^^ he's just the most publicized one. Who also managed to die at the age of 34. (Yes, the amount of exposure is a factor.. but he's the only healthy 34yo to die from it..) https://www.marketwatch.com/story/inside-chinas-campaign-to-blame-the-us-for-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-03-15 Wasn't Xi blaming the US, but their military absolutely sowed the seeds of discord. As for lying about the numbers--- when has China EVER been faithful reporting? Never. They don't get a pass now.

Power corrupts absolutely. It's not a story of 'corporations bad' or 'unions bad'. They are both good until they are bad. Just like governments, unions need to be able to quickly and freely form. but also disband once the objective is done. Yeah, you might say 'well that means unions will never be as organized as management', but that's overlooking how powerful striking is as a negotiation tool. If you want to give unions more power, stop outsourcing. That's what's been undermining the US worker more than anything for the last thirty+ years. Opening up to China and NAFTA, etc. is the problem. And the average worker understands this and is why Trump's 'oh god he's so racist' policies get the cult following despite the 'downsides'.

China killing off all the early whistleblowers of the disease and lying about all their numbers, then blaming the US for the whole thing--- not a dick move.

This is what I was saying earlier. Though, even with the fatality rate likely being lower, it is indeed much more contagious which is the reason for some of the panicking. Everything else is one huge social experiment.

These instruments are absurdly sensitive to contamination (of stray RNA/DNA), they take those pre-cautions even if they didn't care about anything. If your glove touches something you need to change it out or you'll likely contaminate the sample. And that's why the US testing is behind. 1) CDC declared a monopoly on testing then 2) contaminated their control. Anything you see about the US being behind is pure political pandering unless they are blaming the red tape.

The researcher himself who was all over the nightly news last night was ignoring those deets

Didn't they take everyone who was dying off the drugs and exlcuded them from the statistics because they 'didn't continue the dosage' when they were on the table? I'd love to be positive.. but data scrubbing like that and not outright mentioning it is a bit unfair..

Starting next to the only Level 4 lab in the country is more suspicious than the Sunda pangolin whose habitat isn’t even in Wuhan.

It doesn’t counter much. You can take a virus from a pangolin, split it 100-ways, subject it to light, and wait until one of the dishes takes host in humans. All they showed is that it’s likely not some CRISPR gene splice job.

The whole point of ‘the process’ is that guys are replaceable. Including Allen. The team is greater than the sum of its parts. Neither McDermott nor Beane are going anywhere barring them disowning God.

Maybe if you don’t run around kissing everyone you greet and your President telling every citizen to hug everyone who just got off a plane from endemic countries like the Italians both did, it won’t get as bad as the Italians have it.

The Republicans didn’t put forth Trump. Trump stole the entire party out of nowhere while it was in shambles. The Republican voters pushed for the Tea Party and the media co-opted their efforts and turned that movement into a farce giving all the idiots the microphones. But it left the party in shambles as the voters lost their faith. The entire power structure of the Republican Party has since turned over. There’s some swamp holdouts, but they at least had major change. The Democrats have chosen Biden. They’ve undermined Sanders every step of the way because he’s an external threat. All the ‘socialist/progressive minded people’ put their energy into him, but we’re about to see for the second time him selling out completely to keep the party intact. Do you blame the people for following his suit? Or do you blame Sanders for being such a cuck that he lets his happen for a second time? Youre right, until the populace loses its distractions (like during a boring Pandemic...), nothing will fundamentally change. That’s their game. I see a (new) politician on one side that changed the game, and one on the other who in the end just gives in to the people he decries against.

Everyone’s a socialist during a pandemic. Trump/Republicans are out there proposing cash checks for every organ sack in addition to airplane bailouts. Why not both?

Stuff that will actually make changes to things like that such as increasing capital gains taxes to be higher than income taxes like they were originally intended to be is something people on both sides of the aisle have floated every election for decades, but then drop it and distract people over rainbows and umbilical cords instead until the populace tunes out. I’m solidly in the position that nothing meaningful like that will change until the voting systems itself changes. Don’t look to one of the two parties to fix anything- they’d all lose if they made real change.

No. Cause we don’t have unfettered capitalism currently. Might shift the window a little bit, but the means of production aren’t changing hands.

~Make this it's own thread if you want~ It's a tricky one. Usually 'conspiracy theories' as they are titled to undermine them from the get go, at the very least make the bad guy clear and apparent up front before the rest of the evil narrative is crafted. Typically events write themselves as you can guess who the bad guy is from the get-go. The WuhuFlu? Not so simple. Let's say it was man-made--who gains? Chinese get to stop political revolutions that have been festering across the Pacific, get to hide their recent bad press with the Uighers, and get a convenient alibi to clean-up all of their critics while they lock-down the state. Communist control only works as long as thoughts are controlled and they've been losing that war the last few years and need to rebound. They were losing Trumps trade wars pretty bad anyway and didn't want to admit it-- a self made problem the populace can revolve around can change this. Keep in mind, the last time a Chinese General talked about WW3, how the US is enemy#1, and how biological warfare is the future a month later SARS broke loose in the country. Was that an internal mistake? (If you've ever been to China for an extended period you'd realize that quality control cannot co-exist with their culture of appearances (aka lying) and this is simply Occam's razor at work) Trump/Republicans/Feds get to accelerate the intents of his trade wars (bring critical industry/bulk of manufacturing back home) and kill off a bunch of the boomers who are beginning to decimate the healthcare system as the pyramid scheme policies of the past (both at Federal level and majority of State/major city levels are aging to their reckoning. Remember the 'lock-box' for your social benefits? Government has figured out they can just ignore the deficit and solve it on their own as you don't hear about that anymore though it's gotten worse than its ever been. Short term socialism will outweigh long-term unrest. Tie all the 'it affects asians more than whites/smokers/etc.' rumors/unsubstantiated evidence into these motives. Democrats ('moderates')/Neocons/Globalists/'Deepstate' Feds get to tank the economy in the short-term, which was the thing they couldn't keep on pretending anymore it was just an extension of 'Obama's legacy' as they were setting up to fail massively in all branches of the government this Fall (and they were). They get to re-prove to society that governments are there to save you and giving them more control is the only way. Populist revolutions have been sparking across the globe (Trump, Brexit, France/Austria/etc., Hong Kong, Brazil) in defiance of globalist policies determined overtly or covertly by the elite and they need an end to it. Short-term end of trading/etc. doesn't matter as long as governments across the world get more encroaching powers to control the speech of the people, and those are powers people always give-up in times of panic. Was it truly a freak accident? Revenge of the Pangolins? At the very least, the rule that if the Chinese government quickly knows what a problem is, you can be sure that ISN'T it. They've proven it could not be 'bat soup'-- this particular virus does not share enough DNA for it to be of bat-origin (but now they're saying Pangolins...) Do you believe in magic? Do you believe the only Level 4 lab in China is 10 miles from the supposed 'market' the Chinese government quickly pointed to? Do you believe the US government arresting a Harvard professor for working with this lab/chinese university connected to this lab is coincidence? Do you believe these family of coronaviruses that were housed in the Canadian Level 4 labs had multiple lost samples and AWOL Chinese dual-citizens over the last few years is also pure coincidence? The US also caught Chinese military 'grad students' actively stealing virology research and trying to carry samples in their carry-ons a couple months ago.. Did the Chinese intend to make something, then screw up and release it internally? Again-- Occam's razor. But why was it-- China and Iran hit HARD first before it spread elsewhere? Isn't that just tooo..convenient for Trump's foreign policy? Yes.. the Iranians had a holiday where they all kissed the same monuments and they don't sanitize it like they do with the Blarney stone these days. Yes, urban Chinese people live in shoe-boxes. Yes, the Korean christians were spraying water into their constituents mouths (while shoved in their mouth) that accelerated their spread, and the entire country lives in one city anyway. Italians had a 'hug a Chinese person' campaign to combat racism surrounding the disease a week before it hit their country and their own culture of kissing for greeting put them down and out quickly. Any narrative maker could have a field day in many different directions. They are all plausible enough to be believable. It can be simultaneously for or against any one cause depending on your outlook.

Too many revolutions going on around the world. Need to show why full government control will save the human race. Never give up an opportunity to take advantage of a crisis.

Cause Camels are only in heat seasonally

Can we change the fake news headline so I don’t have to skim through all the crap to find out the title is actually false

He is my favorite Sabre next to Peca in all time.

Wonder if they’ll do an abridged playoffs with only two or three rounds? Wonder if the owners are going to strong arm and force the players to pay even more to cover all the lost revenues? Or how they’re going to manage next years cap— many of the owners are going to resist lowering the cap cause their own team will suffer in competitiveness. Also— draft and free agency being shifted is going to mess with a lot of things.

1). Generally speaking the article is very good 2). All the numbers out of China are pure BS. I’ve spent plenty of time in China, trust me, it’s pure BS 3). His death rate assumptions are silly. He believes all countries except the one who tests everyone. Logic favors SK. This drastically changes the death rate. 4). But most importantly what gets lost too many times in digressions- none of that undermines the rest of his arguments.

Here’s my soapbox: Every interpretation of data comes down to STATS. Just like half these message board conversations go. Yes, you should probably have the experience and a title to point out that the results from these tests should be thrown out because the test said positive, but the control sample was compromised blah blah blah blah. Just like a hockey player should distinguish between high and lower danger shots before getting all hissy about shooting percentages. But once that super technical bit is over, I promise you, vast majority of scientists absolutely suck at stats and logic. Embarrassingly so imho. WHO literally took the officially reported numbers from all nations and added them up. A 4th grader analysis. They are vested in the interest of never actually making a conclusion they can be perceived wrong on ever, and making the only assumption that the whole world is acting in good faith is the least controversial one they can always plead ignorance on. Oh, and they become relevant when pandemics happen, so they are going to be sure to blow everything up. The CDC? They are trying to hide that they messed up making the tests, and hide the numbers. Minimize the panic. They report to the president and keeping the markets in check so that businesses don’t shut down left and right is just as important as everything else right now. Keep in mind, nothing realistically is going to prevent the spread of this disease. Only the rate. China? Iran? The source of the majority of the data... is known for half a century to not be trustworthy with anything at all.

You don’t need to be a doctor to criticize metrics the WHO have been pumping out statistics of 3% death rates based upon all reported deaths and confirmed cases. Anyone with an ounce of awareness knows the reported number is severely under reported, and more so than the cause of deaths. You don’t have to be a doctor to know that the most representative data (ignoring genetic/cultural components) comes from the only country you can trust to have tested more than who they are nearly certain would have it- South Korea. Who only reported a 0.4% rate—- though the age break down made it clear above age 60, its 3-4%. Below age 60 so far every person had other big problems. Couple this with how fast it travels, yes, if we don’t flatten the curve it’s going to wreck havoc among the older population, and even then it still will— just hopefully enough hospital beds to handle it. Getting sick of this deference to the ‘experts’ bs. That’s just propaganda. I deal with this crap at work all day. Experts have their place, and they are better than Karen, but you don’t need a damn title to think logically.

Saying he plays like/reminds you of Briere and will perform like Briere are two different things.