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When did I say dump Sam? I’m just pointing out that your precious is held to a higher standard because the e tire fan base and org suffered for a year just for him. yet it’s the next years draft pick that sells jerseys

Reinhart gets the clack because we tanked an entire decade to pick 2OA and select him. Big shoes, and we had to tank yet another season just to help us forget how much of a let down Reinhart was.

Two youths in a second pairing being sheltered from top minutes but both projecting to top pairing or generational. Two good third pairing guys. Montour and Risto at the top in the mean time. Plus tons of top talent depth. Yes that’s solid. Meaning, it doesn’t need work and it’s problems are set to resolve themselves. Risto has transformed under Krueger. Gone are his lazy days. Miller has been the dunce lately if anyone. Did you even watch the tank years? I can understand them being blocked from memory

Murray’s goalies, defense, and minor league tho Botterill has gotten more with less. Paying a fortune to get a UFA to be early and signing him to a contract you could have just gotten a month later without spending assets was his peak...

Rofl, ask this board five years ago what’s important and top pairing defenseman were the answer. You’re grasping at straws. Ullmark is fine, he literally got injured. Not many teams survive losing starting goaltenders. Hutton stole us games last year, hindsight is pretty hilarious when used like in the quote. His collapse has been epic, but it’s not like we don’t have 6K in the ranks. We have the elusive franchise 1C. Blame Murray for missing on Reinhart being number two. We have no problem with bottom six centers. Again, blowing the situation out of proportion. Mittelstadt and Cozens are in the ranks for center and just like 99% of NHL prospects, need a few years before you can even expect them to contribute.

botterills focus has always been depth first, NHL roster second. And he chose to bolster defense first, which again is a strategy most everybody agrees is the right order. And with at least strength in one area (defense) the team can build an identity. Fans are just impatient and blaming the wrong guy. Our lack of draft picks filling in holes is Murray’s problem still. Only beginning next year can you begin to blame Botterill if they’re not working out.

I think it’s a great example of what cap hell is and why you can’t just instantly fix your team in the next draft and UFA like you can in football. Go back the last three years and find me one UFA signing that makes a big difference in the results the last two years. And don’t say Donskoi he was offered more money and turned it down

NFL draft picks are immediate players and roster turnover year to year is easy Good NHL teams barely turn over 4 players per season. Botterill has been turning over >12 players per season, and even then, that wasn’t enough to keep rookies out of the roster.

‘But counting stats say he plays just as good when the team is in the hunt vs once they’re out’ Cant wait for his end of season goal rally

No superstar is ever trapped. Who did Lindros play for again?

Beane shed all bad contracts in one year and only had to pay for it one year. Botterill has none of those options and still managed to clear a ton of cap for the fourth season. The cap puts rebuilds from bad contract situations and cancerous locker rooms (yes we had one, remember Reinhart sitting on the bench for an entire game lololol? Party boys left and right). Both GMs inherited absolute messes. Both have done a great job shedding ‘top talent with attitude’ that may or may have not succeeded elsewhere, but have transformed their own locker room into believers in the process. Oh, we also have a billionaire owner who isn’t shrewd. Remember when we had an internal cap, back when the cap was half of what it is now? The contract structuring that made UFA for Buffalo even a consideration? Before you digress, the ROR bonus was a personal thing.

Wrong

Accounts from his neighbors when he played in Buffalo

Would you say they have the BEST construction crew in the entire world?

Is there a salary cap there?

Satan was a creeper. Now he’s GM material? Never see miss Pegula hiring him

Remember when we spent years crying: we need a too4 defenseman but nobody ever trades one! Risto is playing too many minutes he needs to be a second pairing guy! Now we have arguably 4-5 top 4 guys. McCabe is a solid third pairing now. Montour is forced playing offhand because of the depth. And we have Pilut, Borgen, two first rounders and some other wild cards like Laaksonen in the system. When we lose a defenseman in the expansion draft (and we will), we already have a replacement in order. I believe Ristolainen is gone before next season, and we won’t miss a beat paying that UFA contract he will want. It’s very true. And Joki and Dahlin are still kids and the sky is the limit for both of them still. Have tour gripes and pretend Rome can be built in 2 years all you want, but our defensive depth is now SOLID. Great way to build from the back out, the way it always should have been.

Where’s the ‘it’s all a part of the internal plan he’s going nowhere’ option? Biased poll

They looked extremely tired after the last two games where they had hop, but no luck. They had luck today though, but their poor play still blew it. Y’all aiming for the top, but our assistant coaches need major turnover. We still have Steve Smith from Housley and that’s a problem. Our special teams suck hard. Get us a special teams coach. Jack is obviously too hurt to play right now. He’s playing like total ass out there.

Murray’s last season was supposed to be IT. He spent all the marbles and mortgaged the future and they played worse than Jason’s season 3 team did, even with ROR blessed be thy name. Botterills IT season is next season. This offseason cap finally sheds most of the Murray blunders, his own draft picks playing, etc. Jason steppes into a mess and has cleaned up well.

Bad goalie, injured superstar, and lack of at least one more real top 6 talent do go a long way example: St Louis

They’re playing noticeably worse than the last two games. But they’re up two. Sometimes it comes down to bounces

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson Oloffson-Soderberg/Granlund/Trade -Reinhart Kahun-Mittelstadt-Anderson Girgensons-Lazar-Okposo (GLOv2) Larsson moves on for crazy money. Girgensons stay on discounts. Trade made for Josh Anderson (Cozens stays down). A 2C is acquired or Jason doesn’t make it to opening night. Hot take: Thompson is ready for too minutes and Oloffson’s honeymoon is over after he falls apart down the stretch this year.

Defensive depth that makes the Amerks play defense at forward. Cap freedom starting next season A handful of forward prospects that aren’t total busts

Three players with serious drinking problems that didn’t get fixed until they left Buffalo and the wonderful culture they had developed Two 2OA gimmes (well Reinhart was a BIG miss relatively speaking) and one 7th rounder. THAT was the source of today’s woes.