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My frustration with Murray is two fold. 1. I didn't like the way LaFontaine was handled... my grudge. Some of you think that it goes with the territory and LaFontaine misjudged the situation and walked away in a huff... fine and probably true to an extent but only because Murray doesn't appear to play well with others either unless you are his lap dog. 2. I think the way he handled Lemieux and now the Nolan situation is indicative of the kind of style he puts forward as a GM. His Uncle, while in DC was very much that way, couldn't handle the press, and got really prickly when confronted with questions about his mistakes. He didn't take any blame for his actions. Then bailing on his mistake about Lemieux, despite what he said, and shipping him off to Winnipeg. Finally, if you are going to lie, make it plausible or just don't say anything. Smile and pull a Marshawn Lynch.... Everyone says is a great judge of talent... Mess and Balls worked out great! (Sarcasm) Got us 30th, which is good in my book... but bad according to Murray, so which is it. Just saying, Murray leaves a lot to be desired from a good GM standpoint and from a talent evaluator. I don't want the Sabres to jump from one moron Darcy into another... Go Sabres...

Yeh I am, that doesn't take away from the fact the Kane deal was after the fact and Lemieux was a miscalculation. Remains to be seen if Kane is. Like the potential, but the attitude again gives me pause and is Murray just creating another problem despite getting rid of one of his own making.

No I am pretty sure he was pissed right from the get go about thinking he was a number one and expected to be treated as such.

That is what it sounded like the moment he was drafted and why if Buffalo was not prepared to meet his demands... why draft him... a definite miscalculation causing some to question Murray's ability.

Oh then you shouldn't be posting... seriously many fans have an understanding of Buffalo luck and would rather expect the worst and hope for the best. I think you misread fans angst versus what they hoped the Sabres would do.

True, but you had to know with an agent Dad former pain in the back side, that Lemieux had potential to be a problem and the Sabres couldn't afford to miss on him with all their needs. If none of the others they drafted come through, I would say Murray's first attempt is a failure... not a good sign. ???What do you think is an appropriate development time from after the draft to playing in the NHL a 2nd rounder should be given? 2, 3 or 4 years? I say no more than 4. But 2 years should give you a very good indication for a forward, 3 years said forward should be competing for a position. D is another story, they can take longer but not much. The clock is ticking for Murray on the guys he drafted last year, so far nothing no indication.

Too poor at this point but more just poking the bear.

Really, isn't that the job of a GM... heck the NFL has so many psychologists evaluating these guys and their lives, they have a sense if they can make it happen and what will work. TPegs needs to make sure Murray does the same...

But why do I get the sense that since Lemieux wouldn't sign entry level Murray shipped him out at first chance. If Murray thought he might be a problem before the draft in that regard then why draft him... if he didn't think it would be a problem then that is on him and scouts for not doing their due dilligence and I again question his drafting ability. Granted this is his first time doing things, but unless he brings in an experienced coach that he can work with and not a yes man...ball @#$%$er, then I think TPegs should let him go. Sabres need to find guys in this draft past the first pick. Shipping off a 1st and Armia and Lemieux for Kane who has issues himself without a coach that can handle that scenario as well as Murray is a tall order and brings into question is Murray a train wreck. The next coach will give a big indication and if he screws this up, TPegs needs to fire him on the spot.

When TM crashes and burns for picking a coach that can licks his cahoonas but not coach and Gorges turns on this guy too Nolan will be back, or he fires one for disagreeing with him because the guy can actually coach and TM doesn't know what he is doing, LaFontaine and Nolan will be back.

Bull hockey, but that part I don't mind and the fact that TN he doesn't think is the right guy for the job is ok too, but why hold on to him for a year... You and other TM true believers can't have it both ways... I think he wasn't ready to deal the TN year 1, didn't have the balls to face the fans quite yet and instead of saying TN wasn't his guy, he tried to lay blame on TN despite ripping the team apart and giving TN players that couldn't find a net if you gave them both and N and T. Not saying he didn't make some good moves too, luv Bogo, hated Staphyl, was sad to see Myers go... Very concerned about Kane, somehow that will be a cluster. None of TMs later pics last year seem to be panning out... Lemieux was a cluster that forced a trade... should have known that going in. Very mixed bag so far for such a control freak... He needs to do a lot better in this draft with more than just the top pick which is a gimme and really needs two of last year's pics to come through. At least Darcy could draft D.... Can Murray draft centers and forwards and can the Sabres develop some? These second rounders need to be worth something talent wise and so far its looking very iffy.

Welcome, but be prepared lots of wine here.... Ps dont mind tear down as a result of Darcy, just need results and just saying warning signs abound that we may be witnessing an oncoming train... i too listened to RJ with radio under pillow.

Interesting listing and compilations of the different groups and folks ratings of top 30 talent in this years draft... Especially toward end of first round lots of variables...http://www.mynhldraft.com/2015-draft/prospect-rankings/

Disagree, Murray hasn't shown enough both as a manager and a judge of talent to justify your claims. In fact his handling of Nolan gives me great pause. Kane is a big risk, will any of last year's picks come thru... So far who knows... If he doesn't hit a homerun with this coach....plans be damned, anyone can have a plan... execute it in a vacuum and watch it fail.

Ok get something for cody if you can... I think Grig sticks, he showed me something toward the end here and i think he just mite be a late bloomer.

Ennis imo needs to be on wing imo bump Girgenson up to the first line to start till Reinhart or McEichel prove themselves ready. Drop frolik down one and dump Hogson, maybe even put Larson up at 1st line to start season. Bet OReilly isnt here next year... Just dont think he fits the system and too expensive for his actual worth. Also Batiste is gonna push guys like Kaleta and Gionta. stewart resigns in Minni.

I agree Nolan had problems coaching developing players so letting him go is not a surprise, but it will interesting to see the alternative. Bringing in an unproven coach that is a Murray yes man should get Murray fired on the spot.

pulease... Not even passing the shart test. Being straight forward can often be confused with icehole... A good GM knows how to be firm without being perceived as one... That being said the proof will come moving forward, but Murray has some growing up do himself... Again this is Buffalo, not Philly or NJ.

Danielle Paille will be FA just announced by Baston... Worth a look?

True that would be great..

Exactly.... There is saving face and bold faced disingeniousness. Bill Clinton saying I did not have sex with that woman is bold faced... So is TM's comment about finishing last and blaming TN. So leave it at "finishing 30th wasn't a goal"..don't add the second clause.... Dude needs a better P.R. person that he will listen to and follow directions from. If not this kind of thing is gonna keep happening.

PA you are clairvoyant! We will see, his Uncle sucked while he was at Washington in the 90s and he was always considered a bit of a Bastag.... Don't like his style nor his Uncle's back then.

Really! I want the Sabres to be a standup organization and win the cup... This isn't Boston to quote Sam Wyche... this is Buffalo... I don't think Murray ever gave him a shot or there would have been more communication... it was a PR stunt to have someone to blame for winning the Shart. Nolan can be criticized for young player development, but I think even there he was making strides.... mind you not one of his strengths. But you can't tell me Murray didn't expect this from the beginning. I am really concerned that we have an fargin icehole running this team that may or may not have the talent to recruit players and retain a good coach. Appearances as well as performance are important... as someone said TM reminds of something that rhymes with easel... but looks more like and angry woodchuck, a pissed off shortsighted little critter often seen dead along side the road because of that.

Im a little upset but agree nonetheless, my concern now is for this GM and any other coach that comes in.

Just say I think we need to go in another direction with this young team and it implies enough abt TNolan without being a douche.