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Does the team need him to be more than a cheap reliable bottom pairing defenseman?

Aren’t most of germanys elderly uhh dead from the Great War 2? Skewed population demographics. Really isn’t the time to be playing the comparison game and trying to make comparisons with simple metrics that are easily skewed.

It all comes down to Allen. The rest of the team is built pretty well and he has his #1WR. Could he use a more reliable TE? Sure. But it all comes down to Allen

Do we have any idea when Delaware North contract is up for renewal? I don’t put it past Jacobs to hang this over their head as he’s also the ‘big wig’ in the Owners circle.

You’re not wrong. But it’s a regressive proposal aimed at a key demographic.

His hockey reference statistics are wrong then ?. I’m glad to believe I always thought he was closer to 5’9”

Not being political If you can pay off your student loan, do it ASAP. The reality is, student loan forgiveness is a 3rd rail. I have hope one day they cut interest rates to a nominal inflation factor, but nobody is going to have current loan balances forgiven without public service similar to the forms that already exist. Maybe they go the extra mile and make college cheaper/free in the future (don't hold your breath, college is an industry). The Democrats are virtue signaling with it hard right now, but it's ironic because it's an extremely regressive bandaid that personally affects every single person significantly in one way or another (skipped college being prudent, paid off loans early being prudent, forgone college 'life' being prudent, guess what- you're a fool!) It just won't happen. Pay off that student loan in full if you can. The interest rates they charge are criminal.

He's 1" away from being a 'big guy'. I swear, people and height don't mix well. Though looking back, apparently Michael Peca was 5'11". I always thought he was small.

I thought Jeremy Jacobs also is the one who employs the FNC workers and would also be the guy not paying them. That evil contract was signed a long time ago wasn't it?

When will Botterill be fired, he killed my chickens and pooped on my lawn? This sentiment repeated ad nauseum isn't obnoxious? Kane was not a fit, played super low IQ hockey with a team built on a core of 'smart' players, repeatedly went AWOL, part of the locker room cultural problems. Kane was not going to re-sign here. And it's better he didn't. And we managed to get a 1st out of him when nobody thought this was possible. Vast majority of teams in the NHL only make 1-3 moves in the off-season. I haven't looked into the numbers (not sure where to easily find this), but I'm willing to bet we've had the highest roster turnover for three straight seasons. When I make statements about 'filler', all these 1-2 year UFA or cap dump deals is exactly what I'm referring to-- attempts to fix bad cap structural problems with the year 2021 in mind. Carter Hutton--- 2017 (with STL) GA%: 79 (good goalie that we signed, propped up by a good system, but Lehner supposedly was under Bylsma and never got below 89) 2018 GA%: 102 (average goalie-- which upgrades to 'good' for a back-up/1B) 2019: GA% 113 - eek. The same collapse Matt Murray did for Pittsburgh Cap hell has been disproven? We could have signed ridiculous contracts and been Toronto, which got worse after all those failed attempts. His first season he played the 'whatever UFA who won't demand 4+ year contracts' market and got us players who, well, didn't continue in the NHL. So he moved on to acquire cap-dumps instead to bring in that leadership. And all those contracts are done by this year's end. Why do you care about Frolik's cap hit?-- it was dead even with Scandella. Complaining about the lack of forward depth when we just came from a position of having no forward depth, no defensive depth, and no goalie depth just seems like the weakest argument one could make. He made a decision, and that was to build from the back-end out. Either you disagree with the approach, or you curse the UFA players themselves for not signing higher dollar offers to live in Buffalo--blaming Botterill when he didn't have the ammo to fix the whole team overnight is just... trite

So it's... been replaced. Just isn't better. He's focused on defense, which is better.. Which is my argument.

Can we stop pushing the lie that Botterill hasn’t replaced ROR’s offense? In GMTMs last season they scored 199 goals in 82 games. 60 games in this season they’re at 193. As our defensive zone turnarounds has improved, our standards have shifted. Good thing, but Rome also wasn’t built in a day. What’s the Rsq and p-value for xGF vs final team ranking?

I think it’s the money grab option. Avoiding the virus is near impossible and any implementation like this will be too slow to react. Given how close contact is high in many of those cultures and sanitation, etc is a step below- those entire countries not being overrun by now is proof that heat slows the transmission rate down drastically.

Name me another team that’s done better at acquiring players over the last few years. Nobody has come close in quantity/quality except Toronto— and hows that working for them? Lehner was an untreated alcoholic that had no possible future on this team. Murray spent a first round pick to get a goalie who refused to do shootouts and was so miserable in Buffalo he was left to tackle on the worst vices on his own until the new GM got him into rehab. You see that as Botterill’s fault? In what world was Buffalo ever going to re sign an enigma like Evander Kane? Even if we were winning he was gone. We gained by his subtraction. Eichel became a top player when Kane stopped ruining all zone possession. ROR being an ownership thing couldn’t be more obvious. Guess you get to live on the truth never coming out. Hutton was actually good last season. This seasons epic collapse is unprecedented. Also, find me a middling team who survives losing their starting goaltender? Teams riding hot goaltenders is the largest correlation with playoffs and playoff success (or coaching success). And all those goalies were the greatest thing since buttered bread until they suddenly weren’t. Recent examples: Quick, Crawford, Murray. No team is immune to sudden goalie overthink into stink collapse syndrome. I never mentioned Mittelstadt, but it’s not like the other draft picks shortly after him are anything better even at this point in time. I’m not sure what more Jokiharju has to do to prove it? Yeah he’s had a few bad games, but he’s also a teenager that has way overperformed all his peers at the same age. even Dahlin as far as the defensive side goes.

