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Hughes, Kakko and Podkolzin and those guys plus Byram seem like a solid top eight.

Jack won a lot, 3 more Majors than Tiger, but his top end peers won more than Tiger's high end competition. Tiger's competition was deeper and more widespread with fewer HOF guys. I view them as 1A and 1B, giving the slight edge to Jack and his 18 Majors.

Hockey parallels are Jack Nicklaus and Gordie Howe., excellence over a long period of time. Tiger Woods and Bobby Orr, unmatched dominance cut short by injuries. Both are in the conversation for GOAT. Gretzky dominated his peers like Tiger and stayed at a high level for a long time so they share those traits. I'm in Jack's camp strictly because he has 3 more Majors than Tiger. As I said earlier, Tiger grew up with that number (18) on his wall and his mind.

Jack and Tiger will never go head to head in their primes, just like all of the all time greats in all the other sports. Jack's competition, with majors won were: Gary Player 9, Tom Watson 8, Arnold Palmer 7, Lee Trevino 6, Seve Ballasteros 5, Ray Floyd 4. The only ones with 4 or more in Tiger's era are Phil Mickelson 5, Ernie Els 4, Rory McIlroy 4. Tiger's peak was 1999-2008. He won 13/38 Majors, finished 2nd in 5 more. Top ten in 25/38 and only 1 cut. Jack's peak was 1971-1980 where he won 9/40 Majors, finished 2nd in 9 more. Top ten in 35/40 and only 1 cut. Jack had a 21 year period from 1962-1982 where he won 17/84 and finished 2nd in 17 more. He was top 10 in 63/84 Majors with 4 cuts. Tiger was hotter for a shorter period while Jack had longevity. Tiger had Jack's record of 18 Majors on his bedroom wall as a benchmark growing up and he is still 3 short of that. He is obviously not done, but it is a fair debate about the GOAT.

Didn’t learn very much new information. However, the amount of key people at Winterfell is amazing, things are ramping up.

I’ve been into golf for a long time and I’ve never liked him. I am in awe of what he has accomplished, but he has never found a way to make me a fan. There just seems to be nothing warm about him towards fans and other humans in general. I am a Jack Nicklaus guy and Tiger is still chasing his record. Tiger had a 8-10 year run that was awesome but Jack contended in many majors for more than 20 years.

Nice, great confidence builder. They know he can go in if needed.

Still 3 majors behind Jack.

Good luck UPL!

I think he's got to be on the big club next year. He finds a way to contribute.

I think he is just an adviser at this time, probably going to get an official job once they get to the expansion draft. He may be itching to get back in the saddle now, if the right deal is offered.

I see how coaching can make a difference when Barry Trotz walks into the Islanders room and transforms that team.

Maybe Jon Cooper shakes loose after Tampa's meltdown in the first two games. LOL.

Dave Tippett.

The Sabres need to look at his injuries. I like this guy a lot, but hopefully he's not made of glass. The combine may reveal some issues as well.

UPL is done with Junior hockey, I think the next logical step is pro. It would be good for him to get to know the Amerks system and be around that atmosphere ASAP.

My vote is to keep the pick and stick to the plan. I think JBot is better at the draft table than our previous 2 GMs so I give him a few years to compile some talent. I also would like to win now but I don't feel that Jack is in his prime yet, so we have a lot more good years from him. Yzerman didn't win his first Cup until he was 32.

Turcotte is listed as one inch shorter but 26 pounds heavier than Zegras. Caufield is the puny one, 5'7".

Thanks for the info. Agree on the skating aspect of the summary. I meant that the scout compares him to ROR. My bad.

Compare his game to ROR.

Would have a connection with Sam via Kootenay Ice.

Alfie's father started it.

Leafs assistant coach.

I kind of hope he makes it to 7 although I like Turcotte more.

Those are my two guys as well.