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The NHL i so screwy in regards to protecting players

I hope this doesn't cause the NHL to do a kneejerk reaction and try to ban anything resembling toughness. You know like banning fights, or some sort of crazy modification to the hitting game.

So, so sad, I certainly hope he didn't take his own life because I would have hoped he'd gone to a former team and asked for a job or something. Far too young to go. RIP Steve

Moulson-McEichel-Kane Ennis-Reinhart-UFA (Jagr/Williams come to mind as savvy vets)(Or Girgs with Grigs as the 3rd line Center) Foligno-Girgensons-Gionta Delauries-McCormick-Kaleta Extras: Larsson-Flynn Risto-Bogosian Zadorov-Gorges UFA-Pysyk (Ehrhoff/Methot/Green maybe?) (I want either a savvy strong vet, a PP QB, or a combination of those 2) (After all, McEichel and/or Reinhart may QB the PP) 7th D Weber Niemi (probably the best goalie available) Enroth/Neuvirth varying on if they find starting jobs. If neither wish to play 18-30 games as a backup we grab another goalie or promote an AHLer

Common ground in regards to player selection, both like big gritty players who play hard. Granted most GMs and Coaches like that

If I have to guess, I think Nolan will be promoted to some role in player management and a cushy office where he heads the Player Moral Division of the Sabres. To me Nolan and Murray have enough common ground that I'd think Murray would want to keep him around for both the players, and another person to get opinions from. Mainly however, I think they will give him a new job to eliminate the problems that might arise if Nolan were fired/ bought out. Think of what they did with Kevyn Adams. Since I doubt Nolan gets a job elsewhere, he could work with the Sabres part time and when he needs to go work on Latvian stuff, he can. Plus in this case we have the chance to hold onto any of the assistants we want and the players stay happy

I grade this trade as of now as a C, way to many assets lost for too little.

I'm just sad, I understand we had to give up stuff, but we certainly gave way to much

They just gave way to much for too much risk...

Terrible trade, my love of GMTM just went down a bit

Burmistrov?

Take out the 1st and Lemieux

Please God no, I like Lemieux and that's way to much for too little

I'll do... Tyler Myers Drew Stafford BUF 2nd rounder For Evander kane Zach bogosian 1st rounder

That seems really steep in cost, no thx

I honestly think that it's pretty sad that some of you have already decided to throw Zadorov to the wolves. Myers takes a lot of flak from the board mainly due to his soft play while being so big physically. That doesn't mean however that Myers is a complete bust all it means is that his likelihood of becoming Chara at least in terms of style is very unlikely. Zadorov strikes me as very similar to a Chris Pronger type of player. What we have to stop doing is wanting players to literally become other players while wishing a player become similar is legitimate to expect anyone to perfectly match up to Hall of Famers is absurd. That being said I would love Myers to play with a mean streak but even if he doesn't, working harder in the corners and on the puck coupled with his speed and skating ability in general makes him just as valuable in a sense. After all Chara is like an elephant on the ice not very graceful. Myers will play like Myers and Zadorov will play like Zadorov.

I hope to God we don't give them Myers + for Kane, I'll likely have a stroke caused by my pent up anger. I'll take Bogosian and Kane + a 3rd for Myers + a 2nd

Zadorov technically should be in the AHL, but since that wasn't possible he was a better off in the NHL than the OHL/KHL. Might he play some games in Rochester, maybe, but it would be short and likely more for rehab or the like.

I'd say Carrier is more a decent level prospect

Armia is better than a decent prospect. He's a high end prospect, If they want Armia they get a 2nd, if you give them a decent (slightly above average) prospect you can give them a 1st.

I feel the Jets GM is overvaluing Kane ever so slightly. He seems to be expecting about 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in return for him. The offer being jostled around is Stafford/Stewart, Armia/Grigs, and the NYI/StL 1st for Evander Kane Stafford and Stewart are very similar in value varying from a low 1st (oddities do happen ex: Gaustad) to at minimum a 3rd & 5th rounder. Armia and Grigs are both still worth 1st round picks due to their age and potential, along with their advancement in the prospect hierarchy. The two other 1sts are obviously worth a 1st a piece however both have the possibility of being as high as the 15th pick even with both of them making the playoffs. In this heavily skilled draft, a 15th to 20th overall would include what last year was likely in the 5th-10th area. We got Zadorov around there. v.s. Kane is a very good player with the potential to be great, even elite in his style of play however his stats barely outdo Tyler Ennis whose been on easily as bad or worse teams. Kane on average misses 1 month of each season Has 1 30 goal season and was on pace for 30 in the lockout year aside from that hasn't hit 20 since This doesn't even mention his off ice baggage he carries with him At best I feel he's worth about 1 1st round and 2 2nd rounders thus my highest offer would be Stafford/Stewart, Armia/Grigs, and the NYI 2nd if possible or else the BUF 2nd for Evander Kane A 1-3 round pick in conversion, a 1st, and 2nd. If the going rate for Stew or Staff is a 2nd, you give them BUF's 2nd because its practically locked in around 31 to 33 already. If you can trade either for a 1st, give them the NYI 2nd. Thus in essence you are swapping present and future 1st/2nd line wingers Stafford/Armia for example for the Jets present and future winger in Kane while adding a 2nd in good faith in order to hedge Armia's chances of doing well along with Stafford's decision to resign or not.

I want Gibson, and if traded, want Myers out of the conference just in case he does become Chara-like regardless of the likelyhood

I certainly hope not, that's senile.

Light up Halak please Buffalo, we can get back to panzering next game. Plus Stewart is boosting his value rapidly. Let's Go Buffalo!!!

I wouldn't trade Ennis for Kane solely based on Kane's baggage.