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Assault weapon = the definition from the 1993 ban.

For those two specific options, I’d sign Forsberg. But, 1. That assumes he signs and 2. That also assumes that the entire discussion is limited to those two specific scenarios. Generally speaking, we are at a point in team building where there should be no reason to fear trading for a guy on a 2yr deal.

There is no reason to be afraid of guys with 2yrs remaining on their deals. If this team has truly turned a corner that is ample time to convince a guy to stay for another extension.

Also Watched clips. Didn’t click with me.

I’ve been watching clips on youtube trying to like it. I don’t get it.

#thingsthatonlyhappentoinkman

When has that ever stopped anyone?

I don’t even like them for law enforcement. Policing has different goals and problems than military. Police and military shouldn’t be using the same tactics, and don’t need the same tools. I’ll grudgingly accept police need them until they are completely out of civilian hands.

Ahh my memory was off. It was the Columbine shooting that took place just before the NRA convention, not Sandy Hook. ***** ridiculous that there are enough school shootings that I can’t keep them straight.

Ok, I am referring to sunsetting ownership of assault rifles. You appear to be talking about something else, maybe a more general gun ownership? If so, yes mandatory recorded transfer, background check, secure storage for general gun ownership. You can have Grampas gun. Re: the NRA, I came to that conclusion around 2000 and stopped giving them my money. The NRA of my youth taught marksmanship, worked with the NSSF, promoted and developed safety instruction programs. Today they just yell “they are coming for your guns”. The problem is, they’ve been yelling that since at least 1985 when I joined. Nearly 40 years of yelling “they are coming for your guns” and noone yet has come for your guns. And they still have millions of members. 🤦‍♂️

It’s such a bad look to even consider having that convention. IIRC they had a convention scheduled shortly after Sandy Hook and they recognized the optics of it and postponed the convention. Now, it’s so in-your-face that they likely consider it a sign of weakness to cancel. When Sandy Hook happened I was in 2 shooting leagues. One of the leagues shot the day after the Sandy Hook shooting. I felt just…… wrong…. getting out of my car with 2 gun cases to shoot in a local club match the day after all those kids were killed. The conversation inside was all about how they can’t let this destroy our rights. I lasted 2 more weeks and quit both leagues. I don’t know how anyone could go to that convention and sleep at night.

The idea is to sunset these things. It defeats the purpose.

I am open to continued ownership of assault rifles under a system similar to how NFA firearms are handled. The idea being that it is going to cost alot of money and be a genuine inconvenience to own these firearms. The maze that needs to be navigated will be sufficient to control access.

I think laws regarding storage for control of access is a must, with penalties for failure to control equivalent to accessory to murder. Yes junior, that means if you wanna own a gun you also need to own and use a safe. I think we need to mandate ALL transactions, even between family members, need to go through a licensed dealer and an FBI check performed. I think we need to eliminate the sale and transfer of magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds. I think the 1993 assault weapons ban needs to be re-implemented grandfathering in current privately owned firearms and owners. As the current owners sunset, so does ownership of these weapons. I think GOP needs to allow a director of the ATF to be appointed. I think the ATF needs to create a firearm ownership transfer database that manufactures, distributors, wholesalers, dealers MUST use when processing transactions. This is so the ownership chain of a firearm used in a crime can be readily established. It would also pinpoint where in the chain guns leak out into the black market. (I am not aware of this being required currently. It was not evident to me that firearm info was entered into a database the last time I bought a firearm last year) And I think the ATF should have a robust and properly funded audit team ensuring that database compliance is 100%.

Covid. Wife and I both. Sucks. Yesterday I coughed so hard I gave myself a hernia, so I’ve got that going for me. Makes up for losing the holiday weekend to illness.

Bump stock. Work around for the same effect. Ok. Next one. THIS is rhetorical. You get my point. They are rare because access is severely restricted.

Yeah, its an effective tool. For sure. All but a couple of those cases would arguably have ended the same with a legally owned handgun or shotgun. it really comes down to a basic tenement of safety. If you have a piece of equipment that overwhelmingly is used in a dangerous or unsafe way, you control access to that piece of equipment.

You were treading on fiction. it was rhetoric worthy. The idea that an arms race among decent people is a worthwhile outcome is, well..... not worthwhile. And just curious, when was the last time you saw a news item about a fully automatic weapon used in a crime? That's exactly where we need to get to with the assault rifle debate.

Your scenario has never played out. There has not been any good guy with an assault rifle saves world from bad guy with an assault rifle incidents.

They will have their access greatly diminished over time. None of this will change quickly. And none of this swill be perfect. We don't need perfect. We need better than what it is now.

Of ocurse it needs to be multuipronged, but it needs to start with denied access. There is no way around it. Access is the root cause. Access needs to be the primary change.

And look what has happened in the years since the ban sunsetted in 04. We likely would have, at worst, maintained the trend that was flat in 04. Instead we are 2x to 3x the mass shootings since the ban sunsetted.

And that’s basically it. You draw a line in the sand today. Tomorrow nothing changes. But after tomorrow, slowly but surely the number of assault weapons decrease, and so do the opportunities for ***** bags to get access. In a generation the number of these weapons are half as ownership sunsets naturally. In 2 generations its over. Had we continued the assault weapon ban that sunsetted in 2004 we’d be halfway there already.

Heh. I remember when the argument here for tanking was, would you rather try to build around Marner or Barzal? Man did that suck.

I’ve used Marketplace multiple times. Never let a stranger into your house. Do the deal outside. My experiences have all been reasonably good