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Agreed, it had a broken rudder long before this incantation. This neither helps nor hurts. So trying to find the value for Miller, Darcy has been saying for a long time. Guess he hasn't found the value he wants because I think by now he has found Miller's value and he ain't getting what he wants. I like the idea of submitting fire Darcy now as an idea. We all should do that.

I am hoping the Sabres can trade both Miller and Vanek for high draft picks and or young talent, preferably a center.

And Miller's Townhouse just sold... hmm

True in many respect, but those two could score, play together or on separate lines and they had magic at end of the game with it on the line. A young Roy was the third center and they had guys like Sanderson and Plante who could flat out fly and score. Toughness was an issue but hustle wasn't. The Sabres now have some toughness especially on D... much improved. But potentially losing Vanek and a dirth of scoring... Stafford is still here, why that head case is still around, just can't figure. The near future is going to be tough to digest. My only really hope is that again they finish dead last and get the number 1 pick, though I doubt it. Gonna be a long season.

I am one of those horse skeleton beaters, mostly because Darcy drafts well for everything but a center. Just can't figure it out and it drives me nuts. He barely can get good one's in free agency and non since Drury and Briere... consider horse skeleton beaten again. But until I see a number 1 center, I have to consider Darcy's efforts a failure, not so much for this year but for the numbers of years the issue has not been addressed properly. Oooh Oooh, in my best horshak voice: Skeleton beating again...

Problem is Sabres are hanging their hats on lets call it a "Wish Sandwich" "There could be some meat coming, but I only see two pieces of bread right now...."

Valid points, he played OHL for 4 years, then part of a season in AHL before being called up. Still concerned about Grigs because he basically is the only close to top flight guy in the center position the Sabres have and he appears to have issues. Would feel a lot better if the Sabres had additional options. Problem is they don't and Darcy hasn't gone to get one via trade or draft for quite a while now.

With 1 glaring hole a top flight center... Been saying it now since Briere and Drury left.

Really, that is your defense of Grigs... Grigs hasn't and Spezza did right away from what I remember... So that is even more damning of Grigs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Spezza 21 points in his first NHL season playing 33 games.

Nice job Numark. Looking at the list, Sabres have a lot of centers projected to be 3rd shift guys... Yet Darcy didn't think to draft a first line guy. Hopefully Locke or one of the 2nd round centers surprises us. ? So the Sabres are going live with a bunch of 3rd line centers for the next 5 years. That will work... not..

Really Chz, I heard it a lot that was the concern. He often appeared not listen, played the language barrier off as his excuse, he did his own thing and checked out at times especially on the effort side of things. Some people chalked it up to diagnosis of Mono, but I heard rumbling it could just be an excuse for other problems, though I was hoping the rumors were wrong and it was just the illness. He shows flashes of brilliance last season, but too often looked lost and floated like Stafford. Maybe it is a confidence thing with him and he will work out. Problem is the Sabres needed a guy that hit the ground running on the effort side of things. Darcy, once again making an excuse saying they got two centers last year to not go up an get one the talented top 6 this year imo is a big mistake. High 5 Robviously for the above quotes!

Couldn't agree more, and that is why I am so neg... frustrated. I don't see a team worth watching next year.... not even remotely interesting because there is not enough talent on the top front lines... no are we going to see it much of it next year:( I was hoping we could at leat watch something developing on the ice and the front lines next year with actual skill and hustle, but until I see a Zetterberg or Datsyuk coming out the early to middle rounds from this draft... I think I will just be sad. I wasn't expecting a great team next year, but a least a group of young guns in the middle that showed some Moxie. I guess I am most disappointed by the Luke Adam and Grigerenko... both have mad skills, but it doesn't look like either have heart, especially Adam. I hope I am worng about Grigerenko. Last year's effort did not bode well though... no viruses to give an excuse for his effort.

Get the level where they pick a top line center. Don't have one yet unless Grig does a miracolous turn around on the effort side of things. Everything we were concerned about and why he dropped to us last year is showing up. Boy needs to get some gitty up in his hustle... Till then, I will continue to gripe that the Sabres have missed their target again. Once again show me. Still a concept. Yes he has skills, but the compete is not there. I don't see what you are seeing.

Another year, another year without drafting a top end center. Not sure the Sabres could have gotten one give their position, but there goes another year without one. oh well.... Not saying what they drafted was bad, I like the top two defensemen, Still another year without a top centerman... sigh.... They just had to go on that late season run :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Show me... Not bad on the two big D, but the Sabres needed skill with nasty up front in the center position and for all the draft talk, the Sabres left empty handed once again. Love the two D guys, but without the high end C in the middle gotta think this draft is a failure and if I am Miller and Vanek, I ask to be bought out. Can either hold out for part of the season? Playing on this team would be detrimental to their well being of signing a new contract?

I am okay, wanted Dauphin

D sucked because we had no centers who could get back and help out. Trade out there after this pick??? Not Darcy though.

Wow 2 D,,,, No one will score on the Sabres.... But no offence.... Jeez.

Do they still do 2nd round today as well?

Bit of a run on D lately... interesting.

Wennberg gone to Columbus

P.S. NBC sports just put on draft live after pick 10...

More centers gone.... oh well. so who do the Sabres take at 16... Lodge or Dauphin?

Ray just tweeted his new hot dog stand is open in Springville

Bettman is such a peener.... upon being booed... "I think you're going to want to listen" The guy just doesn't help himself... a little self deprecating humor would do him some good. He sounds like the old librarian shhhhshing the crowd.