I remember when Carolina won the cup last year and the Wild won the cup a few years back Maybe posting models that don’t correlate strongly with playoff performance is bad statistical analysis.

Only team in the league doing a better job acquiring talent is Colorado Theyre also millennial main attraction living spot #1 which helps with signing UFA. They also traded with teams like Toronto— how well would a Risto for Kadri trade have gone with our fans? The only ‘try to acquire talent’ trades I’ve seen from Botterill are for: Thompson, Montour, Jokiharju, and Kahun. Everything else either fell into his lap or were quite simply filler moves to avoid long-term cap hell. Thompson lost an entire season after his AHL redemption arc. It’s really unfair to make any conclusion on him yet. Montour is good on his strong side. Replacement level when he plays his off hand. They gotta get him back on his strong side. Better than Guhle ever will he though. The Jokiharju trade is one of the most lopsided deals we’ve seen this decade. Woo Kahun is a gem. Everything Sheary was supposed to be, and we got him for Sheary. Taking on that cap from the Penguins for future considerations paid off. He’s a great piece for the future. Y’all can say ‘three years’, but this is the first season where I start to put the onus on Botterill for things- and we were looking much improved and the injuries really did a number on us.

You can't properly assess Botterill without giving him the proper frame of reference-- that GMTM had the team in shambles before taking over. Lucking their way to 78 points on special teams was them overperforming. A team that rode on special teams luck to 78 points (it's what, 50 points if they had average special teams performance?), that also had no prospects making the NHL, no depth, bad cap with multiple anchor contracts (Ennis, Moulson, Okposo, lol) that was benching star players for being late to meetings because of GM's decree, alcoholism running rampant, the worst fancy stats analytics has ever recorded, a losing minor league, etc etc Oh, and no trade/etc. was going to fix this situation the following season-- they could have mortgaged the future for another 10 points in the standings (being generous there, they were more likely to regress to average special teams). Cap freedom. A prospect system, and a good one at that. Depth. Ability to handle expansion draft despite stars not being ELC protected. Team that isn't running around their zone. That is underperformin after losing starting goalie, hslf of top-6, star player playing injured, etc. Oh, and with an off-season that the team will ONLY improve after, even if no moves are made. But sure, reduce everything to points and you're right-- it's barely better 3 years in. How many teams with President's trophies, the fancy reward for points, actually end up winning the cup? Hint: not many. Wouldn't die on that hill if I were you.

You always ignore that TM missed on every damn draft pick except a 7th round gamble. Let's not forget the 2nd rounders used on Fasching.. the third rounders used on Vesey (that didn't even get the player) or Dan Bylsma.... Then use Evander freaking Kane as positive evidence? San Jose is loving that stud piece.. You then list Ristolainen who was a tire-fire under Murray's coaches and tenure, largely because he was being relief upon as a #1 on a team with zero defensive depth because of the awful GM job, and two 2OA picks... You say I'm avoiding the response, but your case doesn't warrant one it's built on nothing but emotional hatred that has built up too much cognitive dissonance for you to think about the situation. Go compare any game over the last five years with the games this season. Defense is no longer a problem. We don't run around our own zone all game lost, scoring on random breakaways and stealing wins from special teams. They lost half their top-6 and starting goaltender and went from in-the-race to out of it, and had really bad goaltending from guys who were good last season at the start of the season put them behind. Now we run around the offensive zone (and don't quite have the talent to score consistently, though I agree to anyone who says our players are allergic to the front of the net) and the softies the third-string goalies are letting in kill the games. The games are actually entertaining now despite the results. I don't fall asleep in the middle of them anymore. But here we come to the message board where people can't blame the players for what they do on the ice and have to blame the guy 'at the top' with some of the simplest minded thought process possible. Then try to compare the GM trades a guy who had like 5 excess 1st round picks to acquire with a guy who had no firsts, his seconds spent, zero depth in the pipeline, and a travesty of a roster to begin with?

I thought straws were banned in your crazy locale. Why you grasping for some?

We don’t want facts. We want to be mad!

Murray overspent to collect prospect busts and head case players who all found their way outside of town in a few years. Left absolutely nothing in the prospect pool but Guhle. Now we have a foundation for a team. Missing pieces, but the foundation is there. Not walking on stilts to stay relevant anymore.

Uhhh. Wrong buddy.

Garbage in garbage out. Just like hockey statistics, stop getting all antsy about incomplete, severely flawed datasets. It’s telling how the entire media is doing everything they can to silence hydroxychloroquine hopes. Data is incomplete, but it’s hilarious how quickly the same people will throw out the initial trial datasets while simultaneously crying about the sky is falling due to Infection/mortality rates.

Calling it the China virus ain’t a lie tho

For people whose politics is really just emotional confirmation—- they can’t separate it